Doctors’ strike: Day 11 - PMA endorses demands, not strike

[Jango]

The Pakistan Medical Association (PMA) while refusing, on Thursday, to condemn or support the ongoing strike called by the Young Doctors Association (YDA) said it supported the demand for a new service structure.
PMA office bearers, along with representatives from 17 sister organisations, announced at the Lahore Press Club that senior doctors would not treat anybody at the VIP Wards in public hospitals.
Speaking at the press conference Dr Ashraf Nizami, the association’s Punjab president, claimed the Punjab government, through advertisements in newspapers, was misleading people about doctors’ salaries.
Dr Nizami, when asked if the association agreed with the YDA’s strike call, replied, “My association didn’t give the call for the strike. We neither condemn nor support it. However, the PMA –the mother association of doctors – supports the demand for a service structure.” He described the draft submitted to the Health Department as “a demand that all the medical community agrees upon.” The association’s Punjab president remarked that an additional secretary or a special secretary were not the right people to hold the negotiations. Senior politicians should help end the crisis, he said.
He warned the government against taking any action against protesting doctors and vowed to resist government’s efforts to “suppress” them. The association said it would resort to protests across the Punjab if the government did not initiate a “serious dialogue” to meet their demands.
He then slammed the government for the lack of proper facilities in public hospitals, “If we go by the book, not even a single operation can be performed at public hospitals.” Dr Nizami said the doctors had never complained about the conditions they were working in.The PMA’s Lahore president Dr Tanveer Anwar said the young doctors had given the call without consulting them. “They have done it before and have done it again. We condemn those who called the strike and we condemn the indifferent attitude of bureaucracy,” he added.
Dr Tariq Mian, the Pakistan Academy of Family Physicians president, said the government had forced the doctors to take to the streets.
The Young Doctors Association (YDA) Punjab, meanwhile, held a protest at the Jinnah Hospital, shouting slogans against the government and vowing to continue their “struggle” until their demand for a service structure was met. Health Department officials told The Express Tribune that the government was trying to somehow open Outpatient Departments (OPDs) of public hospitals. An official said senior officials had met on Thursday and proposed that senior doctors be asked to work at OPDs so that the patients do not suffer.
Published in The Express Tribune, June 29th, 2012

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Some points here:

1- The doctors are demanding that they directly go into grade 17/18, which is next to impossible. Because then everybody else will also demand that they directly be inducted in higher grades.

2- They are demanding higher pay. Even though they got higher pay last year or the one before that, after similar ruckus. They are treating themselves as kings. From where will the government get enough money to fulfill their demands every year?

3- I remember that there was a strike by doctors somewhere (Uk i think), and the doctors negotiated with the postal service, that the postal service goes on strike rather than doctor, this way no patient will die.

This is highly un-ethical by the doctors, to go on strike whenever they wish, and putting the lives of the patients in danger. A murder can also be registered against these doctors according to the law, and this is also against their oath. OPD's are closed, and patients are just sitting there.

These egoistic doctors should get some sense in them, and adopt another way of protest, rather than closing OPD's and going on strike.

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Young doctors’ strike challenged in LHC.

An old program by Talat, on the previous strike. There was another one, it was much better, and Talat absolutely ripped apart the young man, who was totally without any substance.

News Night with Talat Hussain Dawn news 19 April 2012 | News Night with Talat Hussain Dawn news 19 April 2012 | Zahi Corner

Note: I am not a N-leaguer or anything!

I recommend you people to definitely watch the last link i gave you, the Talat Hussain program video.

 

[Fracker]

un-ethical is one thing but All Doctors on strike should be arrested and putted into the jail for doing something against their oath.

These days all doctors are getting one of the best pay in any department. Even engineers are getting less than them, and that too after twice raise in pay for last 3 years straight.

Edit: Why exactly Punjab Government given them 3 days, they should be arrested since 10 days were already passed.

 

[Jango]

At 8:20, the doctors get exposed. 8:20 of the first video.

un-ethical is one thing but All Doctors on strike should be arrested and putted into the jail for doing something against their oath.

These days all doctors are getting one of the best pay in any department. Even engineers are getting less than them, and that too after twice raise in pay for last 3 years straight.

A petition has been presented in LHC.

They can be charged with attempted murder according to the law. Heard it yesterday.

 

[Pukhtoon]

Modz merge both threads...

http://www.defence.pk/forums/current-events-social-issues/191250-yeh-kaise-maseehayeee.html

On topic as i said in the other thread

Shame on these Dogs terminate them and give them the punishment which they are giving to the poor people..

Hire Doctors from Peshawar Karachi Etc.....

 

[Pukhtoon]

LAHORE: The deadlock between the Punjab government and the protesting Young Doctors’ Association (YDA) took a dramatic turn Saturday as the government reached a decision to sack all medical workers on strike.

However, the administration may have found a solution to the severe healthcare crisis being faced by the province.

Upon Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s request, the Army has announced that it will give 150 of its doctors to the provincial government to cover up for those on strike.

The Army doctors will start their services from Sunday, and will be performing their duties in uniform at the public hospitals.

According to the military spokesperson, doctors of the armed forces will not bear responsibility for operational matters, which would be handled by the provincial government.

Government hospitals in Punjab, the country’s most densely populated province, have been facing a critical shortage of medical workers since the YDA started its protest. As a result, poor patients, who were left unattended, have had to bear the brunt of the strike at public hospitals across the province for the last 13 days.

The Punjab government had increased the salaries of the doctors last year but they also demanded improvement in service structure too. The doctors demanded their recruitment directly into Basic Pay Scale (BPS-18) besides facilities including house, telephone, five advance increments, two special allowances for professors – teaching allowance and health professional allowance – both equal to their running basic salary.

They also demanded soft loans for cars for BPS-18 doctors, 1,000cc cars with petrol and driver for BPS-20 and 1,300cc vehicles for all doctors in BPS-21 with driver and petrol.

“The financial position of the provincial government does not allow us to increase the salaries and fringe benefits of doctors especially seniors who were already earning more from their private clinics and hospitals,” Special Assistant to the Punjab Chief Minister for Health, Khawaja Salman Rafique had told Dawn earlier this week. “If accepted, the demands will cost the government an additional Rs17 billion in non-development expenditure.”

Earlier on Thursday, the Punjab government had also invoked the Essential Services Act of 1958 for Health Department employees. Under the act, the doctors are bound to be present at the place of duty and any violation is considered a crime, he said.

Opposition urges Shahbaz to resolve issue through dialogue

Meanwhile, Opposition Leader in the Punjab Assembly Raja Riaz Ahmad has urged Chief Minister Mian Shahbaz Sharif to resolve the issue of young doctors through dialogue.

Talking to the media outside the Governor’s House on Saturday, he said that threatening of imprisonment and imposing section 144 on doctors had exposed the authoritarian thinking of the Punjab CM.

He warned the Punjab government that the situation could worsen if the doctors were tortured or sent to jails as they were assets of the nation and they could not be cornered through stubborn attitude.

He urged the doctors and the CM to make their attitude flexible for the sake of poor patients.


Army comes to the rescue as Punjab sacks protesting doctors | DAWN.COM

Good move by the Govt of Punjab... BuCk those young Dogs