Don’t give info, cover will be blown, former head of Army covert unit writes to Parrikar

[uparyupari]

..What about the LEAKS done on this forum...??

All debates are on open source info. No leaks to my knowledge.

 

[duhastmish]

LOL..... I am not disagreeing.

I do not wish to fight for a 1000 years, its better to finish them off when we have the chance. Best way is to keep fomenting trouble inside pakistan that will tie them up forever. Start 10,000 small fires.

China cannot be handled that way. US and the West is already doing their best to stir up trouble there. We need to handle china differently.

If Pakistan collapse?
Won't that be worst and their ISI and army take over country yet again. They are major problem a few people in those organisations.

I think the best way is to make people believe in democrAcy and keep dialogue running. May be we can easily pursue them to a reasonable solution of peace. That is status quo.
And save innocent civilians?

 

[uparyupari]

If Pakistan collapse?
Won't that be worst and their ISI and army take over country yet again. They are major problem a few people in those organisations.

I think the best way is to make people believe in democrAcy and keep dialogue running. May be we can easily pursue them to a reasonable solution of peace. That is status quo.
And save innocent civilians?

LOL. Pakistan has already collapsed ........ a LONG time back. Its being artificially propped up by US and China.

ISI and army already run the country, the civilian govt. is just a puppet and a front man for them.

Democracy has no real chance in pakistan. It will continue to be a military run state, an Army with a nation. The most "reasonable" solution with them is to help them collapse completely.

The only innocent civilians I am worried about is Indian civilians. Everything else is expendable.

 

[Kinetic]

LOL..... I am not disagreeing.

I do not wish to fight for a 1000 years, its better to finish them off when we have the chance. Best way is to keep fomenting trouble inside pakistan that will tie them up forever. Start 10,000 small fires.

China cannot be handled that way. US and the West is already doing their best to stir up trouble there. We need to handle china differently.

I am telling you the greatest secret, we always need an enemy to fight. remember this words, otherwise we will fight ourselves.

 

[uparyupari]

I am telling you the greatest secret, we always need an enemy to fight. remember this words, otherwise we will fight ourselves.

If history is any guide, there will never be any shortage of that

 

[Kinetic]

If history is any guide, there will never be any shortage of that

Yes, but a weak enemy is always.... good.

 

[uparyupari]

Yes, but a weak enemy is always.... good.

If they are weak, they will not longer be an enemy

They will become a friend and a good neighbour.

 

[Kinetic]

If they are weak, they will not longer be an enemy

They will become a friend and a good neighbour.

NO, not always. if the idea of enmity is based on anti-India. they will never agree. it will be always there...

for example, think like this...... tomorrow gujarat, punjab and rajasthan made a new country and named it Gupisthan. lol. What will be there identity as a county? Anti-Indiasm right.... Because there is nothing left for them to make together Gujarat, Punjab and Rajasthan. I think you got it. so anti indiasm should be always there.

 

[duhastmish]

LOL. Pakistan has already collapsed ........ a LONG time back. Its being artificially propped up by US and China.

ISI and army already run the country, the civilian govt. is just a puppet and a front man for them.

Democracy has no real chance in pakistan. It will continue to be a military run state, an Army with a nation. The most "reasonable" solution with them is to help them collapse completely.

The only innocent civilians I am worried about is Indian civilians. Everything else is expendable.

Same can be said about india. There is terror in valley, most of northeast have some sort of struggle, then Maoist and South Indian issues I.e states against each other even fight to not give water which is basic requirement. Punjab had trouble . Then corruption , sick politics, lack of jobs and education,infra problem, rich poor divide , racism regionalism castism religious fanatics , law & order , crime, sex ratio , lack of female empowerment , lack of basic hygiene, lack of healthcare , old age homes, lack of food, population , foreign relations,lack of transparency, babu system with bribery , defence is lacking with no decision making, lack of industrialisation , surrounded with enemy , khap or no khap, media rationalism , list is long I can keep going.

