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nah that was a bad one.. SA and GCC is the devil himself in creating problems.. you will see it when lebanon will fall than keep it in mind that this is a game not from iran not from turkey..

Last time I checked it was KSA that broke a peace when the bloody Lebanese Civil War ended. Back then and until recently Lebanon was known as the most volatile Arab country. It was a joke in all Arab capitals that if Lebanon was unstable "everything was back to normal".


That's why it is called the Ta'if agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taif_Agreement

Last time I checked it is KSA that is most supportive (economically) of the Lebanese state. Last time I checked Lebanon would almost collapse if not for the Lebanese diaspora in the GCC. Last time I checked KSA has in the past been DONATING weaponry to the Lebanese army UNLIKE any other country in the world.


Last time I checked it is not KSA or the GCC that has created a militia within the state of Lebanon (Hezbollah) that occupies Southern Lebanon and undermines the Lebanese army. In fact a militia (Hezbollah) that is stronger than the Lebanese army and Lebanese state. What would you say about some foreign country creating a loyal militia to a foreign country (example Iran) that would occupy a part of Turkey and be stronger than the Turkish army? A militia that would undermine your entire political system too. A highly corrupt militia. You would not like that unless you are mentally unstable. Ask any NATIONALIST Lebanese. Sane one. He or she will answer you.




You are either drunk or just not honest with yourself. KSA/GCC and Egypt and Insha'Allah soon Iraq (which has almost recovered) will serve as a impenetrable BULWARK against non-Arab regional opportunists that want to harm the Arab world and make their own plots.

Last time I checked, BTW, KSA/GCC businessmen are investing huge sums of money in Lebanese (LOCAL) industries as well and tourists from the GCC/KSA also arrive in great numbers, less so after the Syrian civil war due to instability and regimes in power issuing travel bans at certain periods.

Ask the ONLY Lebanese user here on PDF. @Halimi . He is 100% pro KSA and pro-Arab cooperation and knows what is going on in Lebanon better than anyone here. I have discussed with him such topics many times here.


So please do not bullshit here and go fool non-Arabs (who do not matter here).:lol:
 
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All Iran has been doing is spawning militia's left and right for a failed resistance axis, this can be cut off starting in Iraq to isolate Iran from Syria.

That 'failed' axis also happened to save you from ISIS. The same ISIS that is ideological child of the very same country you refused to mention on purpose.
Iran has not forced itself on anyone neither do we stay in a country by force. All has been done with approval of Iraqi gov. Now try kicking Americans out of your country if you can. Sometimes not biting the hands that have helped you can be a welcome move.
 
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That 'failed' axis also happened to save you from ISIS. The same ISIS that is ideological child of the very same country you refused to mention on purpose.
Iran has not saved itself on anyone neither do we stay in a country by force. Now try kicking Americans out of your country if you can. Sometimes not biting the hands that have helped you can be a welcome move.

Your pathetic attempt remains pathetic. Daesh has as much in common with KSA as Iran has.

It was not any imaginary "axis of resistance" that defeated Daesh but the SONS and DAUGHTERS of the Iraqi soil (90% Arabs) and their sacrifice. In fact Western/regional (international coalition against Daesh) played a MUCH larger role than any Iranian help. Without air support Daesh would still be in Iraq controlling vast landmasses (most likely).


Why should Iraqis kick out American soldiers out if their presence results in more positives (currently) than negatives and keeps Iranian Mullah attempts of hijacking Iraq and turning it into another failed Southern Lebanon as your minion Al-Maliki tried to do but miserably failed at? You angry that Iraq is doing 100 times better under the wise leadership of Al-Abadi and that Iraq is quickly regaining it's ancient historical and brotherly ties with its Arab neighbors, most importantly KSA? Well, I have news for you. What you say from 2003 until 2014, was an anomaly. It won't return again.


Neither Iraqis themselves nor the Arabs will allow you to turn Iraq into a failed Southern Lebanon.
 
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That 'failed' axis also happened to save you from ISIS. The same ISIS that is ideological child of the very same country you refused to mention on purpose.
Iran has not forced itself on anyone neither do we stay in a country by force. All has been done with approval of Iraqi gov. Now try kicking Americans out of your country if you can. Sometimes not biting the hands that have helped you can be a welcome move.
@TheCamelGuy is an atheist with Sunni background. Currently he lives in the US. We shouldn’t take him seriously.

Previously he was a very extreme Saudi critic.
 
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Your pathetic attempt remains pathetic. Daesh has as much in common with KSA as Iran has.

It was not any imaginary "axis of resistance" that defeated Daesh but the SONS and DAUGHTERS of the Iraqi soil (90% Arabs) and their sacrifice. In fact Western/regional (international coalition against Daesh) played a MUCH larger role than any Iranian help. Without air support Daesh would still be in Iraq controlling vast landmasses (most likely).


Why should Iraqis kick out American soldiers out if their presence results in more positives (currently) than negatives and keeps Iranian Mullah attempts of hijacking Iraq and turning it into another failed Southern Lebanon as your minion Al-Maliki tried to do but miserably failed at? You angry that Iraq is doing 100 times better under the wise leadership of Al-Abadi and that Iraq is quickly regaining it's ancient historical and brotherly ties with its Arab neighbors, most importantly KSA? Well, I have news for you. What you say from 2003 until 2014, was an anomaly. It won't return again.

