Do you support New Russia or Ukraine?

[Brutas]

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On a side note, I think Mongols (Known in Russia as Tatars) were the only one that did brought Russia to it's knees !

 

[Superboy]

On a side note, I think Mongols (Known in Russia as Tatars) were the only one that did brought Russia to it's knees !

True, but no nation ever conquered Russia, just as no nation ever conquered China.

 

[Brutas]

True, but no nation ever conquered Russia, just as no nation ever conquered China.

Vast Russian territory was under Tatar yoke. So, yes they did conquer !

 

[Superboy]

Vast Russian territory was under Tatar yoke. So, yes they did conquer !

Taking over without imposing culture = no conquest. You might as well say Huns conquered Germany because all of Germany was part of the Hunnic empire whose capital was Budapest in Hungary.

Huns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Penguin]

As everything goes, nothing is perfect. Not even existing borders of countries. Only war and blood can correct mistakes and make borders more perfect than they currently are.

Be very happy that you live somewhere where there isn't a war. Cherish peace, because war is hell.

 

[Superboy]

Be very happy that you live somewhere where there isn't a war. Cherish peace, because war is hell.

War is hell for cowards. War is paradise for heroes like me.

 

[Penguin]

War is hell for cowards. War is paradise for heroes like me.

Right
So, when were you going to start taking your medication again .... ?

 

[AMDR]

War is hell for cowards. War is paradise for heroes like me.

Have you ever took contact?
Have you ever seen your friends get hurt or killed?
Have you ever been under constant mortar or artillery fire?
Have you ever not seen your family and friends for over a year?
Have you ever been driving down a road hoping there isn't a 155mm shell buried under your tire?

Just stop dude

 

[salarsikander]

Have you ever took contact?
Have you ever seen your friends get hurt or killed?
Have you ever been under constant mortar or artillery fire?
Have you ever not seen your family and friends for over a year?
Have you ever been driving down a road hoping there isn't a 155mm shell buried under your tire?

Just stop dude

This dude doesnt even have a clue of his origins, he's so much ashamed of his Chinese ancestry that he wont have Chinese Origin flag.
So its useless to talk to him

 

[hawk11]

Novo Russia

1. US dose not care about ukraine (this situation de stabilizes everyone in europe and russia) thus very good for USA
2. Ukraine are dumbassess Russia was their only major trading partner and they ruined it all
3. better a corrupt president like yanukovich, then war. Those who say otherwise, i dont think have seen what war is like
4. After the peace plan signed- the first to cast doubt on it and smear it was the US Media and state dept. obviously they dont want peace... ask your selves why?

 

[Gibbs]

Russia

Ukrainians or to be specific those in West Ukraine and those neo Nazi's just swallowed the derope the Americans gave them.. You cant needle your next door neighbor like Russia and expect to be left alone.. They should have known their place in the world.. No Western European or an American will shed blood for them.. All geo politics will leave Ukraine in Ruins.. Should have learnt from Georgia and Sarkashvilli that being a puppet of the West does not necessarily will make them allies

 

[Brutas]

Taking over without imposing culture = no conquest. You might as well say Huns conquered Germany because all of Germany was part of the Hunnic empire whose capital was Budapest in Hungary.

Huns - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Conquest is a conquest. Imposing culture is a different thing. Hungary was also under the Turks. But not much remains of their presence. Doesn't mean they didn't conquer. Romans conquered vast territory around Mediterranean but except a few ruins nothing remains to show their presence. List goes on...........

 

[vostok]

On a side note, I think Mongols (Known in Russia as Tatars) were the only one that did brought Russia to it's knees !

In fairness it should be noted that by the middle of the 13th century there was no unified Russian state, as in 9-12 centuries. There were dozens of feuding independent principalities.
And we write the "Tatar-Mongol yoke", not the "Tatar yoke".

 

[Penguin]

In fairness it should be noted that by the middle of the 13th century there was no unified Russian state, as in 9-12 centuries. There were dozens of feuding independent principalities.
And we write the "Tatar-Mongol yoke", not the "Tatar yoke".

Same for most of Europe. Nations states in Europe as we knwo them today are 1800-1900 origins

 

[vostok]

Same for most of Europe. Nations states in Europe as we knwo them today are 1800-1900 origins

I do not agree. Major European powers -Spain, England, France, Russia (all except Germany and Italy) completed the period of feudal fragmentation in the 15-16 centuries.