Egyptian National and Strategic Development Projects: News and Updates

[Gomig-21]

Egypt lack fertile lands for the incoming population growth...

If you look at the fertile land expansion in just the past 40 years, it's approximately 30% greater from what it was. Look at the Nile Delta and how it's ballooning not only east to west, but mostly north. Farmlands have reached the Mediterranean sea from expanding the fertile soil of the Nile shores.

There is also a huge expansion of irrigation fields. This is not even including the desertification of farms where they dig for wells, find sustainable underground water sources then bring in fertile soil and grow farms in the desert. This has actually been happening since the early 1980's. We were actually involved in this. When it started happening, people were buying desert lands from the government and within 6 months to a year, they were growing melons, lettuce, cabbage, oranges, tomatoes, cucumbers it was moving at a pace similar to real estate to the point where the government had to issue limits on purchasing land. The potential to farm desert land is huge in Egypt and will grow rapidly just in the next decade.

Here's a small example which illustrates this desertification process.

This fertile land will keep expanding from the shores of the Nile. If you look at the width of much of these immediate lands all the way down the Nile, it has tripled in width just in the past 50 years and will only grow.

Farming and fertile land really is not the problem in Egypt, as a matter of fact, produce is largely exported than domestically consumed.

Over 88% of the oranges and manderins that grow out of this farm are exported.

So there is no real shortage TBH with you for farmlands being able to sustain the pop even in the future, because with the population growth, fertile land is even ahead of it.

The problem is population growth itseld. That's the much bigger problem because of habitable space. This is what Egypt needs to address and is actually dealing with acceptable methods of controlling it. You're definitely right on that aspect.

What's happening in the videos and posts above by @The SC is the fish farming projects that are taking off like it's no one's business. If you look back a few pages you'll see @mahatir was talking about the Egyptian/Vietnamese cooperation in learning low to develop these fish farms since the Vietnamese are super successful at it and it looks like it's pretty much working well. The issue with that also is that Egypt doesn't have a fully developed commercial fishing industry, by the standards that it should be at considering the available resources. The current one is limited at best and this is not only for local consumption, but for export as well. Fishing the Mediterranean is something that has eluded the Egyptian commercial industry for quite some time, and in the Red Sea, it's very limited because the RS is viewed as the commercial vessel gateway, obviously, and the tourism sector is what's expanding there more so than fishing and oil is the predominant industry in the Red Sea. So these fish farms are a terrific idea but the commercial fishing industry needs to up its game, especially in the Med and they are better off staying out of the RS.

Greenhouses as it is right now...is not a viable model for a huge pop but only to fill a gap...

Oh man, greenhouses can be a tremendous success and a very viable solution for the future, along with desertification. Egypt has massive amounts of land to promote both of these. Irrigation is the most difficult part and that is mostly the undisclosed matter regarding the effects of the Renaissance dam in Ethiopia which is heating up big time BTW. This is the sticking point that it will effect the expansion of irrigation canals and the flow capacity for mechanical systems to areas further outside of the Delta and the immediate shores of the river. It's not just for sustainability, but its effect on growth that's the bigger problem.

Egypt should do as other superpower are doing... investing/buying lands in other countries... like what China/India/US/Russia atc... are doing... by buyng huge amounts of lands in central Africa ( like Ethiopia/ South Sudan among few exmples...) for ridiculous low amount... few years ago an hectare of fertile lands were around 10-20$... even huge amounts of lands were also giving for free... at condition to build schools/ employ local workers etc... Chinese are filling their Agriculture agendas right now...

I don't think the lands these superpowers are purchasing outside their own are because of local, foreseeable shortages like you're suggesting. Rather, I think these are strictly business ventures for nothing other than the bottom line ~ $. Wouldn't you say so? None of those countries are lacking in future local resources but foreign investments for them are a means of reducing things such as labor cost and substantial profit gains.

yes also. But among GCC members... Qatar has invested even more... I saw a report... where their foreign land investment almost equal those of GCC combined.

