Do not give holy Jewish artifacts to a country that expelled its Jews

[SALMAN F]

so? ashkenazi/khazar jew types couldn't care less about them they are sacrificial lambs.

Khazar jews are lie and myth so stop repeating it

 

[Saif al-Arab]

So most of this imaginary "Greater Israel" is composed of KSA? Good to know!

@Solomon2

Those artifacts belong to Iraq and the 3 other Arab countries mentioned (Yemen, Egypt and Libya). Those people were/are Arab Jews. Nothing to do with an artificially created 70 year old country.

When are you going to make a thread about the 100.000's (if not millions) of artifacts stolen from the Arab world that are drawing millions of visitors to the most prestigious museums on the planet from the US to Europe?

What are ancient Arabian, Mesopotamian, Levantine, Egyptian etc. artifacts doing in the West in 2018?

Saudi Arabia retrieves 52,000 historical artefacts since 2011​

ARAB NEWS | Published — Sunday 22 October 2017

JEDDAH: The Saudi Commission for Tourism and National Heritage (SCTH) announced that it has successfully retrieved more than 52,000 artefacts from inside and outside the country as part of the National Project for Digital Recording of Antiquities, which follows international standards for archaeological recording and archiving.
The project aims to document and store all historic sites, artefacts, historical monument and urban heritage buildings in a comprehensive national digital registry linked to a multi-dimensional digital map, which is compatible with modern GIS technologies and digital databases, maps, images and graphics.
Director-General of Archiving and Protecting Antiquities at the SCTH, Naif Al-Qannour, said: “The new digital recording project stores detailed information and reports about 32,000 artefacts retrieved from outside the Kingdom and 20,000 returned by citizens to the SCTH since Prince Sultan bin Salman, president of SCTH, launched the campaign to retrieve national artefacts in 2011.”
“Some artefacts found their way outside Saudi Arabia through foreign travelers who moved them to other countries.” Al-Qannour continued, “One of the most famous artefacts is the Tayma Stone, which was discovered by Charles Huber and later on displayed at the Louvre Museum in Paris.”
He also explained that many employees of foreign companies, especially those who work in the oil industry, visited many parts of Saudi Arabia to study their geology and natural manifestations, collected the artefacts they found and took them to national museums at their home countries.
“Robbers of archaeological sites sometimes dig for archaeological treasures and achieve fast financial gains,” Al-Qannour said, “By doing so, they are destroying important archaeological evidence found in these sites, be it on land or in the sea.”
Al-Qannour stated that the SCTH will continue to work on retrieving and protecting artefacts and has released a red list of artefacts stolen from their sites inside Saudi Arabia and information about them in order to make them easier to identify. The SCTH has also announced handing financial rewards to those who return artefacts or report their loss or theft.
In 2011, Prince Sultan launched a campaign for retrieving national artefacts, including media and cultural programs and initiatives that aim to enlighten and inform citizens about the value of artefacts and the importance of returning them to the SCTH.
Recently, the SCTH released a list of 140 names of citizens who returned artefacts, reported archaeological sites or cooperated with the SCTH in protecting the country’s cultural heritage between 2013 and 2017 in order to honor them during the First Antiquities Forum, which will be launched under the patronage of King Salman, on Nov. 7 at the National Museum in Riyadh.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1181431/saudi-arabia

Tell me again about the non-Jewish heritage that Israel stores and have taken from the Palestinians after expelling them?

You pathetic hasbara. Doing nothing but obsessing about Arabs as the usual trolls do on PDF. You have that in common. The butthurt must be gigantic.

@SALMAN F

https://twitter.com/x/status/970928183569797120

@EgyptianAmerican @Gomig-21

@Taygibay comments?

Khazar jews are lie and myth so stop repeating it

It is a lie. Historically, genetically and using common sense.

 

[Azadkashmir]

Khazar jews are lie and myth so stop repeating it

how is it alie. Jews today that rule israel and USA are of Ashkenazim/ Khazar origin. That why white people call them communist Jews because they Russian born jew.

