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[antonius123]

I wonder, what is your opinion on ahok?

Does he a good or bad Governor? And why?

Do you Jakarta under ahok bad or good? Can you feel the different? What is it?

What is your vision of Jakarta? And what is your opinion about world class city around the world like New York, Tokyo, Shanghai, Singapore, Melbourne, etc? Have you been on one of these cities?

What is your opinion on Anies? And his recent displacement policy similar to ahok to normalizing the river?

He won't tell the truth, he just hate ahok because of the radicalism and ahok could not in line with the intolerance.

 

[Yingluck]

Something positive for Indonesia. Indonesia government persevere on virginity test. This is something China and everyone should learn.

Every man want their wife to be virgin, and Indon are most likely to get one.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/22/indonesia-no-end-abusive-virginity-tests

Indonesia: No End to Abusive ‘Virginity Tests’

Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo should order Indonesia’s police chief and armed forces commander to immediately ban so-called “virginity tests” of female applicants, Human Rights Watch said today.

Senior military and police officers with knowledge of the “virginity testing” policy told Human Rights Watch that the security forces continue to impose these cruel and discriminatory “tests,” which are officially classified as “psychological” examinations, for “mental health and morality reasons.”

“The Indonesian government’s continuing tolerance for abusive ‘virginity tests’ by the security forces reflects an appalling lack of political will to protect the rights of Indonesian women,” said Nisha Varia, women’s rights advocacy director. “These tests are degrading and discriminatory, and they harm women’s equal access to important job opportunities.”

Virginity testing is a form of gender-based violence and is a widely discredited practice. In November 2014, the World Health Organization issued guidelines that stated, “There is no place for virginity (or ‘two-finger’) testing; it has no scientific validity.” Human Rights Watch first exposed the use of “virginity tests” by Indonesian security forces in 2014, but since then the government has failed to take the necessary steps to prohibit the practice.

An Indonesian military doctor told Human Rights Watch that senior military personnel were well-aware of the arguments against “virginity tests,” but were unwilling to abolish them. The doctor suggested that stopping the tests required the direct and explicit intervention of Indonesian Armed Forces commander Gen. Gatot Nurmantyo to order an end to the practice. “The military is a top-down organization. We have to follow orders.”

Jokowi should declare an immediate prohibition of “virginity tests” by the military and police and create an independent monitoring mechanism to ensure that security forces comply.

The testing includes the invasive “two-finger test” to determine whether female applicants’ hymens are intact, findings that are scientifically baseless. While Human Rights Watch found that applicants who were deemed to have “failed” were not necessarily penalized, all of the women with whom we spoke with described the test as painful, embarrassing, and traumatic.

All branches of the Indonesian military – air force, army, and navy – have used “virginity tests” for decades and, in certain circumstances, also extended the requirement to the fiancées of military officers. In May 2015, then-commander of Indonesia's armed forces, General Moeldoko, responded to criticism of “virginity tests,” by saying to the media, “So what's the problem? It’s a good thing, so why criticize it?”

Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya that same month asserted that “virginity tests” are a means of screening out inappropriate female recruits. “If they are no longer virgins, if they are naughty, it means their mentality is not good,” Basya told The Guardian. Current Indonesian Armed Forces chief Nurmantyo has taken no steps to ban the practice.

 

[antonius123]

lol......chinese descendants on this thread still defending ahok
ahok is finished even he can't controlled his own family
lost in election then being a jailed and divorced right now
just wait his corruption cases will be unveiled one by one, bye bye

Your judgement is bias.

Yes ahok has some weakness and he is naive about politics; but he work well, straight and bravely confront corruptions and inefficiency, something that we have to appreciate; and man with strong commitment and idealistic like him (in the middle of opportunistic politicians) is very seldom to find.

Your hatred has blinded you, and your accusation about his corruption is not more than slender.

 

[Menthol]

Something positive for Indonesia. Indonesia government persevere on virginity test. This is something China and everyone should learn.

Every man want their wife to be virgin, and Indon are most likely to get one.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/11/22/indonesia-no-end-abusive-virginity-tests

Indonesia: No End to Abusive ‘Virginity Tests’

Indonesian President Joko “Jokowi” Widodo should order Indonesia’s police chief and armed forces commander to immediately ban so-called “virginity tests” of female applicants, Human Rights Watch said today.

