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days when Afghanistan was used by others as so-called "strategic depth" are over : India At UN

United Nations:
The days when Afghanistan was used by others as so-called "strategic depth" are over, India said, asserting that such skewed approaches have only brought misery to the people of Afghanistan and mayhem in the region.

Secretary (West) in the Ministry of External Affairs, Sanjay Verma addressed a UN Security Council briefing on Afghanistan on Tuesday and said peace and stability in Afghanistan are critical imperatives that the international community needs to collectively strive for.

He also said that India will continue to play its role in pursuit of this objective and that the interests of the Afghan people will continue to be at the core of New Delhi's efforts.


"The days when Afghanistan was used by others as so-called 'strategic depth' are over. Such skewed approaches have only brought misery to the people of Afghanistan and mayhem in the region," he said.

Mr Verma said India is closely monitoring the security situation in Afghanistan and is actively engaged with the international community on issues related to that country.

"Terrorist attacks have targeted public spaces like places of worship and educational institutes, especially of minorities, as well as diplomatic premises. This is a concerning trend," he said.

He noted that the collective approach of the international community has been articulated in the Security Council Resolution 2593, which unequivocally demands that the territory of Afghanistan should not be used for sheltering, training, planning, or financing terrorist acts, specifically terrorist individuals and entities proscribed by the UN Security Council, including Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and Jaish-e-Mohammad.

The senior official also noted that closely linked to the issue of terrorism is the menace of drug trafficking. "It is important for us to strengthen international cooperation to disrupt and dismantle the trafficking networks," he said.

On the political front, Mr Verma said India continues to call for an inclusive dispensation in Afghanistan which represents all sections of the Afghan society. A broad-based, inclusive, and representative formation is necessary for long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan, and in turn, for economic recovery and development, he added.

Mr Verma said India has direct stakes in ensuring the return of peace and stability to Afghanistan, "given our position as a contiguous neighbour and long-standing partner of Afghanistan, as well as our strong historical and civilizational linkages to the Afghan people. Our approach to Afghanistan, as always, will be guided by our historical friendship and our special relationship with the people of Afghanistan." Voicing deep concern at the unfolding humanitarian situation in Afghanistan, he said India has dispatched several shipments of humanitarian assistance to Afghanistan and is committed to continue helping Afghans going forward as well.

India's main priorities in Afghanistan include providing immediate humanitarian assistance for the Afghan people, formation of a truly inclusive and representative government, combating terrorism and drug trafficking and preserving the rights of women, children, and minorities, Mr Verma said, adding that these benchmarks were also set forth by the UNSC Resolution 2593 which guides the international community's approach towards Afghanistan.



Acknowledging that the statement will probably be India's last on Afghanistan in its current tenure as Security Council member, Mr Verma said as a close neighbour, "Afghanistan will continue to remain in our hearts and we will continue to speak out in support of the Afghan people." India's 2021-22 term on the Council as elected member ends this month. The country has declared its candidature for the 2028-29 term on the Security Council.



Hilariously these idiots also include the US in their statement.
 
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Where are you Northern Alliance buddies? I heard some are hiding in Pakistan. The same country they hate. Some are seeking asylum in Western countries. When is India going to provide asylum to millions of Afghans? What kind of brother are you? One that only rambles on PDF?
India is not lost anything, buddy!!! For India - it is always a win-win situation..

What do you think Pakistan got by supporting the USA from 1979?

Do you get love & support from the afghan people, or support from the Taliban government and other tactical advantages?
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Nah, actually you are in a total mess situation. It is a correct said ""Hillary Clinton actually said that if you have snakes in your backyard, you can’t expect them to bite only your neighbors."

That is also true that milk for those snakes was arranged by USA. but, USA is not suffering.... they achieved what they were supposed to.... left you with them.......... now only, you are the one who is suffering...
 
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okay? What they gonna do about it?

India is not lost anything, buddy!!! For India - it is always a win-win situation..

What do you think Pakistan got by supporting the USA from 1979?

Do you get love & support from the afghan people, or support from Taliban Afghani government and other tactical advantages?
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Nah, actually are in a total mess situation. It is a correct ""Hillary Clinton actually said that if you have snakes in your backyard, you can’t expect them to bite only your neighbors."

