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[Abingdonboy]

I dont think we even need BRIMSTONE..HELINA is the way to go..
As days are passing I am having doubts with EF..No need to get fancy aircrafts with not fully developed envelope..
Get F-16/F-18 and stop this Drama..

I'm with you, initially I would've loved to see the EFT with IAF roundals on their wings, soaring through the Indian skies but now it seems the EFT is a bit of a mess. Although EADS asserts that the A2G capability on the Tranche 3 offered to IAF is fully matured, and the EFT must have met IAF criteria in weapons trials. I'm just not sure. It seems the EFT has a lot of work still to be done and I don't know if it will be done as the Europeans cut back on defence. It seems though my previous second favourite- the Rafele is a real winner- Libya has just proved it. Also some other pluses- advanced stage of AESA development (2013 serial production) and Rafele-M could be great for N-MMRCA.

 

[sancho]

I dont think we even need BRIMSTONE..HELINA is the way to go..
As days are passing I am having doubts with EF..No need to get fancy aircrafts with not fully developed envelope..
Get F-16/F-18 and stop this Drama..

As I said, I would prefer Helina as well, but the point is which weapons will be integrated and available in the fighters. I said it from the start, that as long as the Tranche 3 is not officially fixed by the partner countries, IAF can only take those weapons and capabilities to account that are available now and they are more than limited!

Rafale remains to be the best fighter for Indian forces, but they don't decide about it, so we have to wait and see.

I'm with you, initially I would've loved to see the EFT with IAF roundals on their wings, soaring through the Indian skies but now it seems the EFT is a bit of a mess. Although EADS asserts that the A2G capability on the Tranche 3 offered to IAF is fully matured, and the EFT must have met IAF criteria in weapons trials. I'm just not sure. It seems the EFT has a lot of work still to be done and I don't know if it will be done as the Europeans cut back on defence. It seems though my previous second favourite- the Rafele is a real winner- Libya has just proved it. Also some other pluses- advanced stage of AESA development (2013 serial production) and Rafele-M could be great for N-MMRCA.

EADS is just a company of the EF consortium, but the A2G capabilities, just like the T3 upgrade depends on the fundings of the EF partner countries! As long as they don't decide about these things, AESA, CFTs, TVC, Sea Typhoon, anti tank, anti ship, standoff and cruise missiles are not cleared and requires our money as a new partner to make the fighter capable.
Imo that's too expensive, too delayed and don't fit to the operational requirements of our forces, while Rafale offers the complete opposite (less expensive through commonality and funded techs, or weapons. Operational, proven and can be inducted faster than any other fighter. Offers excellent capabilities for IAF, IN and SFC)!

 

[luckyyy]

I dont think we even need BRIMSTONE..HELINA is the way to go..
As days are passing I am having doubts with EF..No need to get fancy aircrafts with not fully developed envelope..
Get F-16/F-18 and stop this Drama..

i never gets what's the logic buying a twine engine fighter again in MMRCA when IAF already operating SU-30MKI , i mean inplace buying another twine engine platform , why not just add more MKIs .....atleast it will significatly reduce the infrastructure and training burden that a new platform will bring...

 

[jha]

GE Brings Good Things To Hornet, Gripen

At yesterday's roll-out of the 500th Super Hornet/Growler, Boeing program vice-president Kory Mathews confirmed that the F414 Enhanced Performance Engine would be the baseline for the company's offer to India. The idea of the engine has been around for some time, but GE is clearly ready to commit the funds necessary to make the engine a reality.

The new engine offers up to a 20 percent thrust boost. That would take the EPE up to 26,500 pounds of thrust, giving it the best thrust/weight ratio of any fighter engine -- almost 11:1. Alternatively (an option understood to be attracting interest at Saab) the EPE could be delivered with a 10 percent uprate and very generous temperature margins, extending its life and reducing fighter life-cycle costs.

The EPE "will not make much difference at an air show", says Boeing chief test pilot Ric Traven, but dramatically improves the fighter's performance at high speed and altitude, halving supersonic acceleration times. For the Gripen, the extra thrust would translate into further-improved supercruise (supersonic level flight without afterburner) capability.

MILITARY AVIATION AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY NEWS: GE Brings Good Things To Hornet, Gripen

 

[jha]

Chances for EF are getting slim..

 

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[kingdurgaking]

GE Brings Good Things To Hornet, Gripen

MILITARY AVIATION AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY NEWS: GE Brings Good Things To Hornet, Gripen

Looks like DBC wins the war with sancho on EPE engine ..... seems GE themselves are going to fund on there own...

 

[jha]

Looks like DBC wins the war with sancho on EPE engine ..... seems GE themselves are going to fund on their own...

Always a treat..

 

[angeldemon_007]

This engine on gripen would be great.....i hope we go for NG or rafale....

 

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