Damage report 2012 PAF Saab Erieye Awacs

[Zarvan]

So if I am right two AWACS were damaged and both recovered

By the way this shows we can easily make a Air Craft in Pakistan than why not try to develop a EW and Awac in Pakistan

@Tipu7 @Foxtrot Alpha @Sulman Badshah @Safriz

if this is true the army chief should be "hanged"..
for not forcing civilian govt for bullets and minimum required budget..
also the brigd running POF should be "hanged" as well...
they are ready to bring martial law if there personal security or BMW is in trouble but not having bullets??

POF is run by Lt General

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Recovering a written off asset/airframe is harder than making a new one. So yeah the required expertise/talent base is there. All that is left are motivation, political interest/leadership, some monetary investment and a bit of cunning business.

So if I am right two AWACS were damaged and both recovered

By the way this shows we can easily make a Air Craft in Pakistan than why not try to develop a EW and Awac in Pakistan

@Tipu7 @Foxtrot Alpha @Sulman Badshah @Safriz


POF is run by Lt General

 

[Jungibaaz]

Both types of aircraft were playing a stellar role in WoT. That was reason for strike against them. Now if RaW or any other intel agency had a role...well i would not be surprised.

However, the claim that the Orions targeted were the ones modified for Harpoon ALCM launch, then that claim IMHO does not hold water as the missiles were modified and not the planes. US personnel checked the missiles and personnel who were there on the Orion project were there for the P3CUP project.

I'm not savvy to the details of either attack, but it seems to me that logically, it must have been Indian sponsored and directed.

TTP aren't afraid of their non-existent subs and fighters being picked up by Orions and Erieyes respectively, as well as Kamra itself. And of all the high value targets in Pakistan, why would any militants choose those which provide the most capability against India specifically?

 

[Blacklight]

They made it there
At first I didn't believe the story that how could it be possible but then it makes sense when i iook in past now

Brother, you are a responsible member of this forum, why such statements, even if true?

 

[ali_raza]

However the two Orion's destroyed during PNS Mehran attack wete the exact same serial numbers inspected by US investigators after allegations of modifying airframe and firmware for Harpoon missile ground attack converting.
US destroyed those two and replaced them free.
But the lives of our soldiers lost in the US sponsored terrorism obviously can't be replaced.

these were the planes without bugs

 

[HRK]

It must be remembered forever that AWACS and P3s were deliberately targeted.

We should've made an example out of those responsible for the catastrophic security failure which led to the destruction of four precious aircraft in Mehran base and Kamra. But as usual, no heads rolled as far as I remember.

Court Martial were conducted but not made public ....

 

[Safriz]

Both types of aircraft were playing a stellar role in WoT. That was reason for strike against them. Now if RaW or any other intel agency had a role...well i would not be surprised.

However, the claim that the Orions targeted were the ones modified for Harpoon ALCM launch, then that claim IMHO does not hold water as the missiles were modified and not the planes. US personnel checked the missiles and personnel who were there on the Orion project were there for the P3CUP project.

Hi,
What role Erieye played in WOT?

if this is true the army chief should be "hanged"..
for not forcing civilian govt for bullets and minimum required budget..
also the brigd running POF should be "hanged" as well...
they are ready to bring martial law if there personal security or BMW is in trouble but not having bullets??

Yeah and you keep on shoutu#ing Jiey zardari and keep on electing the same crooks again and again...
21 cannon salute to your metality.

these were the planes without bugs

The full report is in Wiki leaks.
Back in the days i spent a lot of time looking into the matter and found out that these were the same planes which were inspected and cleared.
The wiki leaks document is still on the internet and you are free to run your own investigation.

 

[Sine Nomine]

if this is true the army chief should be "hanged"..
for not forcing civilian govt for bullets and minimum required budget..
also the brigd running POF should be "hanged" as well...
they are ready to bring martial law if there personal security or BMW is in trouble but not having bullets??

