Eating less meat is more Islamic

[diva]

It has to be from a list of allowed animals
Carnivores are not allowed
It has to be slaughtered in the name of Allah ( basically means that although we are running the knife, it is actually Allah who is the greatest).
Animal has to be killed quick with least agony.
Blood has to be drawn out of the animal and blood is haram.

Hope that helps.

ok this may sound stupid to you but really i was thinking about it. when the shops say that they serve halal food generally in western countries so the animals when they are killed are not necessarily killed by muslims so how can 1 be sure that they are being killed on the name of Allah. i mean 1, 3 and 4th point is possible and one can judge that but 2nd

 

[Awesome]

2kg of meat monthly? I do more than that in a week!

Vegetarian for me, is side salads, humus, dips, other condiments.

Remember everything cannot be weighed as Islamic or non-Islamic. These things are supposed to be indifferent or non-consequential religion.

Ultimately, the argument is simple. The Qur'an reveals that all living animals are sentient beings, just as human beings are.

"There is not an animal on earth, nor a bird that flies on its wings – but they are communities like you." (Qur'an, 6:38)

Also arguments like these are so full of it. The Quran does not say something like birds and animals are sentient species. It says there are communities of them. We all know animals interact in herds, flocks and other groups with animal instinct than as a carefully premeditated action. I think the closest form of communicative ability has been found on Dolphins and that is so basic, and so crude in itself.

So please don't twist the Quran to peddle your own personal vegetarian agendas and keep your hands off of T-bone (yes no pun intended of course).

 

[Awesome]

ok this may sound stupid to you but really i was thinking about it. when the shops say that they serve halal food generally in western countries so the animals when they are killed are not necessarily killed by muslims so how can 1 be sure that they are being killed on the name of Allah. i mean 1, 3 and 4th point is possible and one can judge that but 2nd

The Halal authorizing body audits the procedures and gives it a certification that its Halal. Beyond that, its a matter of faith and the responsibility shifts on the authority.

You also can choose to trust one authorizing body over the other and reputations count a lot.

 

[Durran3]

I tried really hard to be Vegetarian..I actually went Vegetarian for One week but after that I couldn't take it anymore and went to Harvey's to have a nice grilled double Cheese burger........ but i'll keep on trying

I just feel being vegetarian is the right thing to do.. you smell better, have better sex, are more active, don't consume to much calories, your weight is good and your breath doesn't stink either lol... but while i type this i am actually thinking about Steak with gravy, mashed potato with bar b que Tikka;s

 

[Spring Onion]

I tried really hard to be Vegetarian..I actually went Vegetarian for One week but after that I couldn't take it anymore and went to Harvey's to have a nice grilled double Cheese burger........ but i'll keep on trying

if you are from KP then indeed we cannot live on ghas phoons

I just feel being vegetarian is the right thing to do.. you smell better, have better sex, are more active, don't consume to much calories, your weight is good and your breath doesn't stink either lol... but while i type this i am actually thinking about Steak with gravy, mashed potato with bar b que Tikka;s

i had come across some baaaaaad smelling vegetarians and other qualities you mentioned other than the weight can also be debated

 

[nForce]

I tried really hard to be Vegetarian..I actually went Vegetarian for One week but after that I couldn't take it anymore and went to Harvey's to have a nice grilled double Cheese burger........ but i'll keep on trying

I just feel being vegetarian is the right thing to do.. you smell better, have better sex, are more active, don't consume to much calories, your weight is good and your breath doesn't stink either lol... but while i type this i am actually thinking about Steak with gravy, mashed potato with bar b que Tikka;s

I am a non vegetarian,to the degree that previously I used to call myself Meat-Eater.But nowadays,I have almost given up non-veg food.Occasional consumption of meat is okay,but the bad effects are far greater if we over do it.
I am a real foodie.So I tried finding tasty vegetarian items,and found out there are lots!!...I still consume meat,but only on rare occasions,it is no longer a top priority on my list...

 

[Durran3]

i had come across some baaaaaad smelling vegetarians and other qualities you mentioned other than the weight can also be debated

Those were probably just people who lack genuine Hygiene

Be Rational.. how does eating Tomato, Lettuce, lentil, pasta, potato, Cucumbers, fruits, dry fruits make you smell bad compared to someone who gobbles down meat after meat? Just keep a good healthy died and you wouldn't smell as bad as a heavy meat gobbler thats a scientific fact :p

"More strange (but good!) news from the world of science. Anthropologists in the Czech Republic decided to study the effects of diet on body odor. More specifically, they wanted to find out if women prefer the body odor of men fed a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian diet. Well, you can probably guess what happened. Apparently, women judged the body odor of men fed a vegetarian diet to be "significantly more attractive, more pleasant, and less intense".

Strange, but true.

 

[Speaker]

Meat is also less efficient in energy input terms.

It does not matter if it is a wild animal fed on a diet of grass and leaves. But when you breed and rear animals just for the sake of meat, and feed them stuff that humans eat, you are effectively wasting a lot of energy. Per some estimates, the meat used to feed one human requires the animal to eat the food of almost 50 humans.

