Deconstructing Modi Agenda for Afghanistan

[xyxmt]

Not kill, because it cant kill it, more like continue to drown it, keep it weak. Pakistan doesnt want a functional Afghanistan, a Afghanistan that may bring up the legitimacy of the Durrani line, etc. A strong Afghanistan that may align with India. For that, it'll continue to meddle in Afghanistan's affairs. It's no surprise Afghans cant stand Pakistan.

you are absolutely right, why would Pakistan want a functional stable Afghanistan with open borders who is so chumy chummy with India. the day Afghans understand it will be the end of their problems., but they lack the brain and we lack the sympathy

 

[nangyale]

what you believe or not, is upto you. Although it doesnt change any facts on the round.
and the fact is that after the dissolution of the Soviet Union there was no chance of the Communist gov surviving, so Pakistan did what it could, which is to bring together all the different sections of the Mujahideen and make a unity gov.
Pakistan is now and has always tried it's best to bring stability to Afghanistan, it's the other interfering powers (be they regional or global) that have brought misery and destruction to Afghanistan.

i do not buy it.

Pakistan had a chance to push the Mujahdeen leadership to form a national unity government with the communists. The communist govt had a large army and SCUD missiles.

I can see at least four or five missed opportunities

 

[wiseone2]

what you believe or not, is upto you. Although it doesnt change any facts on the round.
and the fact is that after the dissolution of the Soviet Union there was no chance of the Communist gov surviving, so Pakistan did what it could, which is to bring together all the different sections of the Mujahideen and make a unity gov.
Pakistan is now and has always tried it's best to bring stability to Afghanistan, it's the other interfering powers (be they regional or global) that have brought misery and destruction to Afghanistan.

you can say all you can. afghans across a wide spectrum dislike you for your efforts

 

[Tshering22]

Both Modi and Ghani are facing pressure at home from failure to deliver on electoral promises -- thus a hawkish foreign policy is a handy fix to their predicaments.

Failed to deliver? PM Modi?

Quite the opposite infact.

He's meeting all expectations with rapid speed. My region has got a focus it never had for over 3 decades.

Economic growth is back on track; manufacturing is picking up. Investements are pouring in.

Decades of holdup of defence equipment due to bureaucracy is cleared.

Old, relic regulations are being removed.

GST is being implemented.

Startups are being encouraged by government.

Organic agro business is rapidly increasing along with cooperation with hi-tech friends like Israelis in this area.

Don't know about Mr. Ghani though.

He doesn't seem to be the corrupt type.

 

[nangyale]

you can say all you can. afghans across a wide spectrum dislike you for your efforts

Not true.
Only some Afghans don't like Pakistan.
The same way some Afghans don't like Iran, or the US, or Russia or India or any other country for that matter.

Result of some misconception and propaganda.

In the end facts always win.

 

[wiseone2]

Not true.
Only some Afghans don't like Pakistan.
The same way some Afghans don't like Iran, or the US, or Russia or India or any other country for that matter.

Result of some misconception and propaganda.

In the end facts always win.

there is no misconception or propaganda
afghans in afghanistan are at receiving end of taliban violence
why would they have any love for you ?

 

[nangyale]

there is no misconception or propaganda
afghans in afghanistan are at receiving end of taliban violence
why would they have any love for you ?

At the same time they are the receiving end of warlordism, drone strikes, coruuption, nepotism and some more. None of which is Pakistan's doing.

 

[wiseone2]

At the same time they are the receiving end of warlordism, drone strikes, coruuption, nepotism and some more. None of which is Pakistan's doing.

it is in the eyes of the beholder

 

[Kandahari]

Not true.
Only some Afghans don't like Pakistan.
The same way some Afghans don't like Iran, or the US, or Russia or India or any other country for that matter.

Result of some misconception and propaganda.

In the end facts always win.

Zoya, there might have been a small group of Afghans that liked Pakistan but not anymore, not after the whole Taliban supporting and the fake war on terror.

All the chemicals used for IEDs come from Pakistan. You're govt could easily put a stop to its production and use another form of fertilizer but nope! You're govt wants innocent civilians to die and keep chaos in Afghanistan.

I don't live in that region nor am I affected but just knowing the facts makes me dislike Pakistan and its people for not taking action.

 

[pakistani342]

Zoya, there might have been a small group of Afghans that liked Pakistan but not anymore, not after the whole Taliban supporting and the fake war on terror.

All the chemicals used for IEDs come from Pakistan. You're govt could easily put a stop to its production and use another form of fertilizer but nope! You're govt wants innocent civilians to die and keep chaos in Afghanistan.

I don't live in that region nor am I affected but just knowing the facts makes me dislike Pakistan and its people for not taking action.

Really easily put an end to fertilizer??? are you like 5 years old -- redoing the entire fertilizer infrastructure of a country?

Pakistan proposed that the international community refit it's fertilizer -- guess what the response was.

Plus the IEDs are not made of fertilizer anymore in case you've not kept up with the news. They're made of match heads which is far more potent.