That is also true that milk for those snakes is arranged by USA only. but, USA is not suffering.... they achieved what they were supposed to.... left you with them.......... now only, you are the one who is suffering...
I don't know, ask Jaishankar what he was crying about Pakistan to the US lately :)
 
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okay? What they gonna do about it?


I don't know, ask Jaishankar what he was crying about Pakistan to the US lately :)

because we never support to Taliban....... it was expected when the Taliban government will return, whatever they are doing with women in Afghanistan now.. only government will support them, who do not care about any Afghan people and women in Afghanistan...... they only care about own interests..
 
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because we never support to Taliban....... it was expected when the Taliban government will return, whatever they are doing with women in Afghanistan now.. only government will support them, who do not care about any Afghan people and women in Afghanistan...... they only care about own interests..
You didn't answer my question
 
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India-afghani Bhai Bhai ... Good for India!.. well-done on your strategy. India won. Pakistan lost.

Pakistan lost due to its own Treasonous Generals

People sitting inside Pakistan have no clue the disdain and hatred the Afghans have for Pakistan purely due to the fact that the Afghans blame Pakistani Generals for the destruction of their country for 4-decades. Due to the greed of Military and Financial aid, the Pakistani Generals actively participated in this destruction with US support.
 
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Who coined strategic depth? British? After 1822 great game?
I heard the first time this thought was used by Pak establishments after 71, or before? when the communist regime in Kabul started hostility.
The Afghan embassy in India was conspiring to repeat 71 from the Afghan side.
this term was never used by Pakistani establishment. only people like Ahmed rashid exiled to UK and Najam Sethi used this term in their mock articles on Pakistan army . the word bajwa doctrine was also coined by some program host /journalist writer

TTP never existed before war on terror. their leadership had no background or role in Kashmir war as alleged by Indians and some Pakistani journalists that seek brownie points from international press. the TTP is mainly made up of Sipah Sahabah and lashkar Jhangvi which made its name mainly through targeting shia community . this is something which TTP has also adapted as its core policy so when its not attacking the military or say when it is at peace with the state then it only targets the shia community .

at no point these organizations fought the soviet, Americans or the Indians. the members of these organizations go between Alqaeda, TTP and Daesh. they might have escaped to Afghanistan to seek refuge but they never fought Afghans or any occupation force. latif ullah Mehsood a TTP leader was in fact under the protection of Afghan intelligence of Northern Alliance regime when Americans snatched him from the scumbags and handed him over to Pakistan as a part of some deal for which President Karzai ranted for a long time shamelessly that Americans broke his trust.
 
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this is something which TTP has also adapted as its core policy so when its not attacking the military or say when it is at peace with the state then it only targets the shia community .
Given what you said above we then assume that TTP attacks on minorities are state sponsored?
 
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People sitting inside Pakistan have no clue the disdain and hatred the Afghans have for Pakistan purely due to the fact that the Afghans blame Pakistani Generals for the destruction of their country for 4-decades. Due to the greed of Military and Financial aid, the Pakistani Generals actively participated in this destruction with US support.
an easy and popular opinion which is a partial truth.
the Afghan warlords and drug barons are far more responsible for the destruction of their country than some Pakistani generals who only had a partial influence on one or two factions of Afghan Pashtuns.

I will say this to all gutted PTI fan who is butthurt over the betrayal of Gen Bajwa. please dont parrot the anti Pakistan narrative and look like a fool. Northern Alliance policies of Pashtun persecution and harsh treatment fueled the support for Afghan Taliban. Northern Alliance is made up of thugs , rapists and killers the only thing that makes west ignore all of this is they are so called secular. their thuggery and corruption was so massive that even the non Pashtun population was fed-up with them and the Afghan Taliban for the first time made inroads into the north as well. no tear was dropped for the fall of that corrupt Afghan regime. the last scum bag ran off with tons of money with him.
if anyone still blames some Pakistani General then he deserves his head to be lodged forcefully in a public toilet of a busy Pakistani bus station.
 
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the members of these organizations go between Alqaeda, TTP and Daesh. they might have escaped to Afghanistan to seek refuge but they never fought Afghans or any occupation force. latif ullah Mehsood a TTP leader was in fact under the protection of Afghan intelligence of Northern Alliance regime when Americans snatched him from the scumbags and handed him over to Pakistan as a part of some deal for which President Karzai ranted for a long time shamelessly that Americans broke his trust.
One of the top leaders was a flower seller. TTP take a ceasefire when they are weak and regroup.
this term was never used by Pakistani establishment.
I thought Pak army used it as a precedent. Technically, British-India actually kept Afghanistan as a backyard
 
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Yep, India was kicked out last year's after 20 years of plotting and planning for this reason alone
Yet here we are, taking blows after blows. I rather be the loser India is in this situation than the so called winner that Pakistan is.
 
