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Coronavirus: US Now Has Third-Highest Number Of Cases In World, Surpassing Spain

This Indonesian who live in USA cannot get Covid 19 test although he got possibility to get it from conference that he attended (one of the participant is positive covid 19) and have had flu symptomp. Similar experience also happen with American actor who were interviewed by CNN just several hours ago.


Listen at minute 1.58 when he called hospital to get the test and then get rejected.
 
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Well, China did take far more drastic measures very quickly and very early like whole provincial, City lockdowns, building huge hospitals in matter of days and deploying their Army straight away.

How many large scale hospitals has the US built in the last couple of months? If none, why not? Has the Army been deployed? Why did the US did not even bother to mass produce simple face masks from January onwards?

The US had 2-3 months head start but they seem to have spent twiddling their thumbs.

Even if you ignore the Tot cases per 1m - which is very low for China and can possibly be explained by aggressive containment. The Tot cases per 1m is well below countries with much lower population density. But like I said ignore that number, look at the other numbers for China they has much lower fatalities and serious /critical cases for the total number infected.
 
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Not surprising , US has a huge population (330 Million ) and more flights land here from abroad than any other country so alot of people got affected.
 
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Not surprising , US has a huge population (330 Million ) and more flights land here from abroad than any other country so alot of people got affected.

US is also fairly more transparent about the whole thing than most countries too. Lot of these cases are simply due to the increased testing, rather than driven by increased vector spread only.
 
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US system of government, hyper capitalist economic system, private healthcare system, private media has been a failure.
 
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US is also fairly more transparent about the whole thing than most countries too. Lot of these cases are simply due to the increased testing, rather than driven by increased vector spread only.


Its NYC/New Jersey right now. Its why we're seeing such a huge increase in cases. They have ten times the amount of cases than the next state.
 
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According to many Chinese here on PDF we already had at least 1000 in August of 2019 but "didn't notice" the overflowing hospitals full of Intensive Care Patients.

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I PITY YOU.
Tsunami of VIRUS coming and you have time to ridicule others.
This is a very serious tragedy coming to you and your kin, so I am NOT going to laugh at you.
Stay safe.
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US is also fairly more transparent about the whole thing than most countries too. Lot of these cases are simply due to the increased testing, rather than driven by increased vector spread only.
The US SURELY is TRANSPARENT.
Very Easy.
JUST CLASSIFY COVID-19 DEATHS AS VAPING DEATHS.

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-...0-intl-hnk/h_1319f66f92245a2fe4ec63fe91ab66c9

CDC director says some coronavirus-related deaths have been found posthumously.
During the House Oversight Committee discussion on the novel coronavirus response, the director of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said some deaths from coronavirus have been discovered posthumously.
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I PITY YOU.
Tsunami of VIRUS coming and you have time to ridicule others.
This is a very serious tragedy coming to you and your kin, so I am NOT going to laugh at you.
Stay safe.
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i pity you the "F" back because maybe you wouldn't feel the same if members here were saying Coronavirus has been running rampant in Singapore since August of 2019 but you guys simply haven't noticed the thousands of deaths and huge influx of ICU patients. How stupid of an assertion does that sound???
 
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i pity you the "F" back because maybe you wouldn't feel the same if members here were saying Coronavirus has been running rampant in Singapore since August of 2019 but you guys simply haven't noticed the thousands of deaths and huge influx of ICU patients. How stupid of an assertion does that sound???
So you should ask that FAT FACE and your ORANGE HEAD to not play blame games and wait for the scientific investigations to determine the origins of this virus.

Investigations to help fight this virus and not for blaming rights.
Singapore got down to saving lives immediately and not looking for who to blame.
I wonder if you are not curious about so many 2019 VAPING DEATHS only in the US and nowhere else.
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https://apnews.com/65163e344a4725c823c34be60a2da1ce

RIP....

Trump says he intends to reopen country in weeks, not months

WASHINGTON (AP) — As cases of coronavirus continue to rise, President Donald Trump said Monday that he wants to reopen the country for business in weeks, not months, as he claimed, without evidence, that continued closures could result in more deaths than the pandemic itself.

“We can’t have the cure be worse than the problem,” Trump told reporters at a briefing, echoing a midnight Sunday tweet. “We have to open our country because that causes problems that, in my opinion, could be far bigger problems.”

Health experts have made clear that unless Americans continue to dramatically limit social interaction — staying home from work and isolating themselves — the number of infections will overwhelm the health care system, as it has in parts of Italy, leading to many more deaths. While the worst outbreaks are concentrated in certain parts of the country, such as New York, experts warn that the highly infectious disease is certain to spread.


But with the economic impact now snapping into focus and millions out of work, businesses shuttered and the markets in free fall — all undermining Trump’s reelection message — the chorus of backlash is growing louder, with Trump appearing to side with them.

“Life is fragile and economies are fragile,” Trump said, insisting he could protect both.

While he acknowledged there were trade-offs — “there’s no question about that” — he claimed that, if closures stretch on for months, there would be “probably more death from that than anything that we’re talking about with respect to the virus.”