 

[Peshwa]

I tried really hard to be Vegetarian..I actually went Vegetarian for One week but after that I couldn't take it anymore and went to Harvey's to have a nice grilled double Cheese burger........ but i'll keep on trying

I just feel being vegetarian is the right thing to do.. you smell better, have better sex, are more active, don't consume to much calories, your weight is good and your breath doesn't stink either lol... but while i type this i am actually thinking about Steak with gravy, mashed potato with bar b que Tikka;s

Durran....You have a way with words.... you nailed it!

Although I am a hardcore animal lover to the level that I threw away all my leather jackets etc.....I cannot seem to get myself to quit eating meat....something about eating a fat juicy Ribeye from Wolfgangs with some Canadian bacon takes me to a better place....

I have recently discovered a newer way to clog my arteries.....

Yakiniku....Its a Japanese bbq where you cook your own meat....It comes pre-marinated with some veggies on the side.....
I suggest you try it....its the only way I can get both red and green in my system...

Though I will say.....I love...Veggie food on days we have pooja.....''

Nevertheless....God forgive me!

PS: Whats Harveys? Is this a Canadian steak house?

 

[Al-zakir]

Eating less meat is more Islamic

For most of the billion-plus Muslims who sit down each evening to break their Ramadan fast, meat will be on the menu. Lots of it. But how Islamic is eating meat?

Not very, according to Sheikh Hamza Yusuf, who argues that historically Muslims ate so little meat they were almost vegetarian. "Meat is not a necessity in sharia, and in the old days most Muslims used to eat meat – if they were wealthy, like middle class – once a week on Friday. If they were poor – on the Eids."

Well I respect Sheikh Hamza Yusuf but meat is diffidently Islamic so long it Halal except Pork.

Kabab anyone.

 

[Peshwa]

i had come across some baaaaaad smelling vegetarians and other qualities you mentioned other than the weight can also be debated

I cant speak for the BO one emanates from being a veggie vs a meat eater, but this much I can tell you.....

Meat = clogged arteries.....esp red meat....chicken etc is fine but beef and mutton are sureshot causes of high cholesterol in individuals...

Nevertheless.....desi style veggie food aint healthy either....coz we tend to compensate vegetarian food with oil to enhance taste.....

But Vegetarianism is any day a healthier choice!

 

[CardSharp]

Those were probably just people who lack genuine Hygiene

Be Rational.. how does eating Tomato, Lettuce, lentil, pasta, potato, Cucumbers, fruits, dry fruits make you smell bad compared to someone who gobbles down meat after meat? Just keep a good healthy died and you wouldn't smell as bad as a heavy meat gobbler thats a scientific fact :p

"More strange (but good!) news from the world of science. Anthropologists in the Czech Republic decided to study the effects of diet on body odor. More specifically, they wanted to find out if women prefer the body odor of men fed a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian diet. Well, you can probably guess what happened. Apparently, women judged the body odor of men fed a vegetarian diet to be "significantly more attractive, more pleasant, and less intense".

Strange, but true.

They might smell nicer, but vegetarian men have the bodies of 12 year olds. What will the women say when they see that? I'll stick with my meaty high protein diet and good hygiene thanks.

 

[CardSharp]

I cant speak for the BO one emanates from being a veggie vs a meat eater, but this much I can tell you.....

Meat = clogged arteries.....esp red meat....chicken etc is fine but beef and mutton are sureshot causes of high cholesterol in individuals...

Nevertheless.....desi style veggie food aint healthy either....coz we tend to compensate vegetarian food with oil to enhance taste.....

But Vegetarianism is any day a healthier choice!

This is a biochemistry falsehood. The cholesterol you eat doesn't equal cholesterol in your blood and liver. Cholesterol is hormonal control first and foremost, how else does cholesterol medication work when they don't cut down the amount of cholesterol you eat.

People associate high cholesterol with high fat foods because obesity is related to cholesterol levels.


Though the point about smell may be true, because of the higher sulfur contain of protein, sulfur eating bacteria in one's armpit produce more sulfur compounds, which are all more or less smell as a class.

 

[Durran3]

They might smell nicer, but vegetarian men have the bodies of 12 year olds. What will the women say when they see that? I'll stick with my meaty high protein diet and good hygiene thanks.

That entirely depends on your Diet.. I've seen some pretty well built vegetarians and two UFC Fighters are vegetarians. My Co worker at RIM was a fairly tall well built guy and he was a vegetarian but he had a very strong vegetarian diet though like he'd eat about 4 meals a day easy.

 

[Durran3]

Meat is also less efficient in energy input terms.

It does not matter if it is a wild animal fed on a diet of grass and leaves. But when you breed and rear animals just for the sake of meat, and feed them stuff that humans eat, you are effectively wasting a lot of energy. Per some estimates, the meat used to feed one human requires the animal to eat the food of almost 50 humans.

True that, not to mention the insane amounts of work being done with Biofuels ( I am all for Algae Biofuels but Crop Biofuels is a killer for those who need food in developing countries). Thousands of tons crops are going towards Animal feeds or Biofuels. Most of the Cows that are raised in these places have never even seen proper green grass.