Did Two Nation Theory Die in 1971 After Creation of Bangladesh?

[pk_baloch]

Have you even read Vedas, we still follow the four original Vedas. Sects are reality in all major religion of the world like Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism. Among Hindus sect is not given too much importance.

Among hindus there r caste system u people follow that thing which is not in vedas .......
btw caste system was politically applied by people ..ITS not in religion......

but u take caste system as a religion..

 

[Joe Shearer]

We have no civilisation ha ha ha ever heard of Persian civilisation, ever heard of gandhara and indus valley civilisation?.

We changed your landscape you only have to look at north and south India to see the difference.

It was actually better for your argument as long as you stuck to Internet Muslim behaviour and aped those retards on YouTube, for when you get pretentious and start on matters related to civilisation and culture, it sounds really comical.

Where Persian civilisation comes into this is difficult to understand. Perhaps a clue to the mental confusion of those who bring in this red herring, not as a red herring, but as a genuine argument, based on the bizarre confusion that the Persian civilisation was restricted to an area to the west of the Indus, and therefore seemingly a cultural stockade for silly people with very little knowledge and very large amounts of ignorant self-confidence.

Gandhara civilisation - there was, in fact, no Gandhara civilisation, only a Gandhara region - was an intimate part of Indian civilisation. I have read the subsequent posts, and know where the discussion is going, but this is just to pin down the confused thinking at the outset. There is time for a detailed discussion, but not here.

 

[Joe Shearer]

That is true but you have to understand that we just didn't walk in to Afghanistan, Afghanistan has always had Turkic presence, if you read shahnameh the people that stood with Afrasiab were not all Iranian but Turkic too so we been around here for a while.

What is more important to us what we chose and that is Pakistan.

You might well be right about Afghanistan 'always' having a Turkic presence, you might be right in claiming that the people who stood with Afrasiab were not all Iranian but Turkic too (how you got to that conclusion is a different matter), your choice of country and nation-state to which you chose to offer your loyalty is fine and a very civilised and intellectually elevated gesture. What you have to understand, however, is that the Shahnameh is fiction, an epic of latter-day vintage, and not history. Quoting it in defence of an historical argument is about as ridiculous as your equivalent, an Internet Hindu, citing the Ramayana and the Mahabharat, as historical source, and basing a statement on the authority of those.

It only develops a sceptical attitude in the reader towards your posts. 

"Were" ... later they had several pashtuns as their military commanders n other high ranking officers..

Which proves what, exactly? They had, not several, but many Rajputs as their military commanders; high-ranking officers were thick on the ground. So?

 

[Joe Shearer]

And everyone has been historically the enemy of Indians, look at northern Indians they invaded India and brushed aside the real Indians.

If you wish to be spiteful and bitchy, you might spare us the agony of added inaccuracy.

Genetically, there is nothing to show the separate existence of 'northern Indians'. There is only linguistic evidence. The general Indian population so far outweighed the number of immigrants that there is very little addition to the gene pool due to immigration. Nobody invaded India and brushed aside 'real' Indians. Some small numbers migrated and merged into the population.

It is clear from an analysis of the spread of the Indo-Aryan language, then of Prakrit, both as Sauraseni and Magadhi, that the significant cultural changes that accompanied the language eastward was led by a key component of the migratory families, and that key component very successfully preached the Vedic pantheon and its supremacy, and replaced much of what may have been the religious beliefs that prevailed before their coming. However, the process was inclusive, not exclusive; elements of the old religion were very significant, too, in the new theogony, and it is clear that the classic Hindu religion of the middle of the final millennium BC was a composite of Vedic and acquired faith.

What is ironic is that only the Pashtu population is distinct and separate from the general mass of the population. The implication, and reason for calling it ironic, is that you, for instance, have nothing in common with your Punjabi and Sindhi compatriots; they have more in common with other north Indians than they have with you; and they even have more in common with south Indians than they have with you.