Deep state threatens India’s national unity

[Mitro]

I don't know why people have problem when i say i am a muslim first then indian .when religion is spiritual and nothing to do with geography a muslim is also good indian you cannot tell me to choose between been indian or been muslim first there is no relationship between them.
we muslim in the past have sacrifice our life for the mother land and will do again and again even against pakistani muslim army and muslim in india are by choice we had the opportunity to migrate but we choose to stay and alhumdullilah we are happy but dont force your religion belief on us as we don't force our belief on you.
and last India will be never hindu nation which is guaranteed by our constitution so forget about it.

No one is against Indian Muslims...but we are against Muslims or Hindus who are priotize religion above the nation...India has survived many challenges and it will survive in future too..But the issue is India will survive till the point India will become a culturally Hindu nation...That does not mean, Muslims will be less Muslim or Hindu rules will prevail, but that means, people and their affiliation will be more inclined toward the culture of the land rather than the land of far away land...I do not have problem with Czar and Jamil....because they are part of my culture and land...but of course i can not be a part of people like Mujahid......We do not want to create a Hindu nation but I do not want to create a Islamic nation too...

 

[Mitro]

Bro for illegal bd's send them home and seal the border and also do same for pakistani hindus who are coming in thousand from pakistan as tourist but they never go back we should not pick one over other .

@Czar786 ....I respect your post...And i agree with you and your intent...But tell me one thing, if you still feel that there is no illegal Muslims from BD then it is an illusion....There exists a massive illegal inflitration from BD and in specific Muslims...In my home illegal BD familly worked for more than a year in Bhubaneswar...Now the challenge is how to identify them...See my problem is that the sane people like you are not addressing the problem..rather you are trying to avoid it..Suppose you think that BJP is not able to identify the right illegal people and harassing native people, then why not some Muslims NGO take up the issue and help the Gov to identify the illegal people and deport them...At the end of the day, it should be your intrest too to remove all the illegals..There should not be any double thought about it...We can debate about the mechanism but the intention should not be questioned....

 

[wolfschanzze]

I don't know why people have problem when i say i am a muslim first then indian .when religion is spiritual and nothing to do with geography a muslim is also good indian you cannot tell me to choose between been indian or been muslim first there is no relationship between them.
we muslim in the past have sacrifice our life for the mother land and will do again and again even against pakistani muslim army and muslim in india are by choice we had the opportunity to migrate but we choose to stay and alhumdullilah we are happy but dont force your religion belief on us as we don't force our belief on you.
and last India will be never hindu nation which is guaranteed by our constitution so forget about it.

LETS TALK About how why we shouldnt be a HINDU NATION? AFTER ALL THIS WAS PARTITION PRINCIPLES!
Bring your Arguments!
Lets Debate!

 

[Kaniska]

Bro for illegal bd's send them home and seal the border and also do same for pakistani hindus who are coming in thousand from pakistan as tourist but they never go back we should pick one over other .

Agree with you...But the logic is Pakistan and BD are created for Muslims at the time of partition so India has to accept Hindus from Pakistan or BD...This is a part of partition emotion that we still carry on....If Pakistan would not have been created for Muslims then i do not mind allowing Muslims to take asylum in India too....

But this is not happening Successive Cong and TMC gov turned blind eye to inflitration of Muslims people just beacuse they get votes...Is it not wrong...When these parties play the politics for their own benifit, BJP takes the opposite role and plays for its own benifit too..

So my point is that i absolutely do not have any issues with my Muslim brothers...But yes I have issues with any Islamic nation and people who do not like Hindus and in general Indian people..

 

[Kaniska]

I don't know why people have problem when i say i am a muslim first then indian .when religion is spiritual and nothing to do with geography a muslim is also good indian you cannot tell me to choose between been indian or been muslim first there is no relationship between them.
we muslim in the past have sacrifice our life for the mother land and will do again and again even against pakistani muslim army and muslim in india are by choice we had the opportunity to migrate but we choose to stay and alhumdullilah we are happy but dont force your religion belief on us as we don't force our belief on you.
and last India will be never hindu nation which is guaranteed by our constitution so forget about it.

It is beacuse of the simple fact that if your religion takes precedence over Nation then your judgement will be biased...Think about India's relation with Isreal....Now tell me, why India should not have a full flegded good relationship with Isreal? And why Indian Muslims are opposing it....Indian muslims are opposing because they feel Muslim brotherhood is more important than their own nation...Because Isreal may be an enemy of Palestine...and but Isreal is an enemey of Indian state...Why should we always condemn them when they helped us in our critical times of war with Pakistan?

This is a classic example when some one brings religion before their nation....

 

[Kaniska]

I don't know why people have problem when i say i am a muslim first then indian .when religion is spiritual and nothing to do with geography a muslim is also good indian you cannot tell me to choose between been indian or been muslim first there is no relationship between them.
we muslim in the past have sacrifice our life for the mother land and will do again and again even against pakistani muslim army and muslim in india are by choice we had the opportunity to migrate but we choose to stay and alhumdullilah we are happy but dont force your religion belief on us as we don't force our belief on you.
and last India will be never hindu nation which is guaranteed by our constitution so forget about it.

