Doubts arise about Indian ABM

[illusion8]

Still, it is justice and eventually it will get better


Still, it is justice and eventually it will get better

Thank god for small mercies. If you ask me..That's a callous approach and isn't going to change the system.

The perpetrators get away with such "audits" "investigative teams" taking years to submit their report, when in fact the team should be tasked to actively implement changes in the process....not submit reports after years.

 

[bdslph]

unless they do a lot of testing they will not know
even USA had a hard time making one

 

[CalmDown@all_Dude]

India's air defense network has two principal components - the Air Defense Ground Environment System ( ADGES ) and the Base Air Defense Zones ( BADZ ). The ADGES network provides for wide area radar coverage and permits the detection and interception of most aerial incursions into Indian airspace. The BADZ system, however, is far more concentrated with radars, interceptors, SAMs and AAA units working in conjunction to provide an intense and highly effective defensive barrier to attacks on vital targets.
Which means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordfish_Long_Range_Tracking_Radar

AS FOR pakistani ICBM OR even Chinese one
An ICBM in ballistic flight constantly changes speed and altitude, so it's incorrect to think of a steady speed or altitude. A two- or three-stage booster burns for a few minutes, and accelerates the payload to a velocity of 6-7 km/sec . Once the payload escapes the Earth’s velocity they travel in a normal projectile motion parabola for about 20 minutes, reaching a maximum height of about 1,000km.

From this height the warheads makes a re entry into the atmosphere . The terminal velocity of re-entry vehicle (warhead) of the ICBM depends on atmospheric entry angle and certain individual boost phase parameters.Air resistance slows down the speed of the warheads from 6-7 km/sec and this depends on the warhead’s size and weight because the rate of slowing from air resistance increases with the warhead’s size and weight.


Giving ENOUGH TIME TO track it with help of awacs ,satellite, and gbr for that case and since it is a two tyre defence macahinsm with other sub parts integrated such as akash ,s400 etc IT is a potent system ITHINK

 

[Cool_Soldier]

We must not underestimate this Indian ABM development whether it is total failure or accurate system.
We must have counter measure to deliver deep strike options and should also focus on ABM development to stop Aggressive attacks from enemy side.

 

[RedStar86]

what really bothers me is that this drags the area to an arm race that makes the area unstable.
another witness that india is influenced by the american mind.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

For what reason? DRDO has been transparent about even the indigenous content of it's platforms, when it doesnt need to. It can hide away it's failures like several other countries do, but it doesn't.

One of the few that should be questioned. The ones that should be questioned are countries with 100% success stories, even with a joke of a military budget, let alone overall R&D budget. That has a defence and aero industry, but nothing else to speak of. That needs most of it's certifications done for it's platforms, outside the country.

The same can be said about Indian research institutions too. India too has suspiciously 100% success rate in few areas while being utter failure in all others.

If Mangalyaan and Chandrayaan missions were real, why is India unable to create lesser products?

USA faked the moon-landing in 1969. Did India do the same about Mars and Lunar space missions?

How would you explain that while India claims to travel such enormous distance in outer space but is unable to create products requiring much less ingenuity like military arms and equipments, mobile phones, computers, better trains, nuclear power plants, online social network, medicines, softwares etc?

How would you explain why India is still dependent on crap Russian technology for military items and nuclear power plant? The agreement for Kudankulam nuclear power plant was signed in early 1990s. But then came the dismantling of Soviet Union and the project was suspended for at least a decade. Why couldn’t Indians finish it on their own?

All this gives rise to suspicion. Indians didn’t produce this little above said things. How the hell they achieved Mangalyaan and Chandrayaan?

What happened to the promise of indigenous development of Light Combat Aircraft, Tejas? In 1986 an agreement was quietly signed with the United States that permitted DRDO to work with four US Air force laboratories. The to-be-indigenously-developed engine for the LCA -- Kaveri -- was forgotten and the US made General Electric F-404 engine was substituted. Radar was sourced from Erricson Ferranti, carbon-fibre composite panels for wings from Alenia and fly-by-wire controls from Lockheed Martin. Design help was sought from British Aerospace, Avion Marcel Dassault and Deutsche Aerospace. Wind tunnel testing was done in the US, Russia and France. As for armaments -- missiles, guns, rockets and bombs -- every last item was to be imported.