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Actually, Pakistan is clueless here.

When USA was there then you were supporting to Taliban.. were talking about Indian bases and involvement in Afghanistan. now after, Taliban government and attacks have increased in Pakistan and then shifted to only TTP.....

Pakistan's government is unsure.... what to say, do need to support or talk against the Taliban or avoid saying anything....... what would be happened about CHURAN which was given to Pakistani people before the Taliban government...

PAK establishment is totally confused and clueless now...
No matter the outcome of the American war, the outcome of increased terrorism was certain.

It was choosing between which government could be more easily negotiated with to crack down on them.

Afghanistan's terrain and the porous border means regardless of the government, they can carry out attacks if they like.
 
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Given what you said above we then assume that TTP attacks on minorities are state sponsored?

the thing is
a footprint of such attacks is not that drastic so it doesn't shake the national conscience. you can assume whatever you like. the state is incapable of protecting even the general public let alone the persecuted Hazara community. and regular deadly attacks faced by Ahemdi community as well as the Hindu community facing forced conversion and marriages. state is not sponsoring it but not doing much to prevent it either. a customary condemnation statements are made over the loss of lives ( except for Ahmedis, even showing humane sympathy risks you getting branded a kafir)

Hilariously these idiots also include the US in their statement.
Taliban was combined project of Pakistan, KSA and America.
to bring some order in Afghanistan when the warlords were unwilling to end the perpetual war despite appeals from the world. it was done during the democratic secular government of Pakistan peoples party led by PM Benazir Bhutto.
the Taliban did end the civil war. they were the Allies Tanks that ended the WW2 trench warfare of machine guns and swept the floor with opposing drug lords and warlords that later formed northern alliance. but Taliban being typical Afghans sold themselves to Osama Bin laden and became willing hosts of Al Qaeda and rest is history,
 
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an easy and popular opinion which is a partial truth.
the Afghan warlords and drug barons are far more responsible for the destruction of their country than some Pakistani generals who only had a partial influence on one or two factions of Afghan Pashtuns.

I will say this to all gutted PTI fan who is butthurt over the betrayal of Gen Bajwa. please dont parrot the anti Pakistan narrative and look like a fool. Northern Alliance policies of Pashtun persecution and harsh treatment fueled the support for Afghan Taliban. Northern Alliance is made up of thugs , rapists and killers the only thing that makes west ignore all of this is they are so called secular. their thuggery and corruption was so massive that even the non Pashtun population was fed-up with them and the Afghan Taliban for the first time made inroads into the north as well. no tear was dropped for the fall of that corrupt Afghan regime. the last scum bag ran off with tons of money with him.
if anyone still blames some Pakistani General then he deserves his head to be lodged forcefully in a public toilet of a busy Pakistani bus station.

Sir,

The real question "Why the hell was Pakistan supposed to get involved because it was an internal issue?

But the only fact is that the Soviet Union tried to establish a puppet government in Afghanistan but it was totally against the USA interests. yes, many core Talabani groups pump-up who were believing in such Taliban Islamic society.

Therefore, it was fueled by USA by interfering in Afghanistan thru Pakistan's support. Even Iran faced the same refugee challenges as similar as Pakistan but they did not get directly involved in the war.

But, Pakistan was an opportunity to get the full support of USA by getting dollars, Military arms & weapon supports.

It was a mistake that happened when you joined the war against Soviet Union. Seriously, USA just abandoned to you after they succeed in 1992.

Pakistan enjoyed a brief period from 1992 to 9-11-2001... This was the reason also Pakistan was doing two things - joined war against the Taliban in the public face but in reality, behind the scene was supporting them.

After USA withdrawal, PAK establishment thought that again we will repeat the same situation and will enjoy as much Afghanistan as 1990's but it is not happening..

It is now a new challenge for Pakistan to deal with Taliban................................. You can not blame on any other country, whatever is the situation now " Pakistan itself is responsible"... you only chose this option and no one forced it on you.
 
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