I'm sure you know there is a huge difference between Qatar and Egypt. This is Qatar's greenery.

They have no choice but to be involved in foreign investments and they import most of their food whereas Egypt is currently attracting foreign investments that have a minimum percentage for local benefits first in order to be purchased. So they're being pretty smart about it. Egypt has staggering amounts of untapped land that can be farmed and expanded. We've only seen a tiny percentage being used from the past 2 centuries.

the only ptoblem with Egypt is their lacking foreign policy and their centric minded expension... they are thinking mostly in the incoming 2 decades at max...

2 decades? Come on, bro. We've been at it since 7000 BC, ma man.

 

[HannibalBarca]

If you look at the fertile land expansion in just the past 40 years, it's approximately 30% greater from what it was. Look at the Nile Delta and how it's ballooning not only east to west, but mostly north. Farmlands have reached the Mediterranean sea from expanding the fertile soil of the Nile shores.

There is also a huge expansion of irrigation fields. This is not even including the desertification of farms where they dig for wells, find sustainable underground water sources then bring in fertile soil and grow farms in the desert. This has actually been happening since the early 1980's. We were actually involved in this. When it started happening, people were buying desert lands from the government and within 6 months to a year, they were growing melons, lettuce, cabbage, oranges, tomatoes, cucumbers it was moving at a pace similar to real estate to the point where the government had to issue limits on purchasing land. The potential to farm desert land is huge in Egypt and will grow rapidly just in the next decade.

Here's a small example which illustrates this desertification process.

This fertile land will keep expanding from the shores of the Nile. If you look at the width of much of these immediate lands all the way down the Nile, it has tripled in width just in the past 50 years and will only grow.

Farming and fertile land really is not the problem in Egypt, as a matter of fact, produce is largely exported than domestically consumed.

Over 88% of the oranges and manderins that grow out of this farm are exported.

So there is no real shortage TBH with you for farmlands being able to sustain the pop even in the future, because with the population growth, fertile land is even ahead of it.

The problem is population growth itseld. That's the much bigger problem because of habitable space. This is what Egypt needs to address and is actually dealing with acceptable methods of controlling it. You're definitely right on that aspect.

What's happening in the videos and posts above by @The SC is the fish farming projects that are taking off like it's no one's business. If you look back a few pages you'll see @mahatir was talking about the Egyptian/Vietnamese cooperation in learning low to develop these fish farms since the Vietnamese are super successful at it and it looks like it's pretty much working well. The issue with that also is that Egypt doesn't have a fully developed commercial fishing industry, by the standards that it should be at considering the available resources. The current one is limited at best and this is not only for local consumption, but for export as well. Fishing the Mediterranean is something that has eluded the Egyptian commercial industry for quite some time, and in the Red Sea, it's very limited because the RS is viewed as the commercial vessel gateway, obviously, and the tourism sector is what's expanding there more so than fishing and oil is the predominant industry in the Red Sea. So these fish farms are a terrific idea but the commercial fishing industry needs to up its game, especially in the Med and they are better off staying out of the RS.



Oh man, greenhouses can be a tremendous success and a very viable solution for the future, along with desertification. Egypt has massive amounts of land to promote both of these. Irrigation is the most difficult part and that is mostly the undisclosed matter regarding the effects of the Renaissance dam in Ethiopia which is heating up big time BTW. This is the sticking point that it will effect the expansion of irrigation canals and the flow capacity for mechanical systems to areas further outside of the Delta and the immediate shores of the river. It's not just for sustainability, but its effect on growth that's the bigger problem.



I don't think the lands these superpowers are purchasing outside their own are because of local, foreseeable shortages like you're suggesting. Rather, I think these are strictly business ventures for nothing other than the bottom line ~ $. Wouldn't you say so? None of those countries are lacking in future local resources but foreign investments for them are a means of reducing things such as labor cost and substantial profit gains.



