Court approves 20 days physical remand of traitor Khadim Hussain Rizvi

[TMA]

When God is allowing marriage of underage children (pedophilia) why should state not forbid the illegal practice?

Are you imposing upon God what is right and wrong?

It seems like this from what you have written.

 

[Wa Muhammada]

When God is allowing marriage of underage children (pedophilia) why should state not forbid the illegal practice?

أستغفر الله أستغفر الله أستغفر الله

Moderators plz ban this wretch

I can’t believe you just wrote that! What must be going through your mind!

 

[Norwegian]

Are you imposing upon God what is right and wrong?
It seems like this from what you have written.

I can’t believe you just wrote that! What must be going through your mind!

What did I say wrong? I was just quoting Islamic Ideology Council:
"ISLAMABAD- The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) ruled today that Pakistani laws prohibiting marriage of underage children are un-Islamic. At the end of its two-day session today, the CII said there is no minimum age of marriage according to Islam."
https://nation.com.pk/11-Mar-2014/l...riage-not-islamic-council-of-islamic-ideology

If you agree with there is no minimum age for marriage in Islam, and it is sanctioned by God, then state must intervene in this ideology to protect underage children from abuse.

 

[Dubious]

pure Sharia where there is no age restrictions and even 9 year old can be married off.

Dude kindly come out of the backward narrations of hearsay!

1) Aisha R.A. was engaged to another man, the engagement was broken because her family accepted Islam. Meaning she was of acceptable age at that time because she was engaged before...

2) But don’t the Hadiths say she was? Some do, but they all quote one very old man and are considered weak Hadiths. The Hadiths are the recollections of Muhammad’s Companions. Some are strong and well documented and supported. Others are weak because they are not supported, not witnessed by others, contradict others that are supported.

Here’s how we know Aisha was much older when married:

3) Aisha was always referred to as bikr, which literally means “an adult unmarried woman who is a virgin.” She was never referred to as a jariyah, which is a “young girl.”

“And make not over your property (property of the orphan), which Allah had made a (means of) support for you, to the weak of understanding, and maintain them out of it, clothe them and give them good education.
And test them until they reach the age of marriage. Then if you find them maturity of intellect, make over them their property...” (Quran, 4:5-6).

4) No seven year old, nor nine year old is mature enough to handle her own finances and property, yet Aisha was given hers at marriage.

5) Aisha’s exact birthday is unknown, but she was born *before* 610 CE when Islam was revealed.
Aisha is recorded as accepting Islam shortly after it was revealed. She could not have done so as an infant or toddler. The youngest she could have accepted Islam would be 7 y/o, but that’s a guess.
She was married in 622 CE 12 years after she accepted Islam. (7 + 12 =19 years).

6)Further, Aisha fought in the Battles of Badr and Uhud (624/5 respectively). No one *under* 15 fought in those battles, let alone be a leader of them.
Also, Asma, Aisha’s eldest sister (by ten years) died at age 100, 72 years after Aisha’s marriage.
Process of elimination and mathematics, Aisha could not have been married before she was 14 and the consummation before she was almost 20.

7) “The Quran states a woman's consent is essential, and the Sunnah confirms that both Aisha's betrothal and consummation occurred with Aisha's enthusiastic agreement. In fact, some even imply she went against the initial wishes of her Dad!”
By mathematical reasoning:
622 + 72 = 694 -100= 594 year of Asma’s birth.
622-594= 28 yr of Asma at Aisha’s wedding
Asma is recorded as ten years older than Aisha. Therefore:
28-10= 18 Aisha’s age at wedding.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

https://www.dawn.com/news/696084

What did I say wrong? I was just quoting Islamic Ideology Council:
"ISLAMABAD- The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) ruled today that Pakistani laws prohibiting marriage of underage children are un-Islamic. At the end of its two-day session today, the CII said there is no minimum age of marriage according to Islam."
https://nation.com.pk/11-Mar-2014/l...riage-not-islamic-council-of-islamic-ideology

If you agree with there is no minimum age for marriage in Islam, and it is sanctioned by God, then state must intervene in this ideology to protect underage children from abuse.

ERROR of MEN cant be superimposed as ALLAH's law! Or what the Quran said!

Kindly behave!

Kindly stick to topic!

 

[Norwegian]

28-10= 18 Aisha’s age at wedding

Exactly. This is what I am trying to say. 18 years should be minimum age of wedding / marriage. Instead Mullahs on this forum wants to remove minimum age based upon their wrong interpretations of Islam.