Do they look like brown arab jew? . Take alook at rothshcild and Rockfeller. Van dam himself exposes them.

 

[SALMAN F]

@SALMAN F

https://twitter.com/x/status/970928183569797120

@EgyptianAmerican @Gomig-21

@Taygibay comments?



It is a lie. Historically, genetically and using common sense.

https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/

Even david duke one of the most anti jewish out there admitted that the jews are not khazars he could use the khazar myth against israel since he us anti jewish person yet he saud the truth the the Ashkenazi jews and khazar connections is a myth

how is it alie. Jews today that rule israel and USA are of Ashkenazim/ Khazar origin. That why white people call them communist Jews because they Russian born jew.

Do they look like brown arab jew? . Take alook at rothshcild and Rockfeller. Van dam himself exposes them.

Are you stupid or what jews are different from each other's because they got mixed in every area that they landed but they belong to the same ancestry


Just like the arabs in North Africa and egypt look different from the indonisian arabs who look Asian or the south Asian arabs who look exactly like Indians and Pakistanis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_India

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians

 

[Saif al-Arab]

how is it alie. Jews today that rule israel and USA are of Ashkenazim/ Khazar origin. That why white people call them communist Jews because they Russian born jew.

Do they look like brown arab jew? . Take alook at rothshcild and Rockfeller. Van dam himself exposes them.

Arabs are Caucasian people. In fact the white race/Caucasian race emerged in the Middle East during the Neolithic period when farming was invented by our ancestors. BCC had a nice article about this recently.

Google;

Cheddar Man: DNA shows early Briton had dark skin
By Paul RinconScience editor, BBC News website

A quote from the link that I somehow cannot post (BBC is not working on PDF I see);

"Pale skin probably arrived in Britain with a migration of people from the Middle East around 6,000 years ago. This population had pale skin and brown eyes and absorbed populations like the ones Cheddar Man belonged to.

No-one's entirely sure why pale skin evolved in these farmers, but their cereal-based diet was probably deficient in Vitamin D. This would have required agriculturalists to synthesise this essential nutrient in their skin using sunlight.

"There may be other factors that are causing lower skin pigmentation over time in the last 10,000 years. But that's the big explanation that most scientists turn to," said Prof Thomas."​

How the average Briton (your new homeland) looked liked 10.000 years ago. (300 generations ago):



@SALMAN F



We come in all colors ranging from pale, olive skin, light brown, brown and dark brown. That is why you can find ginger Bedouins and Bedouins with blue and green eyes in Arabia, Sinai, Iraq, Sham, Sahara and the Rub' al-Khali.

I suggest reading about the facial descriptions of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and countless of other Islamic personalities from modern-day KSA.

Or let me just give a simple modern-day example:

It's very common among Arab siblings that the men tend to be darker while the Arab women usually are very pale. All my 3 sisters are lighter-skinned than all of us 4 brothers. 2 of my sisters have light brown hair. I have sporadic ginger/reddish/orange/light brown hairs in my beard.

King Abdullah and some of his daughters:



King Abdullah (son of Ibn Saud):



His half-brother King Salman (son of Ibn Saud):







So stop writing nonsense when you have no clue about genetics or the simple fact that siblings despite sharing parents can have different DNA due to the nature of human DNA.

https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/

Even david duke one of the most anti jewish out there admitted that the jews are not khazars he could use the khazar myth against israel since he us anti jewish person yet he saud the truth the the Ashkenazi jews and khazar connections is a myth


Are you stupid or what jews are different from each other's because they got mixed in every area that they landed but they belong to the same ancestry


Just like the arabs in North Africa and egypt look different from the indonisian arabs who look Asian or the south Asian arabs who look exactly like Indians and Pakistanis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_India

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians

You are wasting your time bro.

