Delhi elections and indifference of Hindus

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I don’t really think an average Kashmiri understands benefits between 370 and no 370 , what they were angry is their normal life being disrupted due to the decades long conflict and they having no jobs or earning, regular curfews. The politicians and separatists make most noise about it since they are the real losers here. Creation of jobs can turn situation and 370 stopped investment. We have seen much ugly scenes even when 370 existed, it’s been 6 months and situation seems under control.

Modi don’t stand in the elections silly, the same people voted for Modi few months back.

You are allowed to keep your bad manners to yourself. They are not welcome here.

Parties are known by their leaders. BJP is Modi as AAP is Arvind Kejriwal. Arvind won, Modi lost. Too hard?

 

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This seems to be a popular belief among Pakistanis in the forum. A few things that I would like them to know:

a) Roughly 70% of Indians welcome the controversial moves from GOI. The 20% minority population along with 10% liberal population vehemently oppose the move.
b) The population that do oppose the move is distributed throughout the country. So they are not pooled together to form a critical mass that could become significant.
c) About 20% of the protesters who vehemently oppose the moves from central government cannot be relied up to suggest or support sedition in any form.
d) Most Indian population have never seen or touched a gun in their life. The popular sentiment for Indian population is not to go near a gun or put hands on one even if given an opportunity to do so.

With the above being true, a separation of Indian state now is unlikely if not impossible.

It's a social study that if 10-15% of your Nation is alienated, the country becomes impossible to govern. To create chaos, you do not need 51% population creating chaos. If 20-30% of people in India are agitated, you have a dire problem.

On people resisting - it is a matter of losing your state or keeping it. After family (and tribe), the state is something you fight for and are willing to sacrifice life as in the case of soldiers. On the scale of "acceptance" vs "rejection vehemently" - removing one's state will cause people to go maximum insecure and take extreme actions.

Pakistan was created by "minority in India" that too was scattered across the region in East and West Hindustan then. When insecure and threatened, people join for causes and on such a massive scale where 200-400 million people are being deprived of a state, the reaction will substantial.

 

[Wood]

It's a social study that if 10-15% of your Nation is alienated, the country becomes impossible to govern. To create chaos, you do not need 51% population creating chaos. If 20-30% of people in India are agitated, you have a dire problem.

On people resisting - it is a matter of losing your state or keeping it. After family (and tribe), the state is something you fight for and are willing to sacrifice life as in the case of soldiers. On the scale of "acceptance" vs "rejection vehemently" - removing one's state will cause people to go maximum insecure and take extreme actions.

Pakistan was created by "minority in India" that too was scattered across the region in East and West Hindustan then. When insecure and threatened, people join for causes and on such a massive scale where 200-400 million people are being deprived of a state, the reaction will substantial.

Pakistan was created at a time when the "minority in India" did not have to fight a military conflict with an established state. This is not the case today. Even if the 15% that you ascribe want to break free from Indian union right away (which is a stretch), they have no will or way to fight the Indian state. Like I've said before, most Indians don't even have access to a gun. This cultural attitude may be very different from that in Pakistan which would influence your opinions.

 

[KhanBaba2]

It's a social study that if 10-15% of your Nation is alienated, the country becomes impossible to govern. To create chaos, you do not need 51% population creating chaos. If 20-30% of people in India are agitated, you have a dire problem.

Do you have a link to the social study.

 

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Hindus deserve all the kicking that they have got for centuries.
BJP has removed special status for J and K...they have fought their tooth and nail in supreme for ayodhya verdict in favour of Hindus...removed triple talaq....brought a law to give citizenship to persecuted Hindus of Pakistan and Bangladesh citizenship.
In spite of doing these many things to Hindus,delhiites have elected once again a traitor and anti hindu Arvind kejriwal as their CM...delhiites fell for freebies...what a shame
Hindus will never learn their lessons.

I think it's time for a rape and pillage mob as revenge for not voting BJP!

Gia Hind!

Jia Shri Ram Ram!

