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Do you think Bangladesh would join Belt and Road Initiative without India?

Do you think Bangladesh would join Belt and Road Initiative without India

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 60.0%
  • No

    Votes: 14 40.0%

  • Total voters
    35
he was letter seen in washroom washing his face and refrwshing from smell of old rotten fish

You must be his personal acquaintance

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BD ought to find how the current debt ramp its taking from China pans out, before it commits to BRI (specifically the mid post part):
I don't think BD will take so much loan that it can't pay back later...

BD needs to carefully scrutinize what's in it for BD before committing any resources/efforts. However, officially being in it probably going to have some positive impact on BD-China relationship. As of now I can't see BD pulling out of it.
 
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Now that i am thinking about Indian influence in our politics, i think you are right.
I think BD will join. If they don't then Awami League will be wiped off from BD politics after 5-10 years if they directly work for Indian interest instead of BD interest. Situation has changed in BD.

Yes!
 
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SA countries should focus on attracting manufacturing companies that will eventually shift from china and attract FDI from chinese companies to open manufacturing plants in their countries. Signing up for projects like BRI/OBOR which only profits china will lead these countries in to a debt trap. India is doing really good in this field.
 
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he was letter seen in washroom washing his face and refrwshing from smell of old rotten fish

This time did he go through security check first? :P

I don't think BD will take so much loan that it can't pay back later...

and how did you come to that analysis?

I'm not talking about default per se, I'm talking more about debt-distress (esp the opportunity cost)...i.e the fever in a serious disease (whether it requires you to leave home to hospital in the end or not) does not change how badly that fever can affect the day to day stuff you would otherwise be doing.

BD should be focused on reform, reform, reform, rather than BBS, feelz, autocracy. Then only BD financial and banking sector can grow both quantitatively and qualitatively to handle the current ramp (and the larger economic forces) down the road.

BD needs to carefully scrutinize what's in it for BD before committing any resources/efforts. However, officially being in it probably going to have some positive impact on BD-China relationship. As of now I can't see BD pulling out of it.

Sure being a member with no real commitment is best (while you work through the stuff you get outside of it more relevant to you etc). It is like being de facto observer for now. BRI in its concept really doesnt have much to offer BD tbh, its all about larger integration of logistics w.r.t Chinese market/suppliers....India and Myanmar for differing reasons will not really do it with BD under this aegis....BD will handle all of this hedged and independently and outside BRI w.r.t China, India, Myanmar others.....given BD is largely going to focusing on the sea lanes (and relevant infra) to get connected to China.
 
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I wonder Abbasi is CM of which country? KSA or some other country. Proudly sharing seat with his same level of official.

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Man, this behasin Hasina is besharam behayaa for sure. She loathe on Pakistan everybody yet sit next to Pak personally at every chance. What’s up with that? :undecided:
 
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This time did he go through security check first? :P



and how did you come to that analysis?

I'm not talking about default per se, I'm talking more about debt-distress (esp the opportunity cost)...i.e the fever in a serious disease (whether it requires you to leave home to hospital in the end or not) does not change how badly that fever can affect the day to day stuff you would otherwise be doing.

BD should be focused on reform, reform, reform, rather than BBS, feelz, autocracy. Then only BD financial and banking sector can grow both quantitatively and qualitatively to handle the current ramp (and the larger economic forces) down the road.



Sure being a member with no real commitment is best (while you work through the stuff you get outside of it more relevant to you etc). It is like being de facto observer for now. BRI in its concept really doesnt have much to offer BD tbh, its all about larger integration of logistics w.r.t Chinese market/suppliers....India and Myanmar for differing reasons will not really do it with BD under this aegis....BD will handle all of this hedged and independently and outside BRI w.r.t China, India, Myanmar others.....given BD is largely going to focusing on the sea lanes (and relevant infra) to get connected to China.
BD is usually careful with borrowing. That's why you'll see BD's debt to GDP ratio is lower compared to most. Also BD take loans bit by bit. Chinese announced huge loan for BD when Xi visited...but only a small amount have been realised.....it's either BD's inefficiency or Chinese lack of trust but most of it are stuck in the pipeline. I think the loans will take years to fully(or close to it) materialise. Same with other loans too as well as line of credits. India announced a line of credit to BD of 1 or 2 billion...but BD hasn't really bought anything with it afaik. That's the trend with BD......I don't think they will end up borrowing over their limit.
 
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Nope i don't think so.

We shouldn't join

India is our bosom friend.

We should not do anything without consulting with our eternal friend.
 
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BD is usually careful with borrowing. That's why you'll see BD's debt to GDP ratio is lower compared to most. Also BD take loans bit by bit. Chinese announced huge loan for BD when Xi visited...but only a small amount have been realised.....it's either BD's inefficiency or Chinese lack of trust but most of it are stuck in the pipeline. I think the loans will take years to fully(or close to it) materialise. Same with other loans too as well as line of credits. India announced a line of credit to BD of 1 or 2 billion...but BD hasn't really bought anything with it afaik. That's the trend with BD......I don't think they will end up borrowing over their limit.

I am talking about the ramp compared to before....it has increased drastically for BD and has shifted from long-term to short term composition in a drastic way too (probably because long term looks at longer term things which are more resilient and thus restrictive if reform status quo permeates...i.e short term tends to bypass this more but at a premium too), with no real change in BD financial sector + bureaucracy reform:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ns-to-513-billion.552346/page-5#post-10400847

Can have a look for yourself:

http://datatopics.worldbank.org/debt/ids/country/BGD

This again will inevitably add distress over time if the much needed reforms do not come...because the credit slack argument is really not something one can really put a finger to the wind about, esp not with BD market cap and bond market staying largely the same size.

I am not talking about default per se, that takes a long period of distress to build up to a trigger mechanism. Hence the fever versus hospital analogy I used.
 
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@The Last Jedi, you forgot to mention
@The Ronin,
After all the Pakistani pm is sitting beside hasina wearing Mujib coat. ;)

Not surprising at all. Mujib was one of the most influencial political leaders in southeast Asia. Its quite obvious that small type leaders from other countries will try to emulate his style. Nothing wrong with that. :laugh:
 
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