I'm sure you know there is a huge difference between Qatar and Egypt. This is Qatar's greenery.

They have no choice but to be involved in foreign investments and they import most of their food whereas Egypt is currently attracting foreign investments that have a minimum percentage for local benefits first in order to be purchased. So they're being pretty smart about it. Egypt has staggering amounts of untapped land that can be farmed and expanded. We've only seen a tiny percentage being used from the past 2 centuries.



2 decades? Come on, bro. We've been at it since 7000 BC, ma man.

-The US with his LAnds and pop si saying to lack lands in the coming 2-3 decades... let alone Egypt. Egypt can exploit even more...but it still need more. Turning Deserts in Fertile Lands is a difficult mission & $$... it's possbile with the Nile next to it... but still difficult even with irrigations.
-Greenhouses are not a viable model for Huge pop, since it cost a lot of energy and infrastructurs, Yes you can do alot with it... but it's still not what Countries should seek when you have an incoming dozens of Millions of ppl to appear in few decades...
- For the foreign fertile lands being bought by superpowers like China and India... it'snot a ventureonly... Believe or not... India will need those fertile lands to be able to sustain her own populations in the coming half century... India right now is barely feeding her own pop..;let alone with the 15-20% pop increase and theirway of living... poor ppl thanmake themajority of their country only eat few kilos per month... what will happen when they catch up Western standard or even Chinese one... it's will be a x10...
-As for Qatar image, it was to illustrate bubble comments...
-As for Egypt centric vision... That's at leqt what I see happening in Egypt ( gov/projects etc...) and what I hear with Egyptian friends... I can understand that money could be aproblematic... and it's mostly the main problem... but even with the few billions they got in the past..; the investment was always in things to fill a gap "right now".

I can be wrong, but it's at least what I can understand of the situation.

And ffs it's Egypt not any little hidden country... They f*cking have the potentiel to own it around the entire region.
Many egyptian may like that gov... But I don't..;many more compentent egyptian could do the workthousands of time better and faster than those power blood seeker...

Any way Good luck Bro's

 

[mahatir]

-The US with his LAnds and pop si saying to lack lands in the coming 2-3 decades... let alone Egypt. Egypt can exploit even more...but it still need more. Turning Deserts in Fertile Lands is a difficult mission & $$... it's possbile with the Nile next to it... but still difficult even with irrigations.
-Greenhouses are not a viable model for Huge pop, since it cost a lot of energy and infrastructurs, Yes you can do alot with it... but it's still not what Countries should seek when you have an incoming dozens of Millions of ppl to appear in few decades...
- For the foreign fertile lands being bought by superpowers like China and India... it'snot a ventureonly... Believe or not... India will need those fertile lands to be able to sustain her own populations in the coming half century... India right now is barely feeding her own pop..;let alone with the 15-20% pop increase and theirway of living... poor ppl thanmake themajority of their country only eat few kilos per month... what will happen when they catch up Western standard or even Chinese one... it's will be a x10...
-As for Qatar image, it was to illustrate bubble comments...
-As for Egypt centric vision... That's at leqt what I see happening in Egypt ( gov/projects etc...) and what I hear with Egyptian friends... I can understand that money could be aproblematic... and it's mostly the main problem... but even with the few billions they got in the past..; the investment was always in things to fill a gap "right now".

I can be wrong, but it's at least what I can understand of the situation.

And ffs it's Egypt not any little hidden country... They f*cking have the potentiel to own it around the entire region.
Many egyptian may like that gov... But I don't..;many more compentent egyptian could do the workthousands of time better and faster than those power blood seeker...

Any way Good luck Bro's

3 Decades from now desalinated sea water will be economic to use in growing strategic crops like Wheat and Corn. Egypt main self sufficiency problem is with Wheat crop , it would make more sense for them to buy land in Countries famous for wheat like Ukraine and Russia , tropical African countries are not suitable for growing wheat .

