Contract for 76 Su-57 fighters signed at Army 2019

[vostok]

Russian Air Force will get 76 Su-57 untill year 2028.
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/6601712

 

[war&peace]

More details are desired. 76 by 2028 seems too slow. When will the first aircraft be delivered?

 

[JohnWick]

10 aircraft per year is good....

 

[aamirzs]

https://thediplomat.com/2019/06/senior-russian-official-confirms-order-for-76-su-57-fighter-jets/

 

[vostok]

More details are desired. 76 by 2028 seems too slow. When will the first aircraft be delivered?

The real question is - what engine will those jets have. If gen 2 engine - then first jet will be ready in 2022-2023. If gen 1 - then there will be too many sub-Su-57 jets.

 

[nahtanbob]

The real question is - what engine will those jets have. If gen 2 engine - then first jet will be ready in 2022-2023. If gen 1 - then there will be too many sub-Su-57 jets.

Are the Gen 2 engine AL-41s ??

 

[war&peace]

The real question is - what engine will those jets have. If gen 2 engine - then first jet will be ready in 2022-2023. If gen 1 - then there will be too many sub-Su-57 jets.

IDK what you mean by gen-1 or gen-2 engines. But what I learnt is that the production models will use Saturn Izdeliye 30 engine with 3D thrust vectoring and more thrust to weight ratio. It will also Su57 to supercruise as well. Right now, all prototypes are using a modified version of AL-41 which is installed in Su35s. So the engine has been decided but it won't be ready until 2020 i.e. next year. Without SI-30 engines, Su57 won't be a proper 5th airplane..it would be 4.75 gen...so there's no chance that Russian airforce will accept the older engine.

Are the Gen 2 engine AL-41s ??

No, it is a brand new engine...read my post.

 

[vostok]

Are the Gen 2 engine AL-41s ??

It is gen 1. Gen 2 still has no name, only project name "Изделие 30".

IDK what you mean by gen-1 or gen-2 engines. But what I learnt is that the production models will use Saturn Izdeliye 30 engine with 3D thrust vectoring and more thrust to weight ratio. It will also Su57 to supercruise as well. Right now, all prototypes are using a modified version of AL-41 which is installed in Su35s. So the engine has been decided but it won't be ready until 2020 i.e. next year. Without SI-30 engines, Su57 won't be a proper 5th airplane..it would be 4.75 gen...so there's no chance that Russian airforce will accept the older engine.

Even gen 1 (AL-41F1) versions on Su-57 are better then those on Su-35. Su-57 and Su-35 both can supercruise and both have 3d vectoring. Gen 1 engines can supercruise on 1.1 Mach. Gen 2 will give Su-57 1.5 Mach.

 

[war&peace]

It is gen 1. Gen 2 still has no name, only project name "Изделие 30".


Even gen 1 (AL-41F1) versions on Su-57 are better then those on Su-35. Su-57 and Su-35 both can supercruise and both have 3d vectoring. Gen 1 engines can supercruise on 1.1 Mach. Gen 2 will give Su-57 1.5 Mach.

Oh that's really good. But it also matters for how much distance it can super cruise? Like F35 can only go 150 km at 1.2 Mach while EFT2000 can super cruise at Mach 1.5 thanks to two EJ200 engines.

 

[vostok]

Oh that's really good. But it also matters for how much distance it can super cruise? Like F35 can only go 150 km at 1.2 Mach while EFT2000 can super cruise at Mach 1.5 thanks to two EJ200 engines.

Can't find this info. Probably still secret.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

More details are desired. 76 by 2028 seems too slow. When will the first aircraft be delivered?

The first 2 serial planes are delivered this year.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

That's great. And indirectly great news for India. If this aircraft has resolved its teething issues which IAF had raised, then IAF can order this ac.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

That's great. And indirectly great news for India. If this aircraft has resolved its teething issues which IAF had raised, then IAF can order this ac.

Su-57 don't have any problem. India is pro America. India buy F-16 at a cost of 200 million USD a plane.

 

[war&peace]

The first 2 serial planes are delivered this year.

those are prototypes with older engine

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

those are prototypes with older engine

Correct. New engine comes in 2023. F-15E didn't get new engines until 1990s. Initial batches had F-15C engines.