Did PTI won any Seat in latest election ?

[asq]

i agree with Asim but at the same time I agree with Imran's sypathisers.

My dalema is the fact that those Talibans are Pakistanis no matter how you cut it,

Religious as well as our political leaders have failed miserably for not knowing the feelings of all pakistanis which include these Talibans and not teaching them real Islam and showing the real Islamic way of living and of behaving, which certainly does not condone things they have done and contuinue to do.

 

[Rafael]

Sir, I think we know the difference between the Afghan Taliban with which US+Nato forces have now decided to negotiate and the TTP that has been brutally killing the civilians all over Pakistan and backed by our enemies.

I agree with Asim but I want to add one thing here, most of the time Imran has been anti Army and I have never seen him supporting any of the Army's actions. Is it because he sees the so called Mujahideen closer to him than the Punjabi dominated Army? We all know he also had this animosity againt some Urdu Speaking players through out his cricket carrier.

I have noticed these few negative things in him.. it could be only my personal perspective and I could be wrong.

I don't think he is anti-army, and he has got relatives in the army too (Major Bilal Shaheed ?). and regarding him being pathan, if he was biased against Punjabis why would he make the largest cancer hospital of Pakistan in Lahore, a punjabi dominated city?

And as far as his cricketing career is concerned, i have heard a lot about this animosity against urdu speaking cricketers but no body could ever provide an evidence, plus he has won Pakistan a world cup, isn't that enough?

 

[illuminatus]

I agree with Asim but I want to add one thing here, most of the time Imran has been anti Army and I have never seen him supporting any of the Army's actions. Is it because he sees the so called Mujahideen closer to him than the Punjabi dominated Army? We all know he also had this animosity againt some Urdu Speaking players through out his cricket carrier.

I have noticed these few negative things in him.. it could be only my personal perspective and I could be wrong.

I beg to differ. Such criticism has been used repeatedly against IK by MQM supporters because he exposed the wrongdoings of the MQM leadership. IK has nothing against Urdu speakers which are all equally Pakistanis. Also, just because IK opposes military operations in the tribal areas doesn't mean he's automatically anti-military. It only means that he opposes operations which initially have indeed been fought at the behest of the US.

 

[pak-yes]

Apart from being Taliban sympathizer there's nothing wrong in Imran Khan.

And he has not been even given a chance to prove.And he does not seems to be corrupt like everyone else.

So if he stops Taliban sympathizing i will vote for him in next elections INSALLAH.

 

[azfar]

The reason of my saying is not that people hate him but how politics works in our country. Even no one other then sh rasheed (who has good connections in his constituency and has good relations with establishment) cant win the election under the name of awami muslim league.

As far as his cricket career what I know the hes the one who installed the cancer of politics and grouping in our cricket.

 

[rizhussain44]

I don't think he is anti-army, and he has got relatives in the army too (Major Bilal Shaheed ?). and regarding him being pathan, if he was biased against Punjabis why would he make the largest cancer hospital of Pakistan in Lahore, a punjabi dominated city?

And as far as his cricketing career is concerned, i have heard a lot about this animosity against urdu speaking cricketers but no body could ever provide an evidence, plus he has won Pakistan a world cup, isn't that enough?

I agree with your point that if he had any bias against Punjabis he would not have made the Cancer Hospital in Punjab. I should have noted that however I think him winning the world cup is a little irrelevant to my comments on him, his this achievement and his Patriotism for Pakistan is something I have always admired.

 

[Awesome]

Yes its easy for u and me saying that since non of our family has be blown up by drones or our own jets. What he is saying is this war cant be win by army as army saying also same. Army said we can only do 10 % of job rest is up to civilian goverment. There are 3000 terrorist who can be taken out after deal with locals but since we are bombing also locals they are turning against us.

Who is saying DO MORE ? JEWS lobby in USA and Indians. As Imran said since when we started to listen to Indians ?

Only 8% of Pakistanies are pay taxes how they hell can Pakistan do well with those 8% ? Just take PPP or PML ppl in ur area what have they given to ur city ?

New schools ? New hospitials ? Honest police ? sports grounds for young ppl ? Only thing they are doing is putting more and more money in there homes

My family hasn't been blown up by suicide bombers but I know a lot more of them have been blown up by suicide bombers and will continue to be blown up by them till the Taliban are eradicated.

We can talk with the Taliban but they have to surrender and go on trial for their crimes.

Whatever collateral damage by drones or by our bombing, is all on Taliban's head since they shouldn't be in Pakistan and definitely shouldn't be waging war against us.

 

[Awesome]

Sir, I think we know the difference between the Afghan Taliban with which US+Nato forces have now decided to negotiate and the TTP that has been brutally killing the civilians all over Pakistan and backed by our enemies. So if you meant "TTP" by "moderate Taliban" then I would say negotiating with them should not be an option, specially when we have been cracking them down so successfully.

I agree with Asim but I want to add one thing here, most of the time Imran has been anti Army and I have never seen him supporting any of the Army's actions. Is it because he sees the so called Mujahideen closer to him than the Punjabi dominated Army? We all know he also had this animosity againt some Urdu Speaking players through out his cricket carrier.

I have noticed these few negative things in him.. it could be only my personal perspective and I could be wrong.

Afghan Taliban. What did they do when they were in power in Afghanistan?

They established a CRAZY Islamic government, they ruined Islam's and Pakistan's name (for being their ally) around the world. They even beat up women, the government beat up women.

They are conducting bombings against civilians (sure in Afghanistan and not Pakistan) and even participating in the drug trade now (something they were against during their government). We can't even support them, the least we can tell them, leave our country?

Afghan Taliban should be in Afghanistan right? We are not even fighting the Afghan Taliban right now btw. We're fighting only the TTP and Imran has issues with that too.

He is not a sympathizer. But he IS wrong about this.

 

[asq]

These Tlibans are and were among us for long time, did we do anything, no, when troubles came we started to eradicate them, it is easier said than done, which is fine with me, but would it really solve the problem, no I donot think so, by killing one of these we create unknowingly more due to our lack of understanding of thier psyche.

in my openion their should be a Ntional debate in Pakistan by all including all Religious and political entities to arrive at a solution acceptable to all.

when agreed upon. than implement it, this is how it is done in North America, it might work for Pakistan.

May Allah S.W.T. help us Muslims to see the true Islam. Ameen

 

[shuakataftab]

PTI is a 13 year old failed party