DRDO's New Multi-caliber weapon system to replace INSAS

[Water Car Engineer]

@Water Car Engineer
any new updates mate on MCIWS mate????

None, but several prototypes are being tested to the brink pretty much.

 

[The_Sidewinder]

None, but several prototypes are being tested to the brink pretty much.

I hope this weapon gets inducted under finsas sooner than later.

 

[IND151]

Well INSAS was also their own but it didn't worked the way they wanted that to work so why we should waste money on start completely new project when we have options in the world and also we have pretty much upgraded both AK-47 and also HK G-3 according to our needs

Then why China develops its own assault rifles? They have huge pocket, they can buy AKs from Russians?

Having capacity to produce such things open new avenues and reduces your vulnerability to sanctions.

 

[Zarvan]

Then why China develops its own assault rifles? They have huge pocket, they can buy AKs from Russians?

Having capacity to produce such things open new avenues and reduces your vulnerability to sanctions.

Well because China is developing Good weapons they succeeded in doing so you failed only after few years you realized that INSAS didn't suit you than you also have miserable experience with your own Fighter Jet and not to mention Tank

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well because China is developing Good weapons they succeeded in doing so you failed only after few years you realized that INSAS didn't suit you than you also have miserable experience with your own Fighter Jet and not to mention Tank

What are you talking about, the INSASs problems were pretty much corrected. And pretty much every small arm had initial quirks.

And initially China didnt product world beating weapons at all. Still doesnt produce weapons on par with the US or other NATO members. But with each try, the next attempt is better.

BTW, India also had a miserable experience at first with it's ballistic missile program, but look where it's at now. It's a regular success and the developmental cycle is much shorter.

 

[HariPrasad]

What are you talking about, the INSASs problems were pretty much corrected. And pretty much every small arm had initial quirks.

And initially China didnt product world beating weapons at all. Still doesnt produce weapons on par with the US or other NATO members. But with each try, the next attempt is better.

BTW, India also had a miserable experience at first with it's ballistic missile program, but look where it's at now. It's a regular success and the developmental cycle is much shorter.

Do not answer him. He is not here for serious debate.

 

[DingDong]

Well because China is developing Good weapons they succeeded in doing so you failed only after few years you realized that INSAS didn't suit you than you also have miserable experience with your own Fighter Jet and not to mention Tank

INSAS took thousands of Pakistani lives during 1999 war. Our fighter jets and tanks have served us well.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Well because China is developing Good weapons they succeeded in doing so you failed only after few years you realized that INSAS didn't suit you than you also have miserable experience with your own Fighter Jet and not to mention Tank

You do know that INSAS is one of the most successfull A.R. in the late 20th century with over 1.5 millions of it have been manufactured till date and our entire Armed Forces(except the Rashtriya Rifles) are equipped with this rifle,plus it's also the standard A.R. for the Central Armed Police Forces.Heck nowadays even the state police forces are getting INSAS in large nos.So tell me,how can a rifle be called a failure when more than 1.5 millions of it has already been manufactured and distributed among the Indian security forces!!

 

[Zarvan]

You do know that INSAS is one of the most successfull A.R. in the late 20th century with over 1.5 millions of it have been manufactured till date and our entire Armed Forces(except the Rashtriya Rifles) are equipped with this rifle,plus it's also the standard A.R. for the Central Armed Police Forces.Heck nowadays even the state police forces are getting INSAS in large nos.So tell me,how can a rifle be called a failure when more than 1.5 millions of it has already been manufactured and distributed among the Indian security forces!!

Because within 15 years you are looking to change it and you are now testing 5 different guns to select one for your force

 

[kaykay]

Because within 15 years you are looking to change it and you are now testing 5 different guns to select one for your force

Well so does it means AKs are failure too? Every country modernise its defence force with time. We are no exception. New rifles will be of multi caliber which INSAS and AKs lack.

 

[Zarvan]

Well so does it means AKs are failure too? Every country modernise its defence force with time. We are no exception. New rifles will be of multi caliber which INSAS and AKs lack.

AKs are still in use every AK is in used for 40 years and now its new Models are coming up you in 15 years realized that INSAS is not good for you Indians learn to accept failures

 

[danger007]

AKs are still in use every AK is in used for 40 years and now its new Models are coming up you in 15 years realized that INSAS is not good for you Indians learn to accept failures

Hmm then why you guys upgrading f 16... INSAS is basic model..

 

[kaykay]

AKs are still in use every AK is in used for 40 years and now its new Models are coming up you in 15 years realized that INSAS is not good for you Indians learn to accept failures

Well It will be good if you Pakistanis will learn to comprehend something first before preaching someone else.
India is gonna replace both AKs and INSAS because they both have their limitations. AKs are with COINs forces while INSAS is a standard rifle for infantry. Multi caliber guns will solve this problem of using 2 types of guns for different roles as just by changing calibers, one can use it in different roles.
And also being in service with 40 countries have nothing to do with modernisation. Those who can't afford to modernise its army will have no option but to use basic AKs as they are cheapest.

 

[hkdas]

AKs are still in use every AK is in used for 40 years and now its new Models are coming up you in 15 years realized that INSAS is not good for you Indians learn to accept failures

insas is much better than G3 used by pakistan army... do you know your G3 will get jammed at temperature of 5 degree!! meanwhile INSAS is used in siachen with much successfully. they why did PA still use G3??..... indian army's requirements are much higher that the DRDO can't make such a weapon in their 1st time.. so they developed Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System (MCIWS) with IA's current requirements... apart from that OFB is improving INSAS.... the INSAS 1B1 and 1B2 are the latest model with improvements... indian army's current requirement is a AR with multi caliber rifle that is why DRDO develop MCIWS.

 

[Zarvan]

insas is much better than G3 used by pakistan army... do you know your G3 will get jammed at temperature of 5 degree!! meanwhile INSAS is used in siachen with much successfully. they why did PA still use G3??..... indian army's requirements are much higher that the DRDO can't make such a weapon in their 1st time.. so they developed Multi Caliber Individual Weapon System (MCIWS) with IA's current requirements... apart from that OFB is improving INSAS.... the INSAS 1B1 and 1B2 are the latest model with improvements... indian army's current requirement is a AR with multi caliber rifle that is why DRDO develop MCIWS.

We are still using G 3 because we are shot off money other wise we would change this Gun