The comments were further evidence that Trump has grown impatient with the pandemic, even before it has reached its expected peak. In recent days, tensions have been rising between those who argue the country needs to get back up and running to prevent a deep economic depression, and medical experts who warn that, unless more extreme action is taken, the human cost will be catastrophic.

“We can’t shut in the economy. The economic cost to individuals is just too great,” Larry Kudlow, Trump’s top economic adviser, said in an interview Monday on Fox News Channel. “The president is right. The cure can’t be worse than the disease, and we’re going to have to make some difficult trade-offs.”

It’s an opinion that has been echoed by others in the White House, some Republicans in Congress and on Fox, where host Steve Hilton delivered a monologue Sunday night that appeared to have, at least partially, inspired Trump’s tweet.

“You know that famous phrase, the cure is worse than the disease? That is exactly the territory we’re hurtling towards,” Hilton told his viewers, describing the economic, social and human impact of the shutdown as an “even bigger crisis” than the virus.

“You think it’s just the coronavirus that kills people? This total economic shutdown will kill people,” he said, pointing to growing poverty and despair.

Trump, who for the last two weeks has largely allowed doctors to lead the administration’s response, already seemed to be shifting in that direction.

“I’m not looking at months, I can tell you right now,” Trump said Monday, when asked about easing federal recommendations urging Americans to limit social contact and stay home. He said states with large case loads could continue to enforce stricter measures, while other parts of the country return to work.

Trump tweeted that he would be waiting until the end of the current 15-day period of recommended closures and self-isolation to make any decisions, which would be March 30. At the same time Trump sent that message, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were exploring new guidance making it possible for people working in “critical infrastructure” jobs who have been exposed to the virus to return to work faster “by wearing a mask for a certain period of time,” Vice President Mike Pence said.

It’s a change in tone that is drawing criticism from public health experts, who suggested Trump risks making a dangerous mistake if he sets up a conflict between public health and the nation’s economic well-being, given how unlikely it is that the threat posed by the virus will subside in another week.

If the U.S. stops social distancing too soon, “you will have more deaths and more dives in the stock market,” warned Lawrence Gostin of Georgetown University, a lawyer with extensive public health expertise.

And the outbreak could come surging back once people return to their normal routines of commuting, working, dining out and socializing — further stressing the economy.

John Auerbach, president of the nonpartisan Trust for America’s Health, which works with governments at all levels to improve preparedness for public health emergencies, said widespread illness and death also have a powerful economic impact that’s impossible to ignore or play down.

“If you don’t flatten the curve and minimize those who are getting infected, the amount of sickness will cripple business,” said Auerbach.

Even Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, a close Trump ally, urged Trump to stick with the advice of public health officials.

“There is no functioning economy unless we control the virus,” he warned on Twitter. “Try running an economy with major hospitals overflowing, doctors and nurses forced to stop treating some because they can’t help all, and every moment of gut-wrenching medical chaos being played out in our living rooms, on TV, on social media, and shown all around the world.”

But Stephen Moore, a former Trump economic adviser, said it’s time now “to start thinking about what kind of dramatic costs to society are we absorbing from the shutdown,” including tens of millions unemployed and potential spikes in drug overdoses and suicides.

He said he has been urging his former colleagues to selectively open the economy in ways that minimize the public health risk with more testing and, for instance, taking people’s temperature in public places, as they are now doing in other countries.

“There’s no good solutions here. There’s just bad solutions,” Moore conceded. “And to me, the worst solution is to just grind our economy to a halt.”

Other economists warned that if Americans return to work too soon, there could be recurring outbreaks that would only worsen a recession. But if the period of isolation continues for too long, there will be a steep cost in trying to restart and sustain economic growth.

Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at the consultancy RSM, said lifting restrictions after 15 days would be “potentially a profound policy mistake” because it could lead to a second or third wave of outbreaks that would do even more harm to economic growth.

“We got one shot to get this all right,” Brusuelas said, noting that Trump has a great deal at stake personally, given the upcoming election in November. “The last thing one would want to do from an economic policy perspective is to elevate one’s electoral interests above that of the economy or, most importantly, public health.”

Analysts at Morgan Stanley estimated Monday that the economy will shrink at a record-breaking annualized pace of 30% in the second quarter. The unemployment rate would surge to 12.8% — the highest level ever in data that go back to the 1940s. But this forecast assumes the outbreak peaks in late April, after which there would be fewer reasons to restrict economic activity, and a sharp rebound would begin in the June-August quarter, leading to solid growth in 2021.

Austan Goolsbee, an economist at the University of Chicago and a former adviser to President Barack Obama, says there is no real tension between containing the outbreak and preserving the U.S. economy. He has repeatedly emphasized that halting the outbreak is needed so that growth can resume as companies feel comfortable hiring and consumers ramp up spending.

“Anything that slows the spread of the virus is by far the best thing to restore the economy,” Goolsbee wrote on Twitter.

For most people, the coronavirus causes only mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness, including pneumonia. Worldwide, more than 375,000 cases have been reported, and while most people recover in weeks, more than 16,000 have died from the virus.

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Boak reported from Baltimore.
 
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