 

[Azadkashmir]

https://forward.com/opinion/382967/ashkenazi-jews-are-not-khazars-heres-the-proof/

Even david duke one of the most anti jewish out there admitted that the jews are not khazars he could use the khazar myth against israel since he us anti jewish person yet he saud the truth the the Ashkenazi jews and khazar connections is a myth


Are you stupid or what jews are different from each other's because they got mixed in every area that they landed but they belong to the same ancestry


Just like the arabs in North Africa and egypt look different from the indonisian arabs who look Asian or the south Asian arabs who look exactly like Indians and Pakistanis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_India

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Indonesians

Are you fcukign stupid you give me david duke plz do some background research on him he is a shill. fake left groups and right wing groups to divide you into camps he is fake opposition.

Ashkenazim/Khazar is not origin to Palestine but a imposter from eastern Europe.

 

[SALMAN F]

Are you fcukign stupid you give me david duke plz do some background research on him he is a shill. fake left groups and right wing groups to divide you into camps he is fake opposition.

Ashkenazim/Khazar is not origin to Palestine but a imposter from eastern Europe.

David duke is not shill or controlled opposition like the conspiracy theorist clowns like alex jones and paul joseph Watson which they are kind of like you it's hard to convince a conspiracy theories who believe in fantasies and delutions over facts

 

[Azadkashmir]

Are you fcukign stupid you give me david duke plz do some background research on him he is a shill. fake left groups and right wing groups to divide you into camps he is fake opposition.

Ashkenazim/Khazar is not origin to Palestine but a imposter from eastern Europe.

"Arabs are Caucasian people. In fact the white race/Caucasian race emerged in the Middle East during the Neolithic period when farming was invented by our ancestors. BCC had a nice article about this recently."

Okay Arab are white maybe you should tell that to USA when they bomb your brothers.
I promise the response will be very negative Arab are very hated by their white cousins.

What you talking about is adam eve days those are long gone everyone has their own race grouping. everyone has their own country except those that were thrown out for corruption take guess which one?.

David duke is not shill or controlled opposition like the conspiracy theorist clowns like alex jones and paul joseph Watson which they are kind of like you it's hard to convince a conspiracy theories who believe in fantasies and delutions over facts

david duke was part of kkk group tell me ? is it white? or is it CIA/Jewish organized group that pretends to hate jew but in reality it was a front to blame white for attacking blacks.
do you know he has had plastic surgery ? why to blend in with white race?.

 

[SALMAN F]

"Arabs are Caucasian people. In fact the white race/Caucasian race emerged in the Middle East during the Neolithic period when farming was invented by our ancestors. BCC had a nice article about this recently."

Okay Arab are white maybe you should tell that to USA when they bomb your brothers.
I promise the response will be very negative Arab are very hated by their white cousins.

What you talking about is adam eve days those are long gone everyone has their own race grouping. everyone has their own country except those that were thrown out for corruption take guess which one?.




david duke was part of kkk group tell me ? is it white? or is it CIA/Jewish organized group that pretends to hate jew but in reality it was a front to blame white for attacking blacks.
do you know he has had plastic surgery ? why to blend in with white race?.

Man you are really something

 

[Azadkashmir]

Man you are really something

I know you cant beat me but instead insult me. Iraqis used to think like this and laugh yesterday they were begging in the streets of England, then it was Syrians laughing do you remember assad laughing at gaddafi what happened to Syrians now? getting sold on the market for their beauty and slavery bought cheaply by sheikhs. Some of them in England begging for money.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Man you are really something

Caucasian = European. Did you not read the BBC article (your media)? Caucasian people originated from the Middle East (Arab world) less than 10.000 years ago during the Neolithic period. That is why Arabs are Caucasians and the most diverse Caucasians (pale, olive skin, light brown, brown, dark brown). That is also why our DNA is more diverse too. This guy is something. As if all Europeans look the same to begin with. A Cypriot has more in common appearance wise with an Arab than a person from Northern Europe 2500-3000 km away. Genetically too.



Not Caucasian.