 

[Kandahari]

Really easily put an end to fertilizer??? are you like 5 years old -- redoing the entire fertilizer infrastructure of a country?

Pakistan proposed that the international community refit it's fertilizer -- guess what the response was.

Plus the IEDs are not made of fertilizer anymore in case you've not kept up with the news. They're made of match heads which is far more potent.

Yes it's really that easy to stop making fertilizer that utilizes ammonium nitrate! The US even offered support but your govt refused hmm I wonder why. Btw there's only two or three factories that use this chemical one of which is located in the border areas...

The US asked your govt to use a red dye in the fertilizer so it would be easier to spot in a border check, your govt did not cooperate.


Afghan govt has captured terrorist with bags of this fertilizer made of ammonium nitrate with a big green flag on it...

The region needs to stop producing this type of chemical not the entire world lol of course pakis proposal would be shot down.

 

[Manidabest]

Yes it's really that easy to stop making fertilizer that utilizes ammonium nitrate! The US even offered support but your govt refused hmm I wonder why. Btw there's only two or three factories that use this chemical one of which is located in the border areas...

The US asked your govt to use a red dye in the fertilizer so it would be easier to spot in a border check, your govt did not cooperate.


Afghan govt has captured terrorist with bags of this fertilizer made of ammonium nitrate with a big green flag on it...

The region needs to stop producing this type of chemical not the entire world lol of course pakis proposal would be shot down.

wait wait wait .... afghanis hate pakistanis no problem pay all the money back to Pakistan which Pakistan has wasted on hosting afghan refugees 2ndly leave our country as soon as possible and take back all the prostitutes, drugs, criminals, & your Kalashnikov culture with you ... end of discussion thank you

 

[pakistani342]

Yes it's really that easy to stop making fertilizer that utilizes ammonium nitrate! The US even offered support but your govt refused hmm I wonder why. Btw there's only two or three factories that use this chemical one of which is located in the border areas...

The US asked your govt to use a red dye in the fertilizer so it would be easier to spot in a border check, your govt did not cooperate.


Afghan govt has captured terrorist with bags of this fertilizer made of ammonium nitrate with a big green flag on it...

The region needs to stop producing this type of chemical not the entire world lol of course pakis proposal would be shot down.

Are you out of your mind?

You are asking for an entire industry to be re-tooled? You are asking for billions of dollars of chemical engineering plants to be converted -- people retrained -- supply chains re-done. Sales staff retrained -- farmers retraining -- marketing collateral redone.

How old are you? Are you allowed to be on this forum? How much brain washing has your family done to you ???

My dear -- for your information -- the US understood that this could not be done. I challenge you to post an article which says the US offered to pick up the cost.

Some of my colleges were involved in the matter.

I mean ... please use your brain ... not for my sake but for your own ??!??!?

 

[Kandahari]

Are you out of your mind?

You are asking for an entire industry to be re-tooled? You are asking for billions of dollars of chemical engineering plants to be converted -- people retrained -- supply chains re-done. Sales staff retrained -- farmers retraining -- marketing collateral redone.

How old are you? Are you allowed to be on this forum? How much brain washing has your family done to you ???

My dear -- for your information -- the US understood that this could not be done. I challenge you to post an article which says the US offered to pick up the cost.

Some of my colleges were involved in the matter.

I mean ... please use your brain ... not for my sake but for your own ??!??!?

Retraining farmers?? Really is that your excuse Hahahaha do farmers need to be trained how to use a different chemically formed fertilizer?! Or is it all the same to them...

If one wants to prevent bombings within their country and it's neighbors they'll change the formula...

As I stated above and which you conveniently ignored, the US military asked your govt to add dye to the fertilizer so it's easy to spot in searches (border). Of course your govt came up with some bogus excuses.

Your govt is a terrorist entity and the world knows this, keep creating excuses but not willing to make the region a safer place.

 

[nangyale]

Zoya, there might have been a small group of Afghans that liked Pakistan but not anymore, not after the whole Taliban supporting and the fake war on terror.

All the chemicals used for IEDs come from Pakistan. You're govt could easily put a stop to its production and use another form of fertilizer but nope! You're govt wants innocent civilians to die and keep chaos in Afghanistan.

I don't live in that region nor am I affected but just knowing the facts makes me dislike Pakistan and its people for not taking action.

Khpal plar ta de zoya ma waya, ta de moor da aqal na de kho wale.

You don't represent the whole of Afghanistan. And as for your assertion that people don't Pakistan coz of support for Taliban then you should realise that the Taliban are not resident on Mars, they are present and fighting from among the local population, as an insurgency, now try reading about any insurgency and soon you will realise that an insurgency can never be successful without local support.

So doesn't matter if Pakistan support or not the Taliban the local Afghans do.

You don't live in Afghanistan as you put it yourself probably that's the reason you don't understand the local dyanmics and got yourself pumped up watching Bollywood and Fox News, and thus you statred you keyboard war. Just a suggestion though, do some research before you start posting.