I dont know whethe to do thisWhatever suits you guys. But I seriously doubt Russia would be enthralled to get gas from Iran considering it has its own huge oil and gas reserves.
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I dont know whethe to do thisWhatever suits you guys. But I seriously doubt Russia would be enthralled to get gas from Iran considering it has its own huge oil and gas reserves.
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to you all indians and pakistanis here this thread is not anti india or anti anyone. There are two proposals that are being worked on. One that would link iran pakistan china and russia has already started. This pipeline stands to make loads of money for participants. America as usual wants its corporations to get some of that money so they favour a different proposal which is supported by indian govt. Long term pot there could be securoty links not cos these 4 countries want to attack india or america but because they want to protect their income.
Guys I cant make it any simpler so if you still dont get it....
But India is a very important element here, because two of the three countries in the proposed block are neighbours of India with which India fought wars and the third one with which India has strong military relationship. Any block -security or military- that contains China and Pakistan would draw unparalleled reaction from Indian side
Moreover, some other points that goes against this block are
1. China runs because of US and EU markets
2. Nor China or India would form blocks that would be felt by other as overt encirclement (India not joining US - Australia - India trilateral agreement is an example)
3. Even now relationship with US is the most important relation that any country value, including China, Russia or Pakistan
The era of blocks are over. This is the era of bilateral relationships
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the proposals on the table are what they are. india has chosen a route that is not going through, the other proposal has started, the proposal that has started is india neutral at the moment
I appreciate your above than average enthusiasm for your beloved Pakistan to be in august company and to have a say in world economics, But believe me Pakistan hasn't evolved much beyond the prism of being a US lackey and now a China lackey. Pakistan as a state is looked at as a Paranoia state regarding its nuclear stockpile even in Russia's eyes who fears that terrorism will be forced into CAR nations by Pakistan after the power vacuum is created after the departure of the US/ NATO from AFG.
AFG as a strategic point is much more crucial for Russia, China, India and the US, Pakistan is looked at as just a country who has a sort of hold over AFG due to its sheltering of Afghan Talibans. You will remain as a counterweight against vis a vis the US in the past to India and Russia combined and in the present and future vis a vis China where Pakistan is acting as a deterrent to India/ US, not much more than that. Iran gas can be channeled through the Arabian Sea, Central Asia resources can be channeled through Russia. Russia is courting Pakistan at the present because it does not want a terrorism infiltration from Pakistan to its CAR nations after US/NATO leaves AFG, Russia also is looking at an active role in AFG. I know what is China's aim vis a vis Pakistan but saying it here wont be effective.
Russian relations vis vis Pakistan will always be weighed with its friendship with India, Israel relations with Pakistan will always be weighed with Israels relations with India, Iran's relations with Pakistan again will be in the prism of India - Do you know how much India buys from Iran? - US relations will again be weighed vis a vis India. There is only one relation Pakistan can bank on for some solace and that is China. Cos India is not courting China - India has practically declared China as its long term enemy.
There is not much leeway for Pakistan other than its supposed influence regarding AFG in the big powers eyes. It would be advisable to capitulate on that aspect.
that is one indian point of view which I would say is self serving and anti pakistani. Clearly you havn't read your former respected ambassadors reading of the situation earlier in the thread:
Pakistan is beyond its threat perspective vis a vis India, We do not consider Pakistan as a threat much, militarily, diplomatically or otherwise our sole focus is China, and all defense preparedness and our foreign policy is driven vis a vis China. Our long term goals have been achieved with respect to Pakistan. We were a bit worried when Russia said Pakistan is an important partner in South Asia, but our worries have been put to rest by Russia after they have stated their goals vis a vis Pakistan. Why do you think there is no counter statements from Indian statesmen.