Alessandro Nesta (famous 100% Italian footballer):



Your average Calabrian family:



Some Italian mafia members from Calabria:



















You will claim that they have "Arab ancestry" while this is nonsense. You have millions of Spaniards, Portuguese, Greeks, Cypriots etc. looking like that. Many can easily pass as Arabs.



@SALMAN F

Look at the Italian troll on PDF. He looks like an Arab/Middle Easterner while claiming to be some "White Aryan" not knowing that white/Caucasian people originated from the Middle East. Europeans are our offspring (80% of all Europeans originate from Neolithic populations native to the Arab world) as also stated by the BBC article. Not the other way around.

 

[SALMAN F]

Caucasian = European. This guy is something. As if all Europeans look the same to begin with. A Cypriot has more in common appearance wise with an Arab than a person from Northern Europe 2500-3000 km away. Genetically too.



Not Caucasian.

Alessandro Nesta (famous 100% Italian footballer):



Your average Calabrian family:



Some Italian mafia members from Calabria:



















You will claim that they have "Arab ancestry" while this is nonsense. You have millions of Spaniards, Portuguese, Greeks, Cypriots etc. looking like that. Many can easily pass as Arabs.



@SALMAN F

Picture of above they look like they are from South America

As for bashar he looks like a byzantine roman noble or soldier he is whiter than the Italians with blue eyes

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Picture of above they look like they are from South America

As for bashar he looks like a byzantine roman noble or soldier he is whiter than the Italians with blue eyes

I often find the stereotypical Italian woman look (brown/dark hair, dark eyes, tanned/olive skin, wavy hair, sometimes slightly curly hair) to be very similar to the appearance of Arab women. Often Arab women are more pale due to wearing the Hijab. By nature most Arabs (if not exposed to the sun) are quite pale.











Look very Arab (facial features and appearance).

Al-Assad has nothing to do with Europe. He still has Arab/Semitic/Near Eastern facial features. Many Arabs looked like this throughout history. Read about the descriptions of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and many of the Sahabah. Many pure (rarely mixed with outsiders) Arab tribes look like this.

A stereotypical Najdi (to me):





Another famous Najdi (Al-Rajhi):



Pure Najdi Arab tribes.

The diversity and richness in the Arab world (appearance wise although we retain our facial features regardless) is quite amazing.

Speaking about Jews, you can see the same diversity in Arab Jews.

 

[Gomig-21]

@EgyptianAmerican @Gomig-21

@Taygibay comments?

Totally agree with that fellow. Sphinx should be returned especially if it was looted, no ifs, and, or buts about it.

 

[Clutch]

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Do not give holy Jewish artifacts to a country that expelled its Jews
MARCH 6, 2018, 3:24 PM

Imagine being forced to leave your home, leaving all your belongings, your history, and your heritage behind. Now, imagine that they were rediscovered and brought to safe-keeping — just to be stolen from you again.

That is the fate of the Iraqi Jewish community.

In May 2003, over 2,700 Jewish books and tens of thousands of documents, records, and religious artifacts were discovered by a US army team when in the basement of the Iraqi intelligence headquarters flooded. This written record provides a robust understanding of the 2,600-year-old Iraqi Jewish community: the texts were sent to the US to be preserved, cataloged, and digitized, and they have been on exhibit in a number of cities for several years. Now, based on an executive order signed by President Bush in 2003, and extended by the US government in an executive order signed by President Obama, the Iraqi Jewish archive is set to be returned to Iraq in September 2018.

On a parallel track, but unknown to the Iraqi Jewish community, the Emergency Protection for Iraqi Cultural Antiquities Act of 2004 was amended in 2008 to include import restrictions on Jewish artifacts, including Torah scrolls, made on or before 1990. Then, the State Department put together separate Memorandums of Understanding, where the Jewish religious and cultural artifacts from Egypt, Syria, and Libya would be returned to the governments that had ethnically cleansed their Jews out of existence. Yet the Emergency Protection Act and the Memorandums of Understanding stipulate that religious or cultural artifacts need to be returned to their country of origin (limited, in the case of Iraq, to those artifacts made before 1990). It is like saying Jewish property that was looted during World War II and found in the US must be sent back to Germany. It allows these Jewish artifacts and documents to get into the wrong hands, hands of people who never owned them, and might not protect them from destruction.

