Despite Malala attack, Imran Khan stands ground on political solution

[truthseer]

Yes he bagged the best of British chicks in his time.....Better than Zardari begging Sarah Palin i suppose
Better than a jailed convict ruling the country..
hell a donkey ruling the country will be better than PPP's rulers..

Was Taliban Khan stoned to death for this?

Or did he use his influence to not get stoned?

 

[Safriz]

Was Taliban Khan stoned to death for this?

Or did he use his influence to not get stoned?

He used influence ..
Now go to sleep

 

[truthseer]

He used influence ..
Now go to sleep

Zardari says that defending Bhutto's honour is more important than sleep!

 

[Safriz]

Zardari says that defending Bhutto's honour is more important than sleep!

yes...just like this

anyway thanks to you..The thread is derailed beyond recognition and i will leave now..
You may continue with your propaganda..

 

[Emmie]

Zardari says that defending Bhutto's honour is more important than sleep!

Ideology never dies, you don't have to burn midnight oil to defend the honour and ideology. Beside, the fella who have asked you to do so himself disgrace the honour of his leader. Killers of ZAB and BB are yet to be identified and prosecuted, very own manifesto of Bhutto is yet to be implemented.

Actions speak louder than words, put hollow slogans aside for a while and let your actions speak, you still have half a year to rule.

 

[truthseer]

So Imran playing politics over Malala is all I got from the OP!

 

[Leader]

One thing Imran's critics always skip (lets give them benefit of the doubt that its not deliberate)

1- Get out of America's war

2- offer peace

3- if still resist, use tribal force or military or both to handle the situation.


and always remember:

"War is a too serious business to be left on Generals." Sir Winston Churchill.

you know what these duffer military generals have done to this country so far... its the mindset that will bring one war after another, whether you can see it or not there is a war with Afghanistan after this one and then probably there would be no one to tell the story !!

 

[FaujHistorian]

One thing Imran's critics always skip (lets give them benefit of the doubt that its not deliberate)

1- Get out of America's war

2- offer peace

3- if still resist, use tribal force or military or both to handle the situation.


and always remember:

"War is a too serious business to be left on Generals." Sir Winston Churchill.

you know what these duffer military generals have done to this country so far... its the mindset that will bring one war after another, whether you can see it or not there is a war with Afghanistan after this one and then probably there would be no one to tell the story !!

It is obvious you have not seen the Talibaboons up close and you just sit in a big madrassah and issue sermons.

On each of these 3 points, you are living in a world that existed decades ago. you seriously need to learn about the issue you are talking about.


#3, This is what we are asking and supporting. Use of tribal lashkar is useless. It creates warlordism. If any tribal wants to fight for Pakistan, he should be given the police/FC/army uniform, and be inducted into these forces.

Tribal lashkars were only good in the past. The new Talibabooni menace needs more modern techniques based on olice/FC/army.




#2- done multiple times. And each time Talibaboons used the time to regroup and attack with more ferocity. Remember if you are chasing jackals or hyenas, you do not given them time to rest so they kill more children and become stronger. You constantly chase them until they fall with exhaustion and then you kill them or put them in a zoo,.

Yes we should have a zoo for Talibaboons where people can watch them from the safety of big walls, barbed wire, and cages,



#1 - Pakistan has gotten out of American war if it was ever in it.

Tell me, do we have any troops in Afghanistan fighting alongside America?

Heck no.

The only thing Americans are asking is to stop Talibaboons from using Pakistan as their base. That's all.

We should be doing this for our sovereignty without America or anyone asking us to do.

We should be cleaning our home and our neighborhoods without anyone else telling us to do.


Hope you get this and understand this.


peace

 

[batmannow]

Only solution to the talibans is & was to wage a comprehensive & full scale war!
Negociations with these animals will bring more lal mosque, sawat , malala like tragdes !
Sory but imran could be good on cleaning cruption, creating jobs, making good education policies but his point of veiw on terror is to weak !
Even he himself find a militry opreation neccecary if nothing works out , these talibans already been negociated , they always backed out from aLl the negociations , allways double crossed us, & allways finds poor pakistanis soft targets for their ussege.
Now its the time pakistanis as a nations comeout united against talibans & wage a real war against them !
Srilanka a tiny nation can clean LTTE, after 30 years why can't pakistan do that?
British govt also, did that in ireland so why can't we?
Only negociations should be allwoed to held with those who want give up , nothing else, poison should be killed with poison, iron should cut with iron!

 

[Leader]

It is obvious you have not seen the Talibaboons up close and you just sit in a big madrassah and issue sermons.

On each of these 3 points, you are living in a world that existed decades ago. you seriously need to learn about the issue you are talking about.


#3, This is what we are asking and supporting. Use of tribal lashkar is useless. It creates warlordism. If any tribal wants to fight for Pakistan, he should be given the police/FC/army uniform, and be inducted into these forces.

Tribal lashkars were only good in the past. The new Talibabooni menace needs more modern techniques based on olice/FC/army.




#2- done multiple times. And each time Talibaboons used the time to regroup and attack with more ferocity. Remember if you are chasing jackals or hyenas, you do not given them time to rest so they kill more children and become stronger. You constantly chase them until they fall with exhaustion and then you kill them or put them in a zoo,.

Yes we should have a zoo for Talibaboons where people can watch them from the safety of big walls, barbed wire, and cages,



#1 - Pakistan has gotten out of American war if it was ever in it.

Tell me, do we have any troops in Afghanistan fighting alongside America?