Greenhouses today produce a wide range of vegetables and fruits also Egypt is currently witnessing a boom in Fishing and poultry (95% sufficient) industry which would meet population protein requirement .

China recently discovered a way to grow rice using Sea Water , this technology will eventually find its way to Egypt and they can utilize it which would help in the future reduce wheat consumption by producing more domestic rice.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/rice-seawater-chinese-scientists-food-200-million-a8017971.html

 

[mahatir]

If you look at the fertile land expansion in just the past 40 years, it's approximately 30% greater from what it was. Look at the Nile Delta and how it's ballooning not only east to west, but mostly north. Farmlands have reached the Mediterranean sea from expanding the fertile soil of the Nile shores.

There is also a huge expansion of irrigation fields. This is not even including the desertification of farms where they dig for wells, find sustainable underground water sources then bring in fertile soil and grow farms in the desert. This has actually been happening since the early 1980's. We were actually involved in this. When it started happening, people were buying desert lands from the government and within 6 months to a year, they were growing melons, lettuce, cabbage, oranges, tomatoes, cucumbers it was moving at a pace similar to real estate to the point where the government had to issue limits on purchasing land. The potential to farm desert land is huge in Egypt and will grow rapidly just in the next decade.

Here's a small example which illustrates this desertification process.

This fertile land will keep expanding from the shores of the Nile. If you look at the width of much of these immediate lands all the way down the Nile, it has tripled in width just in the past 50 years and will only grow.

Farming and fertile land really is not the problem in Egypt, as a matter of fact, produce is largely exported than domestically consumed.

Over 88% of the oranges and manderins that grow out of this farm are exported.

So there is no real shortage TBH with you for farmlands being able to sustain the pop even in the future, because with the population growth, fertile land is even ahead of it.

The problem is population growth itseld. That's the much bigger problem because of habitable space. This is what Egypt needs to address and is actually dealing with acceptable methods of controlling it. You're definitely right on that aspect.

What's happening in the videos and posts above by @The SC is the fish farming projects that are taking off like it's no one's business. If you look back a few pages you'll see @mahatir was talking about the Egyptian/Vietnamese cooperation in learning low to develop these fish farms since the Vietnamese are super successful at it and it looks like it's pretty much working well. The issue with that also is that Egypt doesn't have a fully developed commercial fishing industry, by the standards that it should be at considering the available resources. The current one is limited at best and this is not only for local consumption, but for export as well. Fishing the Mediterranean is something that has eluded the Egyptian commercial industry for quite some time, and in the Red Sea, it's very limited because the RS is viewed as the commercial vessel gateway, obviously, and the tourism sector is what's expanding there more so than fishing and oil is the predominant industry in the Red Sea. So these fish farms are a terrific idea but the commercial fishing industry needs to up its game, especially in the Med and they are better off staying out of the RS.


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-The US with his LAnds and pop si saying to lack lands in the coming 2-3 decades... let alone Egypt. Egypt can exploit even more...but it still need more. Turning Deserts in Fertile Lands is a difficult mission & $$... it's possbile with the Nile next to it... but still difficult even with irrigations.
-Greenhouses are not a viable model for Huge pop, since it cost a lot of energy and infrastructurs, Yes you can do alot with it... but it's still not what Countries should seek when you have an incoming dozens of Millions of ppl to appear in few decades...
- For the foreign fertile lands being bought by superpowers like China and India... it'snot a ventureonly... Believe or not... India will need those fertile lands to be able to sustain her own populations in the coming half century... India right now is barely feeding her own pop..;let alone with the 15-20% pop increase and theirway of living... poor ppl thanmake themajority of their country only eat few kilos per month... what will happen when they catch up Western standard or even Chinese one... it's will be a x10...
-As for Qatar image, it was to illustrate bubble comments...
-As for Egypt centric vision... That's at leqt what I see happening in Egypt ( gov/projects etc...) and what I hear with Egyptian friends... I can understand that money could be aproblematic... and it's mostly the main problem... but even with the few billions they got in the past..; the investment was always in things to fill a gap "right now".

