DRDO claims it can develop PAK FA technologies itself

[punit]

So DODO strikes once gain . If anything goes wrong blame will fall on IAF.

DODO should be closed down immediately and all devision except misslie should be sold some as scrap.

 

[The Accountant]

Components like what? Digital Fly by wire system? Carbon composite body? Avionics? The two major components which we import for LCA is the engine and radar. AESA Uttam radar is currently being integrated to Tejas as we speak and it will fly using a Kaveri engine during next air show in Bangalore.

So you are talking about heart and brain of the aircraft being imported one ,,,

furthermore, don't we know that radar and engines are in development since 3 decades

 

[AyanRay]

So you are talking about heart and brain of the aircraft being imported one ,,,

furthermore, don't we know that radar and engines are in development since 3 decades

The brain of the plane is its avionics/software which is developed here in India. And yes, we have been developing a jet engine for 3 decades, just like any other country who produces fighter jets, and now we can actually try it out on a fighter jet. Regarding the radar, DRDO has been able to develop and produce a wide variety of radars including AWACS. Uttam has been a recent development and its already been integrated in a LCA jet.

 

[The Accountant]

We will see when you tall claims come to reality

The brain of the plane is its avionics/software which is developed here in India. And yes, we have been developing a jet engine for 3 decades, just like any other country who produces fighter jets, and now we can actually try it out on a fighter jet. Regarding the radar, DRDO has been able to develop and produce a wide variety of radars including AWACS. Uttam has been a recent development and its already been integrated in a LCA jet.

 

[Windjammer]

@Windjammer

When we started Tejas... our defense sector was not as robust as it is today... you can make fun of Tejas but it did helped us in creating an aviation industry and confidence to develop fighter jets on our own... the involvement of private sector will enhance it further...

We have lost the opportunity of developing aviation industry by not moving forward on the stepping stone set by HAL Marut... but we should not repeat those mistakes now...

Rejection of Tejas by Navy is due to lack of endurance and weight... IAF is in process of including them their inventory...

P.S.:
If you could feel proud for having rejected fighter of a country... just imagine how do we feel after designing and developing one at our own...

No one is making fun of Tejas, it's just that after two decades, most aircraft are near completion of their life cycle while Tejas will be just entering service.
As for the last lines, let me remind you, every country has it's own operational requirements in place, one could argue that while the J-10 is serving in front line service of PLAAF, it was however earlier turned down by the PAF, similarly both the SU-7 and MiG-21 were turned down when offered by Soviets back in 1969, however they both served or serving in IAF for some 50 years.
And not sure what pride are you talking about in the design and development of this project.

The sad tale of the LCA
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jan/13nad.htm

 

[BHarwana]

If DRDO is capable of developing fifth generation technologies then something like the Gripen , F-16 or even the Rafale should be like a second line production for it.

If DRDO can develop 5th gen then Tajes would not be a problem for India. The rejection of Tejas is a proof that they are liars. It is very simple to understand.

 

[kalakaar]

No one is making fun of Tejas, it's just that after two decades, most aircraft are near completion of their life cycle while Tejas will be just entering service.
As for the last lines, let me remind you, every country has it's own operational requirements in place, one could argue that while the J-10 is serving in front line service of PLAAF, it was however earlier turned down by the PAF, similarly both the SU-7 and MiG-21 were turned down when offered by Soviets back in 1969, however they both served or serving in IAF for some 50 years.
And not sure what pride are you talking about in the design and development of this project.

The sad tale of the LCA

Building aircraft is not a paint job. You need to develop new materials for both mechanical and electronic applications. India has learnt to develop single crystal and polycrystal materials. The coating of frost like membrane over a another single crystal is a very complex process, which we know how to do. This would further help us in space technologies and other sort of usage. Also in supercomputation.

 

[AyanRay]

No one is making fun of Tejas, it's just that after two decades, most aircraft are near completion of their life cycle while Tejas will be just entering service.

