Confession document of MQM Leader Tariq Mir released;Confirmed Taking Funds From India

[haviZsultan]

This whole 'Mohajir' ethnicity is bullshyt, nothing else. It was taught to them by none other than Altaf Hussain that somehow they were being ridiculed and out caste. It was part of their politics. Just like the Pathans of KPK, the Balochs of the Balochistan, the Punjabis and Sindhis...everyone tries to tap into their own ethnic vote bank.

I mean the word 'Mohajir' means someone who migrates....a migrant. Can some mohajir please tell me that when both my paternal and maternal grandparents left India and everything they had, and moved to Pakistan, why weren't they called mohajir? While these Urdu speakers had the liberty to caste themselves into a separate group.

What a joke. Not once have i seen my parents or grandparents complain of anything.

I think once we abandon our terrorist organizations like the MQM we should look at our identity more critically. This comes in stages. If we are in the first stage where we are simply incapable of realizing the fact that a muhajir can and sometimes may do something bad we will obviously have problems with the subsequent phases.

My view is that the Pashtuns are muhajirs in Karachi. The Baloch are Muhajirs in Sindh and Punjabis in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. All of us definately moved from somewhere. Yet we have adopted the identity called muhajir? Why do we even need this identity and what is our real culture. For example my real culture is Lucknowi, not muhajir. I wear a Lucknowi starch kurta, I eat the Kakori kabab (fathers side) and have little or possibly nothing in common with a another muhajir who is from Hyderabad Delhi or Madras... then how are we all muhajirs but a man from Punjab becomes my enemy.

I am personally sick of the identity MQM has established for us and how it has divided us from the rest of the country, especially on ethnic lines. We must bridge the gap between our ethnicities or I fear we will become another Rwanda.

 

[slapshot]

This whole 'Mohajir' ethnicity is bullshyt, nothing else. It was taught to them by none other than Altaf Hussain that somehow they were being ridiculed and out caste. It was part of their politics. Just like the Pathans of KPK, the Balochs of the Balochistan, the Punjabis and Sindhis...everyone tries to tap into their own ethnic vote bank.

I mean the word 'Mohajir' means someone who migrates....a migrant. Can some mohajir please tell me that when both my paternal and maternal grandparents left India and everything they had, and moved to Pakistan, why weren't they called mohajir? While these Urdu speakers had the liberty to caste themselves into a separate group.

What a joke. Not once have i seen my parents or grandparents complain of anything.

I see lot of people living in Punjab who migrated from India but they do not buy this mohajir/Urdu speaking bullshit. MQM is not even able to inspire them and they choose other national parties over MQM. Somehow its only Karachi/Haiderabad where this drama actually works.

 

[I M Sikander]

I thing you need urgent medical help. Or if you're a kid, you need to go to school because you talk like a nut gone berserk with your childish stupidity. Grow up.

Typical immature indian farting in pak forums.
Get mature baita jani. Atleast give it a try.

 

[Gazi]

Why do we keep denying, even when reality hits us like a slab of stone falling on an unwary ant... I think we should accept that MQM is 90% a militant organization with sympathy and support for India. This is a monumental fact which we should come to acknowledge. The world is saying it.

MQM is not just supported by their supporters for Altaf's Hussain's so called Charisma they are supported for lots of other reasons as well. An example is that 5 days ago an area nearby had Power cut for 2 days when Karachi was being devastated by Heatwave it was MQM Sector people who brought K Electric Staff to fix that problem so this whole Muhajir Empowerment and Altaf Hussain Charisma is only relevant to fewer Supporters of MQM not to masses. Its their Structure and its Capability to deliver is what keeps people attached to it and that is why I say until their is a Viable alternative MQM is going nowhere.

I see lot of people living in Punjab who migrated from India but they do not buy this mohajir/Urdu speaking bullshit. MQM is not even able to inspire them and they choose other national parties over MQM. Somehow its only Karachi/Haiderabad where this drama actually works.

People living in Punjab who Migrated didnt had Language Barriers as most of them were from East Punjab and they were also not being subjected to Discriminated in the form of Quota system so your whole Example is Irrelevant considering Karachi based Migrant Community which mostly had different Background and different Culture then what we find in Pakistan.

 

[syedali73]

@syedali73

I grew up in a family of doctors----. While growing up---I saw them treat every patient with the same respect and dignity as any other----.

When my father went for NIGHT CALLS multiple times at night---not knowing that he would be paid his visit fee or not----he never asked the ethnicity of the patient and he never held back the strings of his valet if he found out that the patient did not have the money to buy medicine---and he ever refused service to anyone because of their language----.