Making your text font bigger doesn't make your rambling more true. Just so you know.

If I was angry about current situation of Iraq, I wouldn't support my country's help to Iraq to defeat ISIS. An stable Iraq is the best for our interest. Iraq is going in right direction, I don't give a damn who rules there as long as the country is safe and without violence. That's what we want and that's what I want. Iraqis deserve better.
 
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That 'failed' axis also happened to save you from ISIS. The same ISIS that is ideological child of the very same country you refused to mention on purpose.
Iran has not forced itself on anyone neither do we stay in a country by force. All has been done with approval of Iraqi gov. Now try kicking Americans out of your country if you can. Sometimes not biting the hands that have helped you can be a welcome move.


Ahahaha, they are ungratefull as you can see. How many time did you sent kasim suleymani:-). Giving them weapons and now they are getting cocky ahahaha. The arabs in the middle east are ungrateful, if you go north africa they would thanked you for.
 
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Making your text font bigger doesn't make your rambling more true. Just so you know.

If I was angry about current situation of Iraq, I wouldn't support my country's help to Iraq to defeat ISIS. An stable Iraq is the best for our interest. Iraq is going in right direction, I don't give a damn who rules there as long as the country is safe and without violence. That's what we want and that's what I want. Iraqis deserve better.

Well, what I wrote are factual statements but I am highlighting them in case of resident trolls and Arab-obsessed users missing them.

Guess what, a stable Iraq is in the best interests of everybody in the region, including the Arab countries that border Iraq. In fact it is most important for us Arabs due to tons of reasons. Much more so than it is for Iran or Turkey.

Which sane people wish (as in really wish) for instability or killings to occur in any regional country (excluding Israel maybe due to well-known political reasons but even here it can be argued otherwise nowadays) that would impact civilians 99% of the time rather than the culprits?

Even I despite disliking the Iranian Arabs that rule Iran and their policies in the Arab world a lot (never made a secret of it) would not wish Iran to turn into another Afghanistan next door as it would impact the Arab world (at least neighboring Iraq and GCC) negatively and destroy the region further, attracting foreign investors away, increasing insecurity, creating mass-migrations and most likely environmental catastrophes etc.
 
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I know but I’m saying most of Shia Iraqis are with Iran.

@Alshawi1234 @Malik Alashter
No... Maybe you don't know... but for Iraqi case... their shia clerics are not really "with" Iran... it's quite the opposite...
For Today, it may seems Shias are with "Iran"... bc of today turmoil...but when all is over...get ready... it will be like before... the 2 sides will fight for "ruling" upon shias...
 
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I know but I’m saying most of Shia Iraqis are with Iran.

@Alshawi1234 @Malik Alashter

All Iraqi users here are nationalists and similar online forums. As is the case with most nationals of any country. None of them would side against the Arab world in favor of Iran. I know because I have discussed this with them and they are hardcore Shias, at least Malik. @Malik Alashter even lived in Northern KSA as a refugee after KSA welcoming Iraqi Shia Arab refugees (almost 200.000) during the Shia uprisings in the South in the early 1990's. I can tell you this. However they, like many Iraqi Shia Arabs, do not necessarily disagree with all Iranian foreign policy due to shared ideology. For instance they share a similar opinion about events in Syria. Does that mean that they would want to attack their fellow brethren (that they have almost everything in common including close family, clan and tribal ties) across the border in KSA, Kuwait, Syria and Jordan, just because we are majority Sunni? Of course not. Only a tiny percentage (mostly diaspora) would even entertain such ideas. Majority of Iraqi Shia Arabs do not believe in Wilayat al-Faqih. So most do not agree with Iran on all fronts at all. Many disagreements.

Go visit Southern Iraq. It's like visiting KSA. People are identical by large. Ask @Malik Alashter who knows both countries unlike most Iraqi Shia diaspora. Ask @SALMAN F . Visit any Arab or Iraqi forum. Ask their historians too. Ties are as close as between Eastern Syria and Western Iraq. BTW Western Iraq and KSA has as close ties as Southern and Central Iraq. North too. Same people by large. All of Northern Iraq is dominated by the Shammar for instance as well as Northern Eastern Syria. Educating oneself on the ground realities would help.


No... Maybe you don't know... but for Iraqi case... their shia clerics are not really "with" Iran... it's quite the opposite...

Al-Sadr says hello (single most influential Iraqi Shia Arab after the old Al-Sistani that is mostly apolitical). He has better ties with KSA and Arab states than with Iran.
 
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You’re welcome.

There’re already 2 million Iraqis in Iran.

Iranians and Iraqi Shia people/clerics are very very close to each other. [Sadri nationalists are the only exception] Iraqi Sunnis are Kurds are also our brothers and welcome to visit. We have lived beside each other for thousands of years. We can even say we are one nation into two borders.
last statement...not really...
And love how you took "Sunni Arabs" out of "Iraq"
 
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