Heck no.

The only thing Americans are asking is to stop Talibaboons from using Pakistan as their base. That's all.

We should be doing this for our sovereignty without America or anyone asking us to do.

We should be cleaning our home and our neighborhoods without anyone else telling us to do.


Hope you get this and understand this.


peace

we have discussed it before and I would prefer not to go through the same exercise again...it feels awkward...

there are so quite a number of factual inaccuracies in your post...

anyway fully agree with the bolded part and that is what the policy Imran wants to adopt.

Only solution to the talibans is & was to wage a comprehensive & full scale war!
Negociations with these animals will bring more lal mosque, sawat , malala like tragdes !
Sory but imran could be good on cleaning cruption, creating jobs, making good education policies but his point of veiw on terror is to weak !
Even he himself find a militry opreation neccecary if nothing works out , these talibans already been negociated , they always backed out from aLl the negociations , allways double crossed us, & allways finds poor pakistanis soft targets for their ussege.
Now its the time pakistanis as a nations comeout united against talibans & wage a real war against them !
Srilanka a tiny nation can clean LTTE, after 30 years why can't pakistan do that?
British govt also, did that in ireland so why can't we?
Only negociations should be allwoed to held with those who want give up , nothing else, poison should be killed with poison, iron should cut with iron!

we should have volunteers... I mean seriously the war monger should volunteer for it, instead of getting our soldiers getting killed, why not send the war mongers in uniform ? we will give good titles and proper burial too, Agree ??

 

[RazPaK]

we have discussed it before and I would prefer not to go through the same exercise again...it feels awkward...

there are so quite a number of factual inaccuracies in your post...

anyway fully agree with the bolded part and that is what the policy Imran wants to adopt.



we should have volunteers... I mean seriously the war monger should volunteer for it, instead of getting our soldiers getting killed, why not send the war mongers in uniform ? we will give good titles and proper burial too, Agree ??

FaujiHistorian is a chawal banda. Most of his posts are so off, I feel overwhelmed to even teach him actual "history". So I let it go.

 

[Leader]

P.S.

anyway there is no other solution but political, they are not rebels not freedom fighters, they have some twisted ideology which is why they call themselves Tehrik-e-taliban-pakistan, which essentially means that they claim to be Pakistani and want to implement their ideology,

what we need is to reach out to the recruiting areas, make them on our side, win hearts and minds, and corner talibans.

if someone didnt read this... read Changing militant strategies | DAWN.COM

its an endless war, unless we defeat their ideology, we cannot possibly win over them... their will be more recruitment and the process will continue...

we will keep on losing our soldiers, our civilians in this mad war... we cannot possibly kill 10 million people, we need the support of these 10 million people on our side so that their recruitment may stop.. unless we are able to do it, we wont win this war...

and the first step towards winning this war is getting out of american war. sort out our own matters.

 

[Zarvan]

Despite Malala attack, Imran Khan stands ground on political solution to terror

PESHAWAR: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) chairman Imran Khan reached Peshawar on Wednesday to meet gunshot victim Malala Yousafzai where he reiterated his stance on finding a “political solution” to the rising terrorism in the country.
Khan has stood against the ongoing military operations in tribal areas as well as the US drone strikes, maintaining that these tactics only help in producing more terrorists rather than eliminating them. This stance has made Khan the subject of massive criticism where his critics have dubbed him “Taliban” Khan claiming that he supports the terrorists.
The party leader stressed on Wednesday that the military operations being carried out for the past eight years have failed, but maintained that a military option should be retained as part of a bigger political process.
“Even in Swat, such a huge military operation was carried out, but people are still being killed over there. The military operation was termed successful but the military is still sitting there instead of a civilian government,” Khan stated.
“Real success would have been achieved if the areas returned to normalcy immediately after the operations ended.”
Quoting government figures, Khan said that Rs90 billion were being wasted every month on the military operations.

Their is not solution other than talking to our own Tribals and isolate TTP and than asking full support of our Tribals to counter TTP but we will never get this support as long as we allow drone attacks to take place and also if we don't move our Army back from Tribal Areas

 

[Leader]

FaujiHistorian is a chawal banda. Most of his posts are so off, I feel overwhelmed to even teach him actual "history". So I let it go.

its easy to actually use disinformation on threads in support of your argument.

if anyone can guarantee that they can end this war in this time frame, and with this number of causalities, everyone may support. like the Swat operation is a good example. but factually NW is not the same as Swat.

We want to end this war not expand it, I dont want to undergo another series of suicide bombing, blasts and all...

 

[Zarvan]

Only solution to the talibans is & was to wage a comprehensive & full scale war!
Negociations with these animals will bring more lal mosque, sawat , malala like tragdes !
Sory but imran could be good on cleaning cruption, creating jobs, making good education policies but his point of veiw on terror is to weak !
Even he himself find a militry opreation neccecary if nothing works out , these talibans already been negociated , they always backed out from aLl the negociations , allways double crossed us, & allways finds poor pakistanis soft targets for their ussege.
Now its the time pakistanis as a nations comeout united against talibans & wage a real war against them !
Srilanka a tiny nation can clean LTTE, after 30 years why can't pakistan do that?
British govt also, did that in ireland so why can't we?
Only negociations should be allwoed to held with those who want give up , nothing else, poison should be killed with poison, iron should cut with iron!

Sir Army has tried all kind of operations and every operation has failed if America can't win the war in Afghanistan you will never win the war here ultimately the super power will either run away or talk and you will have to do the same