And just to correct my post...I never ever would like my Muslim brothers to change their belief or their religion...But it is a matter of precedence that is being debated here..

 

[Mitro]

First explain me what are the benefit of becoming hindu nation not only for hindus but for other religion also.
how can you become a hindu nation is their any thing in constitution that say india can become hindu or muslim or christian nation .and what in the future muslim become majority you will be ok with india becoming muslim nation.

LETS TALK About how we are never gona be a Hindu Nation.
Bring your Arguments!

 

[wolfschanzze]

First explain me what are the benefit of becoming hindu nation not only for hindus but for other religion also.
how can you become a hindu nation is their any thing in constitution that say india can become hindu or muslim or christian nation .and what in the future muslim become majority you will be ok with india becoming muslim nation.

NO You tell me before quoting the Constitution,What was the benefit of becoming a Secular nation ? Be my guest please.

 

[Pride]

You are not alone,many in India feel that way.The filth of communist brainwashing is washing away slowly but surely,Only when ones existence is threatened shall they open their eyes and think about the welfare of the nation,Bengalis are under "DEEP SHOCK" of STOCKHOLM SYNDROME,the worst happened to them in India in British times and in Partition yet this pandering to Bangladeshis and TMC(Terrorist making company) baffles everyones logic.
Yes Bengal will again start producing Patriots like Subhash chandra bose,Aurbindo,vivekananda etc. in future, until then we have to tolerate this commie filth.Let the old generations fade into oblivion,currently there are no takers for the commie ideology in young generation.

You responded word by word my feelings. Kudos!

I had great respect for Bengal and Bengalis specially for all the names you mentioned and the forgotten ones like Armed rebel started from Bengal (Hindustan Republican Army) but then something happened to Bengal in early days of Independence. Intellectual became Intellectual terrorists or many came up as Pseudo-intellectuals. Specially, Commies anywhere in the world can speak freely against Christians or Hindus but afraid of speaking against Islam and Jews. You see anywhere in the world this happened. So, these commies are again pseudo-commies and not following Marx or Lenin properly.Then many started following Mao's commie version and created so much havoc as Maoist.

On social note Bengal is also changing, the advantage of Bengal always was and is its strong culture with Books, Music etc so many people are following it in general without "actual" knowledge of it but by seeing it neighbor's kids. Now, we got so many pseudo-intellectual people who have read books across the globe but not creative enough but to show off they are murdering art in many ways. While we have R D Burman, Salil Chaudhary kind of musicians and now we have Pritam and while we had Hrishikesh Mukherjee as great director we have Pseudo-intellectual, copy-cat director Anurag Basu. I also met many excellent Bengalis while number of Pseudo people I have met is higher.

 

[Mitro]

For a person his life is more important to him then any thing else realistic speaking and for us our religion is more important then our life .if i have to choose between my life and my religion i will select my religion.
i love my country because my religion tells my too love and be honest and productive member of the society and fight to protect her if some body attach her.

And just to correct my post...I never ever would like my Muslim brothers to change their belief or their religion...But it is a matter of precedence that is being debated here..

 

[Kaniska]

For a person his life is more important to him then any thing else realistic speaking and for us our religion is more important then our life .if i have to choose between my life and my religion i will select my religion.
i love my country because my religion tells my too love and be honest and productive member of the society and fight to protect her if some body attach her.

Again...i respect you and your sentiments...no double thought about it...But for me...It is different...for me my priority is my nation...i love my religion just because i am born with it...otherwise..i do not have as such any commitment for it..

 

[Bong]

LETS TALK About how why we shouldnt be a HINDU NATION? AFTER ALL THIS WAS PARTITION PRINCIPLES!
Bring your Arguments!
Lets Debate!

It wasnt mandate for Hindus to create separate Hindu nation. Only Muslim mandate to create country for themselves.

The trophy is sikh areas, Muslim areas and NE. Where Hindus were not majority.

 

[Saheli]

It wasnt mandate for Hindus to create separate Hindu nation. Only Muslim mandate to create country for themselves.

The trophy is sikh areas, Muslim areas and NE. Where Hindus were not majority.

Why? Are Muslims some kind of special creatures that only they were entitled to a land for their religion? India is a de facto Hindu country precisely to guard against people like Czar786 who hold their religion above this nation.

 

[Joeblow]

India is a de facto Hindu country precisely to guard against people like Czar786 who hold their religion above this nation.

The constitution says your country is secular yet here you are arguing that it is defacto Hindu state. Doesn't that mean you love your religion more than your country?

 

[Bong]

Why? Are Muslims some kind of special creatures that only they were entitled to a land for their religion? India is a de facto Hindu country precisely to guard against people like Czar786 who hold their religion above this nation.

Your country is holding together itself well and did well in many sectors as it says herself a secular nation.

Cant say about Pakistanis but we Bangladeshis could be another Bihar if we were with India.