 

[Safriz]

Comparison of speeds at first 5 seconds of Launch.
Abdali , PDV , Shaheen-3

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[amardeep mishra]

So Ministry analyst saying that DRDO may have detonated target missiles with remote control than actually hitting them......is not expression of doubt?

Hi Shaheen missile!
It is not really wise to mould someone's else words to paint an entirely different picture. Articles like these regularly appear in indian media to shape up public opinion regarding various weapons program. Now the main point the article was trying to allude to was that the Indian MoD is merely trying to "audit" the whole BMD program in terms of milestones achieved. I am afraid "audit of pakistani defence program" is something no go zone for anyone in the world.
Now the major general who raised the particular doubt of fuze being triggered remotely is completely oblivious to the test videos available on internet and published research. A lot of major generals are simply not too educated in research and development of defence systems. There are various test videos available that testify the authenticity of DRDO's BMDs. However what remains to be seen is the performance of indian BMD against solid fueled IRBMs. This can only be achieved if they demonstrate it against either agni-1 or agni2 class of missiles.
Also,we must acknowledge the evolution of Indian BMD interceptors-- from plain prithvi based intereceptor to solid fueled interceptor which retained the same aerodynamic layout of privhvi to a all composite exo atmospheric interceptor with thrust vectoring. These are some of the advancements that has been accomplished by DRDL/ASL and RCI.

 

[Shajida Khan]

what really bothers me is that this drags the area to an arm race that makes the area unstable.
another witness that india is influenced by the american mind.

Let us see who has brought the specter of nuclear arms in the region. It was China!
Who is arming the fastest in the region, it is China!
Who is encroaching the international waters, disregarding global community, China Again!

Chinese should shut up when it comes to Arms race and de-stabilization, the are the biggest perpetrator.

 

[NirmalKrish]

The slow coach called Prithvi Pdv must be slowest ABM in the world, looks more like a pretend ABM.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, we can go with that logic! keep thinking that our ABM is a flawed system... I would rather you be left lingering in a utter state of denial, rather than looking at proactive countermeasures. It works to our advantage! and yes your systems are world class, best of the best! yarda yarda yarda...

 

[aswin]

the brownie point thread with no point.. test your own abm first before lectures.. key point being your OWN

 

[Ultima Thule]

Whatever helps you sleep at night, we can go with that logic! keep thinking that our ABM is a flawed system... I would rather you be left lingering in a utter state of denial, rather than looking at proactive countermeasures. It works to our advantage! and yes your systems are world class, best of the best! yarda yarda yarda...

sorry to burst your bubbles kid Better than US Mid-course missile defense system which can only destroyed less than 50 ICBM of the enemies your system definitely is worst than that and if your PAAD and AAD that super than why you are buying S-400 from Russia

 

[NirmalKrish]

sorry to burst your bubbles kid Better than US Mid-course missile defense system which can only destroyed less than 50 ICBM of the enemies your system definitely is worst than that and if your PAAD and AAD that super than why you are buying S-400 from Russia

S400 is not really Pakistani focused stop putting yourself in the limelight as always, that is for you know who. kiddo all we need to do is station half our assests on the LOC and it will get your generals to wet their pants so please.

 

[Sine Nomine]

S400 is not really Pakistani focused stop putting yourself in the limelight as always, that is for you know who. kiddo all we need to do is station half our assests on the LOC and it will get your generals to wet their pants so please.

Why not Munna,you should order full mobilization that will make them pee.
For your information on LOC,both sides have deployed full forces in there AOR.

 

[Ultima Thule]

S400 is not really Pakistani focused stop putting yourself in the limelight as always, that is for you know who. kiddo all we need to do is station half our assests on the LOC and it will get your generals to wet their pants so please.[/QUOTE\]
I am just asking to you that your AAD and PAAD is better US Mid course missile defense system, Arrow-3 ,if it is then why you buying S-400 oh I forget your AAD and PAAD is out of this universe 1000000+ generation advanced weapons system than those system

S400 is not really Pakistani focused stop putting yourself in the limelight as always, that is for you know who. kiddo all we need to do is station half our assests on the LOC and it will get your generals to wet their pants so please.

And it is not a invincible system it can easily overwhelmed by swarm of UAV or we will buy Chinese copy of Harpy suicide drone with anti radiation heads
And i am just asking you to that your AAD and PAAD is better system than US Mid course missile defense system and arrow-3, oh I forget your AAD and PAAD is out of this universe 10000000+generation ahead of those system