Senior military and police officers with knowledge of the “virginity testing” policy told Human Rights Watch that the security forces continue to impose these cruel and discriminatory “tests,” which are officially classified as “psychological” examinations, for “mental health and morality reasons.”

“The Indonesian government’s continuing tolerance for abusive ‘virginity tests’ by the security forces reflects an appalling lack of political will to protect the rights of Indonesian women,” said Nisha Varia, women’s rights advocacy director. “These tests are degrading and discriminatory, and they harm women’s equal access to important job opportunities.”

Virginity testing is a form of gender-based violence and is a widely discredited practice. In November 2014, the World Health Organization issued guidelines that stated, “There is no place for virginity (or ‘two-finger’) testing; it has no scientific validity.” Human Rights Watch first exposed the use of “virginity tests” by Indonesian security forces in 2014, but since then the government has failed to take the necessary steps to prohibit the practice.

An Indonesian military doctor told Human Rights Watch that senior military personnel were well-aware of the arguments against “virginity tests,” but were unwilling to abolish them. The doctor suggested that stopping the tests required the direct and explicit intervention of Indonesian Armed Forces commander Gen. Gatot Nurmantyo to order an end to the practice. “The military is a top-down organization. We have to follow orders.”

Jokowi should declare an immediate prohibition of “virginity tests” by the military and police and create an independent monitoring mechanism to ensure that security forces comply.

The testing includes the invasive “two-finger test” to determine whether female applicants’ hymens are intact, findings that are scientifically baseless. While Human Rights Watch found that applicants who were deemed to have “failed” were not necessarily penalized, all of the women with whom we spoke with described the test as painful, embarrassing, and traumatic.

All branches of the Indonesian military – air force, army, and navy – have used “virginity tests” for decades and, in certain circumstances, also extended the requirement to the fiancées of military officers. In May 2015, then-commander of Indonesia's armed forces, General Moeldoko, responded to criticism of “virginity tests,” by saying to the media, “So what's the problem? It’s a good thing, so why criticize it?”

Indonesian military spokesman Fuad Basya that same month asserted that “virginity tests” are a means of screening out inappropriate female recruits. “If they are no longer virgins, if they are naughty, it means their mentality is not good,” Basya told The Guardian. Current Indonesian Armed Forces chief Nurmantyo has taken no steps to ban the practice.

There is no virgin test in Indonesia. I never heard the news.

You will surprise that a lot of Indonesian girl are not virgin anymore, despite many of them wear hijab everyday.

But I 100% agree that Indonesia and Chinese countries should have it.

Your judgement is bias.

Yes ahok has some weakness and he is naive about politics; but he work well, straight and bravely confront corruptions and inefficiency, something that we have to appreciate; and man with strong commitment and idealistic like him (in the middle of opportunistic politicians) is very seldom to find.

Your hatred has blinded you, and your accusation about his corruption is not more than slender.

I'm waiting his answer on my questions above.

I want to know his way of thinking.


The main reason I choose Jokowi and Ahok, despite all their imperfections, it's because I want Indonesia to be developed and wealthy. I want Jakarta to be a city that we can proud of, happy to live there, and show it off to the world.

 

[antonius123]

Agree if Ahok ia clueless bull.

I rather prefer if Ahok is like Sri Mulyani. No political affiliations, but be used for his skills.

It is difficult, because Ahok is against stream (against corruptors) - he cut traditionally spent but unnecessary budget, that mean he create a lot of enemies.

 

[Menthol]

It is difficult, because Ahok is against stream (against corruptors) - he cut traditionally spent but unnecessary budget, that mean he create a lot of enemies.

Yup, a lot of enemy.

As well as he reorganize the illegal parking lot and relocating slums. All these areas owned by local criminal boss, which is adding more enemy from powerful people below.

 

[Nike]

Indonesia become 1 trillion US dollar economy is not only because Ahok only, he is a good man and straightforward politician. There is more people like Sri Mulyani, Agus Marto, Thomas Lembong, Tito Karnavian, Jokowi, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Budiono, Gita Wiryawan, Airlangga Hartarto and other which is very capable and have progressive view.