"Disgust' over Muslim wife-beating book

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

In India this is acceptable behavior.



lol. Lot of Indians getting beat up by their women.

Oh man pleas..you just crack me up

 

[sur]

Girls like "SPANKING" ,,, don't they ...

 

[PAKBARBIE]

first the saudi fiasco and now this... muslims and sunnis in particular should know how to resp[ect women !!

lack of respect of women is a worldwide phenomenon that transcends culture, religion and race (such female infanticide/domestic violence/rape that is very prominent in ur country as well)...its definitely a serious issue that needs to be addressed...and i dont think that men need to read a book like this to do this to woman
that being said..i condemn all acts of violence against women by anyone...and i'm sure most muslims (sunnis) do as well..and i don't think this guy should be using religion to advocate his sick views about how women should be treated

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Before try to humiliate other nation, religion or culture....these Indians should take a look at the mirror:

-Marrying dog...too bad I can't post the image
-Marry grand-ma over 70s
-all kind of bullsh11t that I don't want to dig the dirty side of India...that will make me smell bad.

So swallow your curry and leave other alone...LMAO

 

[Safriz]

Girls like "SPANKING" ,,, don't they ...

And many love being "disciplined" by a man

But what the hell these school kids know about Man woman relation and the psyche behind it ....

They can google article after article and copy paste over here.

In India this is acceptable behavior.

lol. Lot of Indians getting beat up by their women.

what the hell is that?...

 

[RazPaK]

what the hell is that?...

Dude in the second video a wife and her daughter have their husband/father tied up and beating him like an animal. Astagfirulla, you can't ever do that to your father, no matter what the reason.

My jaw had just dropped.

 

[Pakistanisage]

I am a Pakistani male and I have never raised a hand on a woman. I respect all women like I respect my mother, sister, wife or daughter. Any man who hits a woman probably has no respect for women in his life. Maybe he was raised in a barn and it just goes to a persons family background.

 

[Raphael]

Some people are so opportunistic. The West currently has awful relations with the Islamic world, so they're gonna dredge up and raise hell over some random book. When relations sour with India, will you be cheering their slanderous news reports about how "debauched and perverted" the Karma Sutra is?

 

[Safriz]

I am a Pakistani male and I have never raised a hand on a woman. I respect all women like I respect my mother, sister, wife or daughter. Any man who hits a woman probably has no respect for women in his life. Maybe he was raised in a barn and it just goes to a persons family background.

Torturing a woman,verbally or physically is no man's deed,only cowards do that...
But like i said it depends on couple to couple...sometimes touching is consensual,and the Guide line puts a limit to it,and thats not disrespecting the woman...The Guideline mentioned in the article does not order Muslims to beat the krap out of your wife after every prayer..It says that if both of you chose to have this type of lifestyle,this is the limit you can go,and yes men are given an upper hand with responsibility..Again nothing wrong with that.
If the woman doesn't like it,touching her will make the relation worse and its shouldn't be done,and its as simple as that.

You can paint any good thing as bad or bad thing as good...and the propaganda brigade is determined to paint everything in our religion as bad.

 

[timetravel]

But the fact is that Touting something as Responsilibility of All Muslims is wrong. I see wife beating as individual cases among all the religions, colour people on earth across the spectrum.

But associating with Religion is the dirty part, then it sure is retrograde. Obviously u cant stop individuals from beating wife in home if he wife's dont come out but saying ISLAMIC guide is terrible. Muslims need to come out of the grip of such MULLAHS and become citizens of today's world. I hope Muslims dont support such ridiculous people issuing and promoting such books in Islam name and spoiling its good name.

there are medeival ideas in all religions.. but I see many have left them behind. Muslims need to shun some of these old ideas in their religion. It is not necessary that all ideas mentioned in religion are good as per today's life also. As times change new ideas need to be incorporated and the old ones need to be shed/left. Muslims should not clinge to everything written or every idea mentioned in their religion by the book. They should move on and shun practices like Wife Beating etc. There was a old practice of Sati in hindu religion also, but u wont find takers for it at all now. So hindus have moved on and changed with time. Similar is the case with other religions. This is needed for Muslims also. They should not stick to every word in their religion. That religion was created for the society as it existed thousands of years back. Now the society has changed and so should the practices of Muslims should change. Sticking to every idea which was made in old times is not good in the name of being a true muslim. its a false and wrong notion, not good for society. Moving on with time and changing customs and abondoning old ideas and embracing progressive ideas is the need of hour.

