Crackdown on freedoms? Australian Senate passes draconian anti-terror laws

[Reashot Xigwin]

Abbot has managed to scare the shit out of an entire country with no evidence placed before the public of a valid threat. He is trying to turn the non existent threat from ISIS into a political tool. Scare the people so they see you as a saviour. Just like an xxxhole needs a bigger xxxhole in order to look good.

What Tony Abbot? It is absurd I tell you, absurd.

Oh & people saying which country treat its minority worse between India & Pakistan. The truth is you guys are both terrible.

 

[DingDong]

Free world needs such laws to deal with the menace. Time for India to bring POTA back.

 

[qamar1990]

What percentage of minorities have you left in your country.

Muslims- 97%
Christian, Hindu, Buddhist, Parsi, Punjabi etc- 3%

And when other countries take even minimum safety measures you talk about freedom of religions. What a hypocrisy.

because thats how we are… we always get what we want..
you got a problem baniya?

 

[Fireurimagination]

There country their laws, anyways it's better to be safe than being sorry

 

[Maaaz Khan]

Australian senate gone mad.

 

[Gibbs]

The right to life of every single Australian is way more important than the right for some extremist brain washed loonies right to exploit Australian laws and loop holes in it to commit murder in the name of their twisted version of Islam

So kudos to the Aussie govt and the senate

 

[Zarvan]

Abbot has managed to scare the shit out of an entire country with no evidence placed before the public of a valid threat. He is trying to turn the non existent threat from ISIS into a political tool. Scare the people so they see you as a saviour. Just like an xxxhole needs a bigger xxxhole in order to look good.

Well Australian Muslims and Muslim organisations are quite in active in Australia but they are mostly focused on preaching I haven't learn of any Australian fighting in ISIS yes there are some scholars who Australians don't lie for example Sheikh Feiz Muhammad but this man is crying more than what reality is

 

[Jaanbaz]

UK could learn a lot from Australia. UK has been pandering to extremists. Right now UK is a operational base for cave dwelling extremists who hate the West yet claim benefits and enjoy the free haram life here.

 

[Gibbs]

Well Australian Muslims and Muslim organisations are quite in active in Australia but they are mostly focused on preaching I haven't learn of any Australian fighting in ISIS yes there are some scholars who Australians don't lie for example Sheikh Feiz Muhammad but this man is crying more than what reality is

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Authorities believe that around 150 Australians are currently fighting alongside ISIS in Iraq and Syria, making the country the highest foreign per capita contributor to the violence. Many more have left the country for the Middle East in recent weeks, though their intent in doing so has not yet been determined.

ISIS Foreign Fighters: Per Capita, Australia Is the Biggest Source

 

[wolfschanzze]

Good job,Australia, most of these Jihadis hide in the name of freedom of expression,free speech,democracy and human rights while they abuse the same rights to the fullest extent.
many Radical islamic clerics have come to Australia and were radicalizing people.This will give the Intel Agencies the power they need to go after such radicals.
"Prevention is better than Cure".
How can this law be Draconian compared to beheadings,selling sexual slaves in market,bombing everything like Boko haram,ISIS etc.
Sometimes to protect your way of life you have to take tough measures even if it means antagonizing a few people.
In the end it is for the greater good.

 

[Developereo]

The usual Indian bigots are out in force, but what they don't see -- or want to see -- is that the law gives authorities the right to kill a suspect.

In other words, it's open season to shoot and kill anyone who looks Middle Eastern.

Unlike most other civilized countries, Australia already has laws in place to keep a person in custody indefinitely without actually charging them. All they need is a renewal from the courts every few weeks..

For those who don't know the numbers. In the recent "terror" raids,
- DOZENS of homes were raided
- HUNDREDS of Muslim civilians were terrorized
- FIFTEEN people were arrested
- THREE were detained
- ONE was released on bail
- ZERO were charged with terrorism

While we all agree that authorities should do what's necessary to squash terrorism, there was no reason to turn the raids into a media circus. Very badly handled by the authorities.

Is it more draconian than Jihadis Beheading innocent civilians..

The civilized law can't tame the terrorism. Even pakistan is looking for such tough laws.

These terrorists get acquitted using Human law, they terrorize

there are two race, Human and terrorists.. They are like Orcs of Mordor.. Entire Humanity is at stake..

I don't expect you to understand the difference between terrorists and law enforcement.

 

[DingDong]

The usual Indian bigots are out in force, but what they don't see -- or want to see -- is that the law gives authorities the right to kill a suspect.

In other words, it's open season to shoot and kill anyone who looks Middle Eastern.

Unlike most other civilized countries, Australia already has laws in place to keep a person in custody indefinitely without actually charging them. All they need is a renewal from the courts every few weeks..

For those who don't know the numbers. In the recent "terror" raids,
- DOZENS of homes were raided
- HUNDREDS of Muslim civilians were terrorized
- FIFTEEN people were arrested
- THREE were detained
- ONE was released on bail
- ZERO were charged with terrorism

While we all agree that authorities should do what's necessary to squash terrorism, there was no reason to turn the raids into a media circus. Very badly handled by the authorities.



I don't expect you to understand the difference between terrorists and law enforcement.

Remember Kenya Mall Attack where they killed anybody who did not look like a Muslim? Terrorists don't care about the Human rights and most countries will now adopt laws which subscribe to the idea of Collective Punishment. Collective Punishment worked well in Russia. Islamic terror is not reactionary, it is expansionist/hegemonic in nature. These people are not seeking justice for a particular community, they are seeking annihilation of all individuals who don't subscribe to a particular faith and they have received sufficient support from their people.

 

[Biplab Bijay]

So now govt. are terrorizing citizens so that terrorists don't terrorize them . Heights of stupidity , Whats the point of democracy if such draconian laws are put into place . National defense Authorization act and patriot act in US are no different ...

Your statements are example of Selective secularism.

 

[Developereo]

Remember Kenya Mall Attack where they killed anybody who did not look like a Muslim? Terrorists don't care about the Human rights and most countries will now adopt laws which subscribe to the idea of Collective Punishment. Collective Punishment worked well in Russia. Islamic terror is not reactionary, it is expansionist/hegemonic in nature. These people are not seeking justice for a particular community, they are seeking annihilation of all individuals who don't subscribe to a particular faith and they have received sufficient support from their people.

You don't have to keep posting to demonstrate your lack of knowledge in English, logic and history.

Your previous posts provide ample evidence.

 

[kbd-raaf]

I refuse to let my country be hamstrung in its fight against Islamist groups. Good form.