AgNoStiC MuSliM
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Jana,
I am not interested discussing contentious issues that have no solutions except making one feel that one has done his bit for his religion or his country, as some feel!
To me, it is bogus and deceitful and not facing the truth!
And quit this nonsense of me derailing anything. I only respond. Get those guys who do it and get off my back. I dislike being blamed for no reason and indeed if I am at fault indicate where I started this nonsense and I will readily accept it and apologise!
I don't stand on any high pedestal!
You all start it and when things get inconvenient and can't stand the heat, you either declare it irrelevant to the thread or get ballistic and blame. If you caught the bull by the horn as also been equitable, I or anyone will have no complaints or heartburns.
Yes, no class is sanctioned in Islam. Then why is it flaunted with such pride? Answer that before you go smearing others and pretend holier than thou!!
Hatred is not the answer to PEACE!
India and Pakistan is moving towards amity. Help is what is wanted and not dissensions on stupid issues, which are debated with total bigotry and without knowledge like children in the KG or illiterates.
Salim,
I completely understand the point you are making here. In discussions about Islam and violence for example(on another Western blog), a lot of times the discussion would veer off into comparisons between the violent and vengeful biblical God, and that of the Quran. But I always thought that there was no purpose served with such exchanges, and would discontinue the discussion. As much as I hated the cherry picking of verses out of context to make the point that Islam was inherently violent, some people asked the question respectfully, being misinformed, with a desire to become better informed, and cognizant of the fact that such sweeping generalizations do not have truth to them. Those could be shown the contextual basis of such verses, and they understood.
Then there were the ones who cam in shrieking and holding aloft burning crosses - "All Muslims are terrorists, Islam is a violent cult!" - then came the endless jumble of cut and paste verses and Hadith. Barely time to reply to one set, and on we go with the next page of cut and paste ignorance. And of course next came the deluge of cut and paste biblical verses to prove that Christianity was just as violent. End of any civil discourse.
How I wish that the moderators could have taken more interest in getting rid, or warning, of the generalizations and stereotyping, because people wanted to respond, those questioning were eager to learn.
For that reason, and based on those experiences, it would be far better to simply report those posts that generalize (Pakistani or Indian. Hindu or Muslim), and continue with the discussion, and negate the incorrect assumptions or impressions.
I almost dread going into threads with particular titles anymore, certain that the discussion has been reduced to the type of back and forth I described.
Can the senior members at least attempt to give such an approach a chance?
And to some of the Muslim members:
Perhaps it would be less offensive to the non-Muslim members if, when you post contentious or "negative" articles/reports, you clarify that what is being presented in no way is reflective of all people belonging to the school of thought that you wish to discuss.
Treat them as you would wish to be treated.