 

[Safriz]

But the fact is that Touting something as Responsilibility of All Muslims is wrong. I see wife beating as individual cases among all the religions, colour people on earth across the spectrum.

But associating with Religion is the dirty part, then it sure is retrograde. Obviously u cant stop individuals from beating wife in home if he wife's dont come out but saying ISLAMIC guide is terrible. Muslims need to come out of the grip of such MULLAHS and become citizens of today's world. I hope Muslims dont support such ridiculous people issuing and promoting such books in Ismam name and spoiling its good name.

you havent read the thread propperly . have you?

suffice saying that our religion is extremely detailed and has guidelines for everything....thats why its a way of life not just another religion.

 

[timetravel]

Torturing a woman,verbally or physically is no man's deed,only cowards do that...
But like i said it depends on couple to couple...sometimes touching is consensual,and the Guide line puts a limit to it,and thats not disrespecting the woman...The Guideline mentioned in the article does not order Muslims to beat the krap out of your wife after every prayer..It says that if both of you chose to have this type of lifestyle,this is the limit you can go,and yes men are given an upper hand with responsibility..Again nothing wrong with that.
If the woman doesn't like it,touching her will make the relation worse and its shouldn't be done,and its as simple as that.

You can paint any good thing as bad or bad thing as good...and the propaganda brigade is determined to paint everything in our religion as bad.

why is is a ISMAMIC guide only. That is the Issue. Muslims may or may not follow it. I got ur point. But Muslims need to protest against associating the name of Islam with such abhorrent practices.

Its like I will never supprort a book which says Sati Practice for Hindus.. I will criticize it everytime. Even though I know its the personal wish of Hindus whether to follow it or not. Some may still follow. But the fact that it is upto "individual choice at last" will not be a reason for me to approve of the book. I will call for ban of such book and the prson writing such book as mental retard and will never let it be sold as Hindu Book.

you havent read the thread propperly . have you?

suffice saying that our religion is extremely detailed and has guidelines for everything....thats why its a way of life not just another religion.

GUide for EVERYTHING. but some of the Guide what it says is not applicable in modern times. Need to avoid that part of guide. No need to follow guide line by line. that is why some Mullahs are bad for Muslims ( like some religious preachers in other religions also) as they say anyone not following the guide 100% is not muslim. That is wrong. those who fall for such Preachers are the generally extremists not fit for today's world.

if the society has changed and progressed, so some of the norms in the guide which are now old need to be abondened or discarded by muslims.

 

[Safriz]

^^^ i am off to bed now...but will come back to the thread later.

in short .. the guides are not a "must do" for muslims..
its a matter of choice..if you want to do certain thing.Islam has a guide for you..but you can choose not to do it...simple.

 

[timetravel]

^^^ i am off to bed now...but will come back to the thread later.

in short .. the guides are not a "must do" for muslims..
its a matter of choice..if you want to do certain thing.Islam has a guide for you..but you can choose not to do it...simple.

thats good then. U have good views. But the problem is with some Mullahs who are selling books like these, which needs to be criticized by modern Muslims. As i said again the positon of "it is individual wish" does not mean this book should not be criticized and banned by Modern Muslims. Wife beating is clearly out of date n retrogade idea.

 

[timetravel]

Also for some Mullahs it is easy way to gain power over thousands of disciplines by using religion as tool, by saying u r not muslim if u dont follow this point of guide or if u dont do that point. basically points which may be medeival for u and me and other modern people. For some it is a conveneint tool to gain ascendency. Such people claiming it is necessary to stick to such practices and only then u r muslims are WRONG and NEED to be criticized and removed from the system and they should not have influence or popularity over majority masses in a religion. I would infact like more people like you to take top positions and shape views of next gen muslims, who beleive that it is not necessary for a muslim to follow all points in guide. Infact u need to go one step ahead and criticize the points which are retrogade by your view. I criticize sati absolutely and by doing so I do not feel at all I am not being hindu or i am defaming or desecrating hinduism in any way. but a bad idea is bad and I criticize it without feeling an iota of doubt and dont need to think twice even once.

Overall the desire it to have majority people in this world from all religions who live in modern times and who shun the medeival practices in their respective religions. Practices and guides and rules which are retrogade by today's modern life style. All such people not only need to shun but actively criticize such ideas in their respective religions. Society needs to be majorly of progressive minded people who are acceptable to new norms and ready to abondon old ones.