Disclosing Kargil casualties would affect morale of troops: CIC

[A.Rafay]

If disclosing real figure would affect the morale of the troops then the actual figure of the Indian soldiers killed will be very high!

 

[ares]

Which are fake! That's why they are being pushed to release the real figures and that's why they are saying it will affect the morale and hence real figures can't be released. Real figures will affect the morale.

That is a flawed assumption, with no facts to support it.

For Pakistanis who do not understand what RTI (Right any to Information Act) is.

It was a Act passed 2005 under which any citizen of India may request any information from any public institution, and public institution has reply with in 30 days.

How ever there are few exclusions to the information which can be released.

Any Information, disclosure of which would "prejudicially affect the sovereignty and integrity of India, the security, strategic, scientific or economic interests of the State, relation with foreign State or lead to incitement of an offense" has to be withheld.

Revealing war time casualties both enemy and yourself without reasonable passage of time fall in the above category

Now even though Indian Kargil war casualties are well know as well as published on govt. websites ..the above information was denied (in response to RTI), so as not set a precedent for revealing war related casualties.

 

[GoodBoy]

It wasn't hilarious for the hundreds of dead Indian soldiers who were defeated in Kargil.

Yeah right, don't talk about things you have no clue of. Some of the most strategic peaks and locations are within Pakistani possession. It is actually Indian soldiers on Tiger Hill which are surrounded from multiple sides.

Obviously you would never ever admit that Pakistan was ever defeated in war against Hindooooooos.

So much for false pride which gets thrashed in wars but hey you can live like a Alice in Its own wonderland.

Your top generals admitted Kargil was blunder but here you start yet yet yet another Kargil thread claiming victory when its gone down in history as yet yet yet another shameful defeat for Pakistan.

 

[ares]

It wasn't hilarious for the hundreds of dead Indian soldiers who were defeated in Kargil.



Yeah right, don't talk about things you have no clue of. Some of the most strategic peaks and locations are within Pakistani possession. It is actually Indian soldiers on Tiger Hill which are surrounded from multiple sides.

So why don't your put your money where your mouth is and tell us about these peaks, with proof offcourse.

 

[A1Kaid]

So why don't your put your money where your mouth is and tell us about these peaks, with proof offcourse.

We already have in a private part of the forum, I'm sorry you don't have the privilege of viewing, perhaps your Government can be more honest with you about Kargil.

 

[arp2041]

We already have in a private part of the forum, I'm sorry you don't have the privilege of viewing, perhaps your Government can be more honest with you about Kargil.

So what is "PRIVATE" about it?? & which "PRIVATE" part are you talking about??? Since AFAIK, Jr.TTs can only access the Senior's Cafe which is VISIBLE to all.

@KRAIT pls confirm this.

 

[ares]

We already have in a private part of the forum, I'm sorry you don't have the privilege of viewing, perhaps your Government can be more honest with you about Kargil.

As expected, when asked for evidence to support one's claim, all you can give are lame excuses.

It does not suit a 'Pakistani' to club words like 'govt'' honesty' and 'Kargil' in the same sentence.

You are a Joke, when it comes to accountability of your Kargil adventure.

 

[A1Kaid]

As expected, when asked for evidence to support one's claim, all you can give are lame excuses.

It does not suit a 'Pakistani' to club words like 'govt'' honesty' and 'Kargil' in the same sentence.

You are a Joke, when it comes to accountability of your Kargil adventure.

Ares just shut up, you're not respected here I could careless what you think, you can feel as bitter as you like doesn't change anything.

Now do me a favor and get lost.

 

[ares]

Ares just shut up, you're not respected here I could careless what you think, you can feel as bitter as you like doesn't change anything.

Do not give two hoots for your respect.. either be a man enough to back up your claims..or chicken out, as is the way of hot aired nincompoops ..who make tall claims but can never back them up.

Now do me a favor and get lost.

Make me!!

 

[black_jack]

Pakistan did achieve it's objectives, it occupies the key positions it wanted to in Kargil, objectives achieved.

Pakistan wanted to regain territory lost in 1984 , which it couldn't so how they won ?

 

[GoodBoy]

Pakistan wanted to regain territory lost in 1984 , which it couldn't so how they won ?

He won because a internet-think-tank said so

 

[Areesh]

We successfully defended ourselves and retook all peaks (barring 2-3 out of which only point 5353 is important and is surrounded by Indian Peaks.)

The main object of Op Badr was to gain strong position and force Indian forces to leave Siachin

The objective failed, India is still in dominating position in Siachin

In short we defended ourselves and didn't let PA achieve its main objective i.e we won

Since you have also admitted that all peaks aren't vacated. Your mission also ended with a lot question marks and was incomplete.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

Since you have also admitted that all peaks aren't vacated. Your mission also ended with a lot question marks and was incomplete.

Out of 100, if india cannot vacated 99 then we defeated , and Pakk which occupied 100 and driven out from 99 then manage to held one because then its victory .

wow man lot of question marks..

 

[Areesh]

Out of 100, if india cannot vacated 99 then we defeated , and Pakk which occupied 100 and driven out from 99 then manage to held one because then its victory .

wow man lot of question marks..

If you can't manage to vacate all the peaks despite all the air support which your opponents were missing then there are definitely question marks on your operations. Those question marks are further highlighted when you say you can't disclose war casualties since they would demoralize troops and the nation.

 

[Mav3rick]

But by mid-June, the Indian government accepted Musharraf’s pledge to end militant infiltration into India, and on 10 June, air restrictions over India were ended and Indian warships removed from Pakistan’s coast.[22]

While tensions remained high throughout the next few months, both governments began easing the situation in Kashmir. By October 2002, India had begun to demobilize their troops along her border and later Pakistan did the same, and in November, 2003 a cease-fire between the two nations was signed.[23]

source> the same source which gives 2,000 figure presented by windy> wikkipedia

When has Pakistan ever 'not' pledged to end militant infiltration into India???? For what it's worth, India was willing to withdraw her forces for Musharraf's smile!!

Basically, unless the country is at war with itself, India never had guts to attack Pakistan!

a) Dont trust Mush, ( he lied many times)
B) Dont Trust ISPR etc ( they lied many times)
C) dont trust other Gen. who said real things about kargil, ( PAK people dont want to real truth, only want to hear what they want to hear , other then that is not truth)

a) Musharraf has never been caught lying, yet.
b) ISPR statements are factual, there has never been any lie
c) Don't trust some of these retired senior military men who, after retirement, usually sell their allegiance to political parties.