The key point to remember here is that these artifacts — religious and cultural artifacts that are sacred to my community — never belonged to Iraq in the first place. The items are expropriated property stolen under the color of law that either belonged to private citizens or to the Iraqi Jewish community. It is critical to note that there is no longer a Jewish community in Iraq.

It is not just about the Iraqi Jewish archive though. They are part of a larger issue impacting Jews and Christians that needs to be solved. The Emergency Protection Act and the Memorandums of Understanding result in unfair consequences, and they do not take into account the circumstances at hand. The issue of potential return of stolen Jewish property to countries such as Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and Libya that ethnically cleansed the Jews is growing as red lists are published at US Customs, and countries such as Yemen may be added to those countries covered by Memorandums of Understanding. Suffice to say that the Emergency Protection Act and Memorandums of Understanding are not understanding or protecting at all of Jewish and other minorities’ artifacts.

Indeed, the Jewish populations of those Middle Eastern countries are now minuscule after years of violent persecution leading to ethnic cleansing. Of the million Jews living in Arab countries in 1948, fewer than 4,000 Jews remain. In Iraq in particular, the count is just five Jews.

Yet, the United States government, using the Emergency Protection Act and Memorandums of Understanding has placed import restrictions on cultural artifacts produced by Jews, Coptic Christians and other minority peoples, on behalf of Egypt, Syria, Libya and Iraq. Further, the United States government has promised to return the Iraqi Jewish archive to Iraq’s sectarian government in September 2018, including the notes of the Ben Ish Hai, a 19th century scholar, and a 16th century Jewish book seized by Saddam Hussein’s secret police, .

To provide some background: when Jews were expelled from Iraq, they were not permitted to take religious and cultural artifacts, like Torah scrolls and holy books, with them. Under Iraqi law, Jews could only take one suitcase with three summer outfits, three winter outfits, one pair of shoes, one blanket, underwear, socks and sheets, one wedding ring, one watch, one thin bracelet, and no more than 50 dinars. No prayer books, photographs, Torah scrolls, menorahs, kiddish cups and other heirlooms were allowed to leave. Even women and children were searched on leaving. In short, there was no way to take out any sacred Jewish artifacts — artifacts that mean the world to our community and are the only pieces of our past we have to show our future generations.

In fact, much of the Iraqi Jewish archive is from my grandfather’s school, the Frank Iny School. The Frank Iny School was always privately owned until it was expropriated by the Iraqi government in the early 1970s.

Thus, private as well as communal property will be returned to the country that persecuted and ethnically cleansed the Jews who lived in Iraq for more than 2,600 years, since time of the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem. This is a tragic situation for Iraqi Jews who have already been persecuted enough.

The community is organizing a petition to prevent the Jewish archive from being returned to Iraq, and asking people to sign it.

Carole Basri is an adjunct professor at Fordham University Law School, a visiting professor at Peking University School of Transnational Law, and a visiting professor at Pericles Law School. Carole, who is an American of Iraqi Jewish decent, has served as a member of the US State Department’s Future of Iraq Project and on the Coalition Provisional Authority working with the Iraqi Reconstruction Development Council (IRDC). She worked extensively on doing business in anti-corruption and transparency issues in Iraq, helping draft legislation and meeting with representatives from all Iraqi ministries in Iraq. Carole has published on human rights violations of Jewish refugees from Arab countries, and served as film director for several documentaries on Jews from Iraq, including “The Last Jews Of Baghdad: End of an Exile, Beginning of a Journey” (2005), and "The Life of Frank Iny" (1995) which appeared on PBS and in film festivals in New York.

What about the ones that left voluntarily or the ones who lie about persecution?