But still it's crawling or walking or running . We can say same about Pakistan times change. I hope to have A reasonable solution which is status quo with peace and prosperity.

 

[uparyupari]

NO, not always. if the idea of enmity is based on anti-India. they will never agree. it will be always there...

for example, think like this...... tomorrow gujarat, punjab and rajasthan made a new country and named it Gupisthan. lol. What will be there identity as a county? Anti-Indiasm right.... Because there is nothing left for them to make together Gujarat, Punjab and Rajasthan. I think you got it. so anti indiasm should be always there.

Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies.

The weak has a million enemies, the strong has a million friends.

Same can be said about india. There is terror in valley, most of northeast have some sort of struggle, then Maoist and South Indian issues I.e states against each other even fight to not give water which is basic requirement. Punjab had trouble . Then corruption , sick politics, lack of jobs and education,infra problem, rich poor divide , racism regionalism castism religious fanatics , law & order , crime, sex ratio , lack of female empowerment , lack of basic hygiene, lack of healthcare , old age homes, lack of food, population , foreign relations,lack of transparency, babu system with bribery , defence is lacking with no decision making, lack of industrialisation , surrounded with enemy , khap or no khap, media rationalism , list is long I can keep going.

But still it's crawling or walking or running . We can say same about Pakistan times change. I hope to have A reasonable solution which is status quo with peace and prosperity.

LOL ......... you can keep going, but that will only be a small bit and pieces of a HUGE India. OTOH pakistans failure as a state is a reality. If US and China withdraw their support, it will collapse one itself. It survives by allowing these nations to kill its own citizens and subjecting their citizens and property into servitude to china.

But you are free to lament in your pitiful corner. Not too many Indians agree with you

You are free to be delusional and stupid. Its a free country

 

[Kinetic]

Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies.

The weak has a million enemies, the strong has a million friends.

BD is a single entity unlike Pakistan which is composite of Punjab, Sinfh, Balochistan and NWFP. So BD not even worthy to play with as an enemy, its so small and too weak.

 

[uparyupari]

BD is a single entity unlike Pakistan which is composite of Punjab, Sinfh, Balochistan and NWFP. So BD not even worthy to play with as an enemy, its so small and too weak.

BD is not an enemy because it does not see India as an Enemy.

IT is more interested in keeping an open border with India to enable its citizens to jump ship.

BD is a small and weak enemy, but it is a large and strong Friend. Let us not confuse the issue.

 

[Kinetic]

BD is not an enemy because it does not see India as an Enemy.

IT is more interested in keeping an open border with India to enable its citizens to jump ship.

BD is a small and weak enemy, but it is a large and strong Friend. Let us not confuse the issue.

but you said, "Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies. "

 

[duhastmish]

Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies.

The weak has a million enemies, the strong has a million friends.



LOL ......... you can keep going, but that will only be a small bit and pieces of a HUGE India. OTOH pakistans failure as a state is a reality. If US and China withdraw their support, it will collapse one itself. It survives by allowing these nations to kill its own citizens and subjecting their citizens and property into servitude to china.

But you are free to lament in your pitiful corner. Not too many Indians agree with you

You are free to be delusional and stupid. Its a free country

I thought you are stupid but you are fooking idiot.

Pakistan is not dead it's running still. Any way ....,.,,

 

[uparyupari]

but you said, "Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies. "

errr yes. Where is the contradiction ?

We do not view BD as an enemy state, BD does not view India as an enemy state out to get it.

I thought you are stupid but you are fooking idiot.

Pakistan is not dead it's running still. Any way ....,.,,

LOL...... name calling means you lost the plot.

If pakistan was dead what was the need for killing it ? ....... its is still running which is why we need to implode it from within.

 

[Kinetic]

errr yes. Where is the contradiction ?

We do not view BD as an enemy state, BD does not view India as an enemy state out to get it.

Thats why I said there is no question of BD, there was no need to bring BD here as it doesn't comply with discussion, as you said, "Why is BD not an Enemy ? the same logic applies. "

The same logic doesn't apply.