He is just lying,Govt forces even your local Police has got millions of rounds of all type of ammo at their disposal and here we are talking about Defence Forces,he has no idea how ammo is supplied and replenished.Govt entities have ammo dumps which can sustain several pitched battles at against level of their own strength.Every sentry has ammo which can sustain fair amount of fire fight until arrival of reinforcements.

Story narrated to me was that the attackers had enough time to sit in cockpit of the A/C, took a sip of tea from mugs before lodging grenades towards the back......

There was nothing like that,they came with complete info, required trg for such ops at tactical level and were probably trained outside Pakistan,they took out first guard,fought second while firing RPG's on targets and were finished when reinforcements arrived.

 

[Safriz]

He is just lying,Govt forces even your local Police has got millions of rounds of all type of ammo at their disposal and here we are talking about Defence Forces,he has no idea how ammo is supplied and replenished.Govt entities have ammo dumps which can sustain several pitched battles at against level of their own strength.Every sentry has ammo which can sustain fair amount of fire fight until arrival of reinforcements.


There was nothing like that,they came with complete info, required trg for such ops at tactical level and were probably trained outside Pakistan,they took out first guard,fought second while firing RPG's on targets and were finished when reinforcements arrived.

Bhai you joined the forum in 2014.
Many of us were here sitting in front of the TV watching live transmission of Kamra attack and discussing every possibility and eventuality.
There is a thousand page thread on the matter, if you go through the pages , you will find news reports saying the same that sentries didn't have bullets to fight terrorists.
In those days even FC Balochistan had one gun per two persons and they were supposed to fight BLA.

Plus Zardari started robbing the Air force budget as soon as he came to power in 2008. In 2012 it was fourth consecutive year of air force getting just 60% budget and 40% not getting released by MOD.
More than 50% of armed forces budget goes into paying wages. Then the rest is for buying essentials such as fuel for the planes and spares and then comes ammunition for the sentries.
So yes there was no money left.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Bhai you joined the forum in 2014.
Many of us were here sitting in front of the TV watching live transmission of Kamra attack and discussing every possibility and eventuality.
There is a thousand page thread on the matter, if you go through the pages , you will find news reports saying the same that sentries didn't have bullets to fight terrorists.
In those days even FC Balochistan had one gun per two persons and they were supposed to fight BLA.

No buddy you are wrong. You think they will come after such high profile targets without doing their homework.

 

[Safriz]

No buddy you are wrong. You think they will come after such high profile targets without doing their homework.

What homework?

 

[PakShaheen79]

Enemy attacked our eyes in the sky. We bounced back, not only repaired our platform but also gave a jaw breaking reply on 27th Feb 2019 using same assets.

 

[Safriz]

Enemy attacked our eyes in the sky. We bounced back, not only repaired our platform but also gave a jaw breaking reply on 27th Feb 2019 using same assets.

Thats the difference between Indian and Pakistani mentality.
ASbhinandan got shot down and was a lost sheep. Still got praised and awarded.
In Pakistan people say we shouldnt even celebrate 27th February as it was nothing.
We wont forget our armed forces mistakes, and wont praise their comebacks.
I am not sure how our armed forces even keep their morale high for such a thankless and in many ways "Not worh fighting for" nation.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

It must be remembered forever that AWACS and P3s were deliberately targeted.

Do remember one thing. Any critical useful technology you get in future which India lacks and considers it a serious threat than get ready to protect that asset/technology 24x7

 

[Thorough Pro]

By this logic, all car mechanics doing denting painting should be able to design and manufacture automobiles including engines, electronic components, computers and their software.

So if I am right two AWACS were damaged and both recovered

By the way this shows we can easily make a Air Craft in Pakistan than why not try to develop a EW and Awac in Pakistan

@Tipu7 @Foxtrot Alpha @Sulman Badshah @Safriz


POF is run by Lt General