 

[KhanBaba2]

https://thewire.in/business/jammu-and-kashmir-land-investment
https://www.newindianexpress.com/bu...nvest-up-to-rs-15000-crore-in-jk-2083451.html

You think this isn't positive development? If this helps create jobs for the youth there. Rome wasn't built in one day but this certainly a step in the right direction , towards real normalcy.





lol you are quite naive if you think the types like mehbooba mufti obey constitution and were pro-india. They are in jail because center knows they are going to make noise and again disrupt peace from returning. Their wings have been clipped and so they are going to cry now, isn't it obvious. For the normal people of kashmir it might be a blessing in disguise.

I don't know how much electorally this will benefit BJP , I don't even care but in years to come this will be remembered as best decision taken by a BJP govt for the nation.

There are no jobs in the rest of India. And you think that jobs will be created in Kashmir. If you think that creating of jobs will cool down the Kashmiris, shouldn't this step have been taken when there were surplus jobs available rather than when we are facing high unemployment.

Did Mehbooba Mufti start going against the constitution before or after the 370 removal. If after the removal, then it proves that the step was stupid and alienated the people of Kashmir. If before, then why wasn't she arrested before. Is that not the failure of the Home Ministry from the center.

 

[Adonis]

But what triple talaq has to do with Hindus?


And one thing. Hinduism survived till now, because it was a personal issue of individual people. 1.Hindus remain successful when they work with non Hindu officials e.g. Banya system.
But whenever 2. Hinduism came in power, it divided India. Same is true for Judaism.
Islam and Christianity always tried to kept people together. 3. So Islam was the thing that kept India somehow together.
Better not break this safety.

Wow!! I appreciate your knowledge of Hinduism and history.

On Serious note.

1. Banya system is what? How it is non-Hindu?
2. Can you give examples? Long before Islam, Ashoka had a much larger empire in the subcontinent than largest empire under Islamic rulers (Aurangzeb Alamgir)

3. Islam by design, does not promote inclusiveness. It differentiates between believers and non-believers. The peasants (non-Islamic) were kept together by force. And to your point, when Islam could not keep Pakistan together (West and East Pakistan) despite having Islamic believers in majority....I doubt your statement on it keeping India together.

 

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Wow!! I appreciate your knowledge of Hinduism and history.

On Serious note.

1. Banya system is what? How it is non-Hindu?
2. Can you give examples? Long before Islam, Ashoka had a much larger empire in the subcontinent than largest empire under Islamic rulers (Aurangzeb Alamgir)
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3. Islam by design, does not promote inclusiveness. It differentiates between believers and non-believers. The peasants (non-Islamic) were kept together by force. And to your point, when Islam could not keep Pakistan together (West and East Pakistan) despite having Islamic believers in majority....I doubt your statement on it keeping India together.

Just ignore my comments. It was a piece of wishful thinking. In fact, any system can work if it is just to everyone in the society. So yes, Hinduism is another candidate.

 

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vedic chutiyapa .

 

[fitpOsitive]

The same people will vote for bjp in Lok sabha ,no need to worry, actually recently BJP is slowly turning into a party of Chamchas. They need to deliver on economic and infrastructure front , what they promised in 2014.

And I am sensing that congress will come in next elections with a upgraded version of BJP.

 

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Pakistan was created at a time when the "minority in India" did not have to fight a military conflict with an established state. This is not the case today. Even if the 15% that you ascribe want to break free from Indian union right away (which is a stretch), they have no will or way to fight the Indian state. Like I've said before, most Indians don't even have access to a gun. This cultural attitude may be very different from that in Pakistan which would influence your opinions.

15% of India makes 225 Million - but the reality is close to 30% (450 million) people are being alienated including Sikhs, Christians and Muslims. What we are speaking here is the availability of excessive human supply scattered all over India.

Do you have a link to the social study.

I learned from Haroon ul Rasheed, the socio-political analyst. I don't have a reference to that study.

 

[Wood]

15% of India makes 225 Million - but the reality is close to 30% (450 million) people are being alienated including Sikhs, Christians and Muslims. What we are speaking here is the availability of excessive human supply scattered all over

Sikhs and Christians cannot work with Muslims. You could see that they actually support 370 revocation and are unaffected by CAA. Even Muslims are divided on sectarian lines.

I’m not likely to add more value to what I’ve already said on this matter. So I’m gonna rest my case now

 

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