 

[Dubious]

Mullahs

Then blame them not Islam

 

[Wa Muhammada]

What did I say wrong? I was just quoting Islamic Ideology Council:
"ISLAMABAD- The Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) ruled today that Pakistani laws prohibiting marriage of underage children are un-Islamic. At the end of its two-day session today, the CII said there is no minimum age of marriage according to Islam."
https://nation.com.pk/11-Mar-2014/l...riage-not-islamic-council-of-islamic-ideology

If you agree with there is no minimum age for marriage in Islam, and it is sanctioned by God, then state must intervene in this ideology to protect underage children from abuse.

 

[TheNoob]

Then blame them not Islam

And that is what he did.

 

[GumNaam]

better free them and arrive agreement with them if baloch insurgents who killed many soldiers are allowed forgiveness why not same for those who never fought against army.Liberal extremism is threat to humanity in same manner like isis and ttp

the poor and misguided foot soldiers were given forgiveness as they were fooled into the hands of their leaders who manipulated them. the leaders themselves have not been given any forgiveness, they're being hunted down like dogs. khadim rizvi is the leader, not the foot soldier, and therefore deserves no forgiveness. him and pir padri should've known better than to issue "wajib-ul-qatal" fatwas against the CJP, COAS and PM.

 

[Dubious]

And that is what he did.

Read what post 137 quoted - THAT is exactly word for word what he said

 

[Yaseen1]

the poor and misguided foot soldiers were given forgiveness as they were fooled into the hands of their leaders who manipulated them. the leaders themselves have not been given any forgiveness, they're being hunted down like dogs. khadim rizvi is the leader, not the foot soldier, and therefore deserves no forgiveness. him and pir padri should've known better than to issue "wajib-ul-qatal" fatwas against the CJP, COAS and PM.

Many leaders were also given pardon like shahzan bugti and akhtar mengal

the poor and misguided foot soldiers were given forgiveness as they were fooled into the hands of their leaders who manipulated them. the leaders themselves have not been given any forgiveness, they're being hunted down like dogs. khadim rizvi is the leader, not the foot soldier, and therefore deserves no forgiveness. him and pir padri should've known better than to issue "wajib-ul-qatal" fatwas against the CJP, COAS and PM.

Many leaders were also given pardon like akhtar mengal and shahzan bugti

 

[GumNaam]

Many leaders were also given pardon like shahzan bugti and akhtar mengal


Many leaders were also given pardon like akhtar mengal and shahzan bugti

Only after they excepted to bow in front of the law of the land shunned violence altogether. khadim rizvi and pir padri haven't done so. Further more, none of those people actually tried to get the heads of state institutions murdered by inciting violence against those persons while khadim rizvi and pir padri did.

 

[Yaseen1]

Only after they excepted to bow in front of the law of the land shunned violence altogether. khadim rizvi and pir padri haven't done so. Further more, none of those people actually tried to get the heads of state institutions murdered by inciting violence against those persons while khadim rizvi and pir padri did.

They indirectly supported insurgents and defamed army by holding them responsible for missing persons and killing innocent people but khadim rizvi is not involved in killing of any soldier or judge yet and many people who use much bad language against army and judges on social media and in their gatherings are free

 

[GumNaam]

They indirectly supported insurgents and defamed army by holding them responsible for missing persons and killing innocent people but khadim rizvi is not involved in killing of any soldier or judge yet and many people who use much bad language against army and judges on social media and in their gatherings are free

Doesn't matter. Enough is enough of this going easy garbage. Obey and respect the law of the land or be thrown to the dogs. If your so much in love with khadim rizvi and pir padri then feel free to get beheaded on their behalf. But for the rest of who want nothing to do with his violent fitna, leave us be in peace. We're not the banana republic of india where lynchers and rapists walk free in the name threatening violence in the name of religion. This is PAKISTAN. Raise hell and they shall get hell in return. PERIOD!

 

[Yaseen1]

Doesn't matter. Enough is enough of this going easy garbage. Obey and respect the law of the land or be thrown to the dogs. If your so much in love with khadim rizvi and pir padri then feel free to get beheaded on their behalf. But for the rest of who want nothing to do with his violent fitna, leave us be in peace. We're not the banana republic of india where lynchers and rapists walk free in the name threatening violence in the name of religion. This is PAKISTAN. Raise hell and they shall get hell in return. PERIOD!

We will continue to face such incidents when we ignore real threats who are killing people actually everyday in balochistan and focusing on those who have never killed any one in suicide bombings and targetkillings when we not recognise our actual enemy things will become worst and blaming khadim rizvi for every matter will not solve problem he is not responsible for rape of minor girls by overseas Pakistanis in u.k and their is no evidence of this and lynching to death of Hafiz by christan mob in yohanazbad