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Despite Pak protest, India plans civilian trek to Siachen

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Let them send the tourists and we will bombard them when they are there. K2, what the hell you are talking about. K2 is part of Pakistan and not stolen territory like Siachin.

Wake up man northen areas also disputed one. Do some search .


Between you cant send your force there like mumbai:P . It 6500 meter above sea level man. You dont even have high altitude bombers to bomb siachin I ALREADY SAID THIS HAPPENING ALL THE YEAR. IT FUNNY THAT YOU KNOW THIS IN 2010 ONLY between i always support to make those areas un military it not only because of expanses due to heavy annual human loss :cry
 
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How much more explicit can this get. Most would argue that Bombarding tourists knowingly is as terrorist as it gets..

Let's please look at things in context here. An Indian gentleman started this thread on a Pakistani defence forum bringing up the subject of disputed territory over which thousands of lives have been lost. It is our position that Siachen was invaded in violation of the cease fire agreement between our two countries, in a very underhanded fashion, by the Indians. The general agreement prior to this illegal invasion was that the area would remain demilitarized. After this gentleman made what he knew to be an incendiary post, it was followed by other Indian members taunting Pakistan, e.g. "they think as if we care", "despite pak's protests", "for the FOURTH time" etc. The gentlemen that made the original post also showed his trollesque colours by joining in the taunting.

Paksher is wrong to lose his temper here, but the initiation unfortunately, is adwitiya's followed up with taunts from brahmastra, karthic and prometheus. You will get better than you give. Let me make that very clear.

The issue here is not about bombarding tourists knowingly. The issue is that Pakistan does not and will never consider Siachen or IoK Indian territory. If the Indian government is engaging in illegal occupation of a militarized area, recognized by the UN as disputed, and sponsoring civilian treks to this area, then they are responsible for all subsequent consequences. You know as well as I do that there are routine incidents of shelling and cross LoC fire. If these civilians fall prey to such incidents, it is under no definition, terrorism. If anything, it is the reckless endangerment of civilians on the part of the Indian government merely for the sake of scoring cheap points and getting a bit of media publicity.

Pakistan will not stand for these sorts of backhanded and offensive gestures. So you can expect retaliation. If you bring a civilian into a bunker or a war zone and the enemy bombs it, it is not called terrorism. You are using civilians as shields in this case. You are the terrorist. There is a direct parallel here... The disputed, fought-over territory of Siachen is being made to appear a "safe" part of India, which it is NOT. And whoever is using civilians for the purpose of making this incorrect statement will have the blood of these civilians on their hands if anything "goes wrong".

Lastly, let me tell you that the zero tolerance policy against terrorism that we announced seems to have really excited a lot of members from the eastern side of our border. We do NOT accept Kashmir as Indian territory. We do NOT accept Siachen as Indian territory. These are disputed territories and often become war zones. Civilian casualties in a war between countries are not, and cannot, be included under the definition of "terror". So please stop playing this angle. It will not work. :pakistan:
 
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By the same logic, should we bomb Punjabis in 'azad' Kashmir?

You don't have to ask our permission for your own defence decisions, do you? You make up your own mind as to what you want to do, and we'll decide how we will respond.

If this isn't supporting terrorism, I don't know what is.

Please don't get me started on this... Pakistan and Indian forces have exchanges of fire in the occupied territories *all the time*. If civilian casualties as a consequence of confrontation between two armies in a disputed territory is terrorism, then every war between any two nations since the beginning of time is "terrorism". Develop some perspective.
 
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