The French will be hearth broken hearing you. Rafale first flew in the year 1986, its development phase started during 1970s and only in 2001 was this plane inducted. So by your logic, Rafale should already have been retired.
The point is, if you are building a quality product, it will take time and money, but if you are building garbage, you can do that in 5 years with just USD500 MM budget.

 

[Windjammer]

The French will be hearth broken hearing you. Rafale first flew in the year 1986, its development phase started during 1970s and only in 2001 was this plane inducted. So by your logic, Rafale should already have been retired.
The point is, if you are building a quality product, it will take time and money, but if you are building garbage, you can do that in 5 years with just USD500 MM budget.

Lol, now you are comparing your Tejas with Rafale.
First enlighten your self as what happened between 1970 and 1986.....initially France was one of the party in the Consortium for the Euro fighter, it pulled out and went solo with the design and development of a next generation aircraft, to equip French Air force and Navy in the 2000s unlike your last generation Tejas which was meant to enter service and replace the MiGs in the 90s.

 

[Mrc]

This contract shud b immediately given to DRDO under make in india

 

[Ajaxpaul]

DRDO doesn't have any accountability. How can they make a 5th gen plane ?

Sorry DRDO cannot do it.

 

[Rajesh Singh]

No one is making fun of Tejas, it's just that after two decades, most aircraft are near completion of their life cycle while Tejas will be just entering service.
As for the last lines, let me remind you, every country has it's own operational requirements in place, one could argue that while the J-10 is serving in front line service of PLAAF, it was however earlier turned down by the PAF, similarly both the SU-7 and MiG-21 were turned down when offered by Soviets back in 1969, however they both served or serving in IAF for some 50 years.
And not sure what pride are you talking about in the design and development of this project.

The sad tale of the LCA
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jan/13nad.htm

I don't think, we are still living in 2001....

 

[AMCA]

Oh boy !! hope they stick to their words this time !! but yeah like the IAF says 25% workshare is unacceptable. I would rather have these technologies developed inhouse.

DRDO doesn't have any accountability. How can they make a 5th gen plane ?

Sorry DRDO cannot do it.

Accountability in govt departments in 100000000 times more than what it is in private companies. Its the overaccountability thats choking govt staffs. A mistake in Private company means he will loose his job but if that happens in a Govt company, he will be suspended with a case filed against him, his entire pay calculations will be downsized, his pensions will be at stake, no arrears, withdrawal of allowances and many more.

CAG, CBI and Court are the main reason why many of our beloved scientists(who have no administrative knowlege) fear to take a decesion. Which is the reason why most of our projects are delayed. A decesion in a govt office is taken with atmost caution and post taking into account all factors.

You cannot be productive in such an environment.

 

[MimophantSlayer]

If DRDO is capable of developing fifth generation technologies then something like the Gripen , F-16 or even the Rafale should be like a second line production for it.

DRDO can make a 5th generation fighter.
That doesn't mean IAF should wait until 2030 for AMCA while not inducting anything.

No one is making fun of Tejas, it's just that after two decades, most aircraft are near completion of their life cycle while Tejas will be just entering service.
As for the last lines, let me remind you, every country has it's own operational requirements in place, one could argue that while the J-10 is serving in front line service of PLAAF, it was however earlier turned down by the PAF, similarly both the SU-7 and MiG-21 were turned down when offered by Soviets back in 1969, however they both served or serving in IAF for some 50 years.
And not sure what pride are you talking about in the design and development of this project.

The sad tale of the LCA
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jan/13nad.htm

Dassault consulted, that doesn't mean they did all of the work.
Tejas haters also conveniently forget that majority of Tejas' development work was withheld by the Americans after the sanctions and we had to do it all over again.

Just so you know, the design and development of a fighter aircraft happens all throughout its life.
Were we wasting our money on facilities like wind tunnels, etc if it wasn't for design and development?

It seems one really needs a 17 year old article to enforce one's bias.

 

[Mrc]

This contract shud go to DRDO... it will be extreme injustice not to...


I will personally protest in streets