I can be wrong, but it's at least what I can understand of the situation.

And ffs it's Egypt not any little hidden country... They f*cking have the potentiel to own it around the entire region.
Many egyptian may like that gov... But I don't..;many more compentent egyptian could do the workthousands of time better and faster than those power blood seeker...

Any way Good luck Bro's

If you look at the fertile land expansion in just the past 40 years, it's approximately 30% greater from what it was. Look at the Nile Delta and how it's ballooning not only east to west, but mostly north. Farmlands have reached the Mediterranean sea from expanding the fertile soil of the Nile shores.

There is also a huge expansion of irrigation fields. This is not even including the desertification of farms where they dig for wells, find sustainable underground water sources then bring in fertile soil and grow farms in the desert. This has actually been happening since the early 1980's. We were actually involved in this. When it started happening, people were buying desert lands from the government and within 6 months to a year, they were growing melons, lettuce, cabbage, oranges, tomatoes, cucumbers it was moving at a pace similar to real estate to the point where the government had to issue limits on purchasing land. The potential to farm desert land is huge in Egypt and will grow rapidly just in the next decade.

Here's a small example which illustrates this desertification process.

This fertile land will keep expanding from the shores of the Nile. If you look at the width of much of these immediate lands all the way down the Nile, it has tripled in width just in the past 50 years and will only grow.

The Government institutions are attempting to develop fish farming in Egypt and introduce fish and shrimps as a staple food for Egyptians to reduce meat consumption and imports . There are alot of fish farming projects still under construction in suez , ismailia and 2 and 3 phases of Galoun project which will all increase production by over 200 thousand tons . The private sector are also increasing their fish farms capacity which eventually would make Egypt a major fishing manufacturing centre in middle east .

Fish farming has been growing really fast in Egypt since 2004 , image production increased from 600 thousand to 1.6 million in 12 years thats even before the government decided to adopt a national strategy to improve fish farming industry . The government worked with a chinese company called Ever green to develop the galoun industrial complex and cooperating with Vietnam regarding labor training and other aspects of managing fish farming.

Spain produces around 30 million tons of Vegetables and Fruits in a region called Almeria using substitute/artificial soil in green houses over infertile desert land .

Arab Organization for Industralization reached an agreement with Spanish Greenhouse manufacturer 2 years ago to Manufacture locally high qaulity Green houses in Egypt . An example of the greenhouses that will operate in Egypt is shown in the video below .

The Egyptian Company managing this project discussed the project in detail in an Egyptian Agriculture Expo

Egypt will witness a boom in Greenhouse farming , this could free up the delta fertile lands for growing exclusively strategic crops like Wheat and Corn . Egypt has one of the highest wheat yields in the world , one acre produces up to 3.5 tons .

-The US with his LAnds and pop si saying to lack lands in the coming 2-3 decades... let alone Egypt. Egypt can exploit even more...but it still need more. Turning Deserts in Fertile Lands is a difficult mission & $$... it's possbile with the Nile next to it... but still difficult even with irrigations.
-Greenhouses are not a viable model for Huge pop, since it cost a lot of energy and infrastructurs, Yes you can do alot with it... but it's still not what Countries should seek when you have an incoming dozens of Millions of ppl to appear in few decades...

USA is losing land as a result of Shale oil drilling which is destroying fertile land and causing Environmental damage.
China is using African lands to grow corn in order to extract ethanol fuel , its not for Food security but rather Energy security.

 

[Gomig-21]

which would meet population protein requirement .

LOL! I've never heard it put that way looool. Is there such a statistical requirement?

