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'Declare Pak Terror Sponsor': Petition In US Qualifies For Official Response

Oh, its not Indian influence that's at work.

You think one after another popular US tv shows or Hollywood productions portray Pakistan as a jihadist country with nuclear weapons because of Indian influence?

It is you my friend who overestimates Indian influence.

I said, this is just a start. It is starting to embed in public memory the 'Pakistan is evil'. These petitions and all, along with other instruments do yield an effect. Though it takes a decade to build up.
If that is your argument, then you're in a lot of trouble.

Besides, within a decade or two, Pakistan will be (much like India) self sufficient.

Oh and if believing in conspiracy theories is worth banning, then half of Pakistan's entire population will need to be banned.
Their conspiracies start from -
9/11 an inside job
26/11 inside job
All terrorist activities world over inside jobs except for pakistan
Jews out to get Pakistan.

All these just off the top of my head.
It's not the conspiracy theory, it's the trolling.
 
If that is your argument, then you're in a lot of trouble.

Besides, within a decade or two, Pakistan will be (much like India) self sufficient.
No Im not. The wheels are in motion. If you are unable to see that, its your problem. Democracies always have a way of manifesting popular desire into some kind of outcome. It can be delayed, but it eventually happens.

On the last part, so you say. I heard the same statements from Pakistanis in the 80's, then the 90's then the 2000's. So sorry, been hearing such statements for a long time.
 
No Im not. The wheels are in motion. If you are unable to see that, its your problem. Democracies always have a way of manifesting popular desire into some kind of outcome. It can be delayed, but it eventually happens.

On the last part, so you say. I heard the same statements from Pakistanis in the 80's, then the 90's then the 2000's. So sorry, been hearing such statements for a long time.
All you're doing is twirling your mustache and exclaiming your grand plan, like it is fool proof.

As for whatever you heard, I have numbers by my side, you just have your mustache.
 
I think Pakistan was already declared terroist state and Pakistanis were already declared terrrists, by US senate in a bill introduced by Kerry Lugar, back in Zardari era !
Why repetition of same thing, at this point in time?

They are repeating in the hope they can pressurize Pakistan to tow their line. LOL Silly Americans are ill informed. Times and circumstances have changed.
 
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All you're doing is twirling your mustache and exclaiming your grand plan, like it is fool proof.

As for whatever you heard, I have numbers by my side, you just have your mustache.
Do share those numbers?
Don't share projections. Do share numbers.

Do show whether the electricity deficit was more in the 80's than it is now. Do show that poverty and hunger were more in Pakistan than they are now?
Do show that your forex reserves have risen dramatically in the last 1.5 decades?
Or steel production?

Remember, its all a game of percent as while absolute increases due to increase in population, it is the relative percentage that matter.
Please. Show something.
 
Theres nothing much that will happen out of this petition, US will follow what it wants. If US wanted to do it they would have declared pakistan as terrorist state long time back when bin laden was found. To imagine that this petition is going to achieve it bcos India wants it is nonsense. Its just another trick for some senators to make some good money for lobbying.
 
If that is your argument, then you're in a lot of trouble.

Besides, within a decade or two, Pakistan will be (much like India) self sufficient.
You are already self sufficient in export one of your quality product famous world wide...Recently raised by many in many international organizations...

Theres nothing much that will happen out of this petition, US will follow what it wants. If US wanted to do it they would have declared pakistan as terrorist state long time back when bin laden was found. To imagine that this petition is going to achieve it bcos India wants it is nonsense. Its just another trick for some senators to make some good money for lobbying.
Only thing that will happen is, America will use this as a base in future if they are really pissed off of Pakistan and want to find an excuse to push some one sided resolution against Pakistan.
 
It's silly to even think that Pakistan gives any importance to such petitions, or even direct statements by the US or whatever government. If the words and petitions and resolutions carried any worth more than the piece of paper on which they are printed then Kashmir would have gotten a plebiscite under UN auspices

And we have braved the US sanctions in the past so we are well past that era of bullying, and we have come out strong from the terrorism web that was woven around and inside Pakistan to incapacitate it. We have tapped on our own internal potential as well as opened newer avenues for opportunities globally as well rather than putting all our eggs in a single basket

You keep believing what you want - the fact is Pakistan is here to stay and no power on earth can undo Pakistan
 
'Declare Pak Terror Sponsor': Petition In US Qualifies For Official Response

New York: An online White House petition asking for Pakistan to be declared as a state sponsor of terrorism has crossed 100,000 signatures, thus qualifying to get a response from the Obama administration.