 

[The SC]

Signing of the contract for «Dabaa» nuclear plant next week

Parliamentary sources told «Al-Watan» that the contract for the Dabaa nuclear project will be signed next week, to begin the operational steps before the end of 2017.

https://www.elwatannews.com/news/details/2757882#hpslider

 

[Crocodile]

Really nice thread you got going here guys @Gomig-21 @The SC .. Sounds like the kind I'd enjoy contributing to.. Gomig basha probably remembers my threads from old IDF..

Stay tuned

 

[Crocodile]

Egypt’s foreign reserves jump to $36.7 bln in October, highest in history

Egypt recorded its highest level of foreign reserves in its history, Egypt’s Central Bank announced on Sunday, climbing from $36.535 billion at the end of September to $36.703 billion at the end of October.

In July, foreign net reserves jumped to $36.036 billion, hitting pre-2011 levels for the first time since the 25 January uprising, with international net reserves increasing $4.7 billion in July alone.

Egypt’s foreign reserves have been climbing since the country secured a $12 billion, three-year International Monetary Fund loan program in November 2016, shortly after the country decided to float its currency in a bid to lure back foreign investors and revive its ailing economy.

(Sorry I couldn't post the link, my account is still too new. The article is from Egypt Independent)

 

[Gomig-21]

Egypt’s foreign reserves jump to $36.7 bln in October, highest in history

Egypt recorded its highest level of foreign reserves in its history, Egypt’s Central Bank announced on Sunday, climbing from $36.535 billion at the end of September to $36.703 billion at the end of October.

In July, foreign net reserves jumped to $36.036 billion, hitting pre-2011 levels for the first time since the 25 January uprising, with international net reserves increasing $4.7 billion in July alone.

Egypt’s foreign reserves have been climbing since the country secured a $12 billion, three-year International Monetary Fund loan program in November 2016, shortly after the country decided to float its currency in a bid to lure back foreign investors and revive its ailing economy.

(Sorry I couldn't post the link, my account is still too new. The article is from Egypt Independent)

Better than a steady rise, really good news. A lot going on.

 

[GBU-28]

There's a lot of untapped potential in Egypt. Big population that if fully integrated into the workforce, could make Egypt a powerhouse. I see reports of more entrepreneurs springing up.

Austerity and IMF loan helped, but also need to focus on education as there are still millions of Egyptians on the outskirts of the big cities that are illiterate.

 

[Gomig-21]

There's a lot of untapped potential in Egypt. Big population that if fully integrated into the workforce, could make Egypt a powerhouse. I see reports of more entrepreneurs springing up.

Austerity and IMF loan helped, but also need to focus on education as there are still millions of Egyptians on the outskirts of the big cities that are illiterate.

From the days of King Farouk, our leaders have been the stereotypical, Arab disasters of the day. Even post Farouk with Egypt's first president Mohammad Naguib really didn't do much for the prosperity of Egypt. When he was followed by Nasser, we ended up with a nationalist who did some great things for Egypt but also made historical blunders that we're still paying for till today. His nationalizing of the Suez Canal was a HUGE gamble. Even though it ended up working in Egypt's favor, it set up the course for the disaster that is known as 1967 which in of itself, has essentially set Egypt back close to 20 years after that. He knew what he was doing were huge gambles that could trigger war and yet was completely unprepared for it when it came. That was his single, biggest mistake that costs Egypt at least 20 years of setbacks and caused the next leader to do nothing but concentrate on fixing that disaster, which also included going to war, again. The turnaround really happened during the presidency of Sadat but the man couldn't even get a chance to reap the benefits of a successful war and work on the prosperity of the country before he was gunned down. Then came the squatter in Mubarak who never really brought great prosperity to Egypt. Always worried about his position and always small developments here and there but nothing of huge merit. Then the 2011 revolution and the ensuing disastrous elections. Then the Sisi coup and his election a year later and now, almost 4 years later we've seen the best growth in Egypt since ever. These times are truly the best of Egyptian economic and developmental growth that we've ever seen, yet we still have the to deal with the evil cretins who are trying to destabilize the country. It's a never ending battle but these are truly the best times the country has ever seen.