The online petition launched by Indian-Americans last week has become the third most popular petition on the White House website with nearly 110,000 people signing the petition. The Obama administration is expected to respond to it within 60 days.

The online petition was created on September 21.

Congressman Ted Poe, Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Terrorism, along with Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, introduced the 'Pakistan State Sponsor of Terrorism Designation Act' in the House of Representatives.

"This petition is important to the people of United States of America, India and many other countries which are continuously affected by Pakistan-sponsored terrorism," the petition said.

An initiative of the US President Barack Obama, "We the People" online petition at the White House website provides a window to American citizens to campaign before the administration on a particular issue.

Currently on top of the list is the petition seeking to stop construction of "Dakota Access Pipeline" which has more than 210,000 signatures, followed by another petition seeking not to make "Kratom a schedule I substance" which has 137,000 signatures.

Meanwhile the White House said that it is currently focused on enhancing its counter-terrorism capabilities with Pakistan.

"That (designating state sponsor of terrorism) is a very specific process and determination that involves a legal process and assessment," White House Deputy spokesperson Mark Toner said.

"Our focus with Pakistan is to enhance their capability and to deal with terrorist threats on their soil. They are fighting a serious and sustained campaign against violent extremism," he said.

"We do believe that they are making progress and taking steps to counter terrorist violence, but at the same time we have been very clear that they need to target all terrorist groups, including those that target Pakistan's neighbours, and close all safe havens," Mr Toner said.

Mark Toner reiterated that it is the longstanding American position that the US believes India and Pakistan really stand to benefit from the normalisation of relations.

"We encourage both India and Pakistan to pursue and engage in direct dialogue that is aimed at reducing tensions," he said.

"We have long said that with regard to Pakistan, with regard to India, with regard to the region, there is no zero-sum game here. We are pursuing very close relations with India," the deputy spokesperson said.

"We have a deep and broad bilateral relationship and multilateral relationship, or work our multilateral issues with India. They are the world's largest democracy and we share a very similar vision of the world. And we obviously have very close trade and economic ties with India, and also that extends to security cooperation," he said.

"Similarly, we want to see Pakistan better able to respond to the threat that terrorism poses and terrorist groups that seek refuge in its territory," Mr Toner added.

http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/whit...-000-signatures-1466880?pfrom=home-topstories
All my sympathies with Indians. After failure on diplomatic front, they are trying to satisfy Indian using such online dramas.

Better luck next time.
 
Oh, its not Indian influence that's at work.

You think one after another popular US tv shows or Hollywood productions portray Pakistan as a jihadist country with nuclear weapons because of Indian influence?

It is you my friend who overestimates Indian influence.

I said, this is just a start. It is starting to embed in public memory the 'Pakistan is evil'. These petitions and all, along with other instruments do yield an effect. Though it takes a decade to build up.

I know like one after another TV show that shows every Indian men and women as GAY!!!!!! I love those shows, I am sorry, but what was your point?
 
Do share those numbers?
Don't share projections. Do share numbers.

Do show whether the electricity deficit was more in the 80's than it is now. Do show that poverty and hunger were more in Pakistan than they are now?
Do show that your forex reserves have risen dramatically in the last 1.5 decades?
Or steel production?

Remember, its all a game of percent as while absolute increases due to increase in population, it is the relative percentage that matter.
Please. Show something.
https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf

http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/pakistan

https://www.imf.org/external/country/PAK/

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1188408/poverty-eradication-challenge-modi-might-eat-words/

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/foreign-exchange-reserves

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/gdp-per-capita

https://www.geo.tv/latest/114047-Pakistans-foreign-exchange-reserves-at-all-time-high-PM-Nawaz

You have zero idea how economics work; Your comment is worthless.

You are already self sufficient in export one of your quality product famous world wide...Recently raised by many in many international organizations...
Funny, I could say the same for India.

Don't be a smart ***.
 
100K is not a big number..lets flood the white house website with petitions..
Few I can think of...


  1. End India water terrorism
  2. Declare Mukhti Bahni, BLA, BRA, LTTE to be terrorist organisations and their supports to be state sponsor of terrorism.
  3. End Indian interference in Baluchistan..
Requesting members to expand the list..

This will be Obama response.

 

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