 

[GBU-28]

From the days of King Farouk, our leaders have been the stereotypical, Arab disasters of the day. Even post Farouk with Egypt's first president Mohammad Naguib really didn't do much for the prosperity of Egypt. When he was followed by Nasser, we ended up with a nationalist who did some great things for Egypt but also made historical blunders that we're still paying for till today. His nationalizing of the Suez Canal was a HUGE gamble. Even though it ended up working in Egypt's favor, it set up the course for the disaster that is known as 1967 which in of itself, has essentially set Egypt back close to 20 years after that. He knew what he was doing were huge gambles that could trigger war and yet was completely unprepared for it when it came. That was his single, biggest mistake that costs Egypt at least 20 years of setbacks and caused the next leader to do nothing but concentrate on fixing that disaster, which also included going to war, again. The turnaround really happened during the presidency of Sadat but the man couldn't even get a chance to reap the benefits of a successful war and work on the prosperity of the country before he was gunned down. Then came the squatter in Mubarak who never really brought great prosperity to Egypt. Always worried about his position and always small developments here and there but nothing of huge merit. Then the 2011 revolution and the ensuing disastrous elections. Then the Sisi coup and his election a year later and now, almost 4 years later we've seen the best growth in Egypt since ever. These times are truly the best of Egyptian economic and developmental growth that we've ever seen, yet we still have the to deal with the evil cretins who are trying to destabilize the country. It's a never ending battle but these are truly the best times the country has ever seen.

The Mubarak era was just stagnant. Stable-ish politics, but totally clueless and lazy about the economy.

Economy seemed archaic until recently and had quite a bit of Marxist policies still in place. I think all bread was subsidised if I recall.

Tourism is massive for Egypt, so controlling Sinai is essential.

I think Sisi is a genuine reformer. I just hope he doesn't let power get to him like the others did.

 

[The SC]

Video comprehensively explains the idea of the Suez Canal Development Project

The area of Qantara includes the establishment of a technology zone, a new industrial zone, a new residential city and a petroleum industries zone. The Ain Sokhna area, which is based on the ports of Adabiya, Ain Sokhna and Suez, includes a ship repair and maintenance station, general cargo terminals, container terminals, The establishment of a logistics area, maritime services, an industrial zone, a technology zone and a petroleum industry zone.

 

[Gomig-21]

Tourism is massive for Egypt, so controlling Sinai is essential.

Speaking of controlling Sinai, I saw your post on one of the chaotic "Jerusalem" threads where you mentioned that there are plans to make Sinai a Palestinian state. I giggled a little when I read that. You know why it's called Sinai? Because it's a peninsula, kinda like Florida or the Baja Peninsula. The bottom line is that it is Egypt. Not part of Egypt, or an extension of Egypt, it IS Egypt. When a couple of hard-core Likudists go on Israeli TV and say things like "the best place for the Palestinians is in the Sinai", one must really wonder what the hell they are smoking or drinking. Besides the impossibility of even entertaining that thought, the Palestinian people would never want to give up their rightful land, in Palestine. These people really have a nerve, I tell ya. lol.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Speaking of controlling Sinai, I saw your post on one of the chaotic "Jerusalem" threads where you mentioned that there are plans to make Sinai a Palestinian state. I giggled a little when I read that. You know why it's called Sinai? Because it's a peninsula, kinda like Florida or the Baja Peninsula. The bottom line is that it is Egypt. Not part of Egypt, or an extension of Egypt, it IS Egypt. When a couple of hard-core Likudists go on Israeli TV and say things like "the best place for the Palestinians is in the Sinai", one must really wonder what the hell they are smoking or drinking. Besides the impossibility of even entertaining that thought, the Palestinian people would never want to give up their rightful land, in Palestine. These people really have a nerve, I tell ya. lol.

that's some likud's nice boys... bc you can hear from them that... "The Red sea border is a "right" to Israel..."