So---I had no clue what racism or discrimination was---I did not grow up in a discriminative household----so---I don't have any reason to hate anyone---. I may differ in my opinion of others---but it is not based on discrimination---but rather personal issues.

Leave it Mastan saheb. Your last message was nasty. I could have replied but it is Ramadhan and I am fasting. Some other time.

 

[Super Falcon]

Time to bring altaf neck till law

 

[Gazi]

Leave it Mastan saheb. Your last message was nasty. I could have replied but it is Ramadhan and I am fasting. Some other time.

He has this misconception that Muhajirs of Karachi Doesnt wants to learn any local Language which is due to not being aware of Karachi Schools are required to teach Sindhi till 9th Grade where it is considered as Compulsory Subject. I got this cleared to him so I hope he would have understood the reason.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Rona dhona harnay walon ka hota hai ... Or hamesha PTI walon k har party se phadday hotay hain ... Na sirf 2sri partion se balkeh aapas mai bhi lar partay hai

aur ye baat us party ka supporter keh raha hay jo party bahi ki speech mayn late anay par apany hi leaders k hands up karwa daytay hayn aur "jota parade" kartay hayn aur bahi agar kisi worker say naraz hon yan defect honay ka khadsha ho tu uper pohanchanay ka order kar daytay hayn .suna hay issi baat par aaj kal uk mayn under investigation hayn altaf bahi

 

[slapshot]

People living in Punjab who Migrated didnt had Language Barriers as most of them were from East Punjab and they were also not being subjected to Discriminated in the form of Quota system so your whole Example is Irrelevant considering Karachi based Migrant Community which mostly had different Background and different Culture then what we find in Pakistan.

You must be kidding! To this day their older generation can't speak local languages. The generations which born after migration they can but even then you can tell the difference. But it doesn't matter and they are well integrated into social and political system. I don't know the dynamics of Karachi/Haiderabad and sure there must be discrimination against migrants which lead to the creation of MQM. But i don't think so if things are same in 2015 so maybe MQM needs to change too since world around it has changed.

 

[Gazi]

aur ye baat us party ka supporter keh raha hay jo party bahi ki speech mayn late anay par apany hi leaders k hands up karwa daytay hayn aur "jota parade" kartay hayn aur bahi agar kisi worker say naraz hon yan defect honay ka khadsha ho tu uper pohanchanay ka order kar daytay hayn .suna hay issi baat par aaj kal uk mayn under investigation hayn altaf bahi

Bhai isko Kehtay hain DISCIPLINE jo PTI kabhi zindagi mai nahi samjhay gi kyun k PTI mai chand Shaksiyaat Party say bhi Ziada Strong k woh Intra Party Election mai bhi Dhandli kardain tab bhi Senior Post unko hi milti hai lakin MQM mai aisa nahi hai Altaf Hussain ko chorh k baqi saray loog MQM ki wajah say hain MQM unki wajah say nahi hai.

 

[Wistful Reminisces]

This whole 'Mohajir' ethnicity is bullshyt, nothing else. It was taught to them by none other than Altaf Hussain that somehow they were being ridiculed and out caste. It was part of their politics. Just like the Pathans of KPK, the Balochs of the Balochistan, the Punjabis and Sindhis...everyone tries to tap into their own ethnic vote bank.

I mean the word 'Mohajir' means someone who migrates....a migrant. Can some mohajir please tell me that when both my paternal and maternal grandparents left India and everything they had, and moved to Pakistan, why weren't they called mohajir? While these Urdu speakers had the liberty to caste themselves into a separate group.

What a joke. Not once have i seen my parents or grandparents complain of anything.

And this is coming from a born and bred Karachiite, with ancestors from Pakistani Punjab and their ancestors from Jhalandhar and Hoshiarpur.

What about the massacre in the 60? And the 70's by Bhutto? The 80's too?

MQM wasn't even around. Until the rest of Pakistan acknowledges that atrocities did take place, that we are not Sindhi either, the sooner MQM loses power

 

[Gazi]

You must be kidding! To this day their older generation can't speak local languages. The generations which born after migration they can but even then you can tell the difference. But it doesn't matter and they are well integrated into social and political system. I don't know the dynamics of Karachi/Haiderabad and sure there must be discrimination against migrants which lead to the creation of MQM. But i don't think so if things are same in 2015 so maybe MQM needs to change too since world around it has changed.

FYI In Karachi Sindhi is Compulsory Subject till 9th Grade and is studied in Every School Except O or A Levels. If they couldnt learn any local Language its because they dont need to because Urdu is fulfilling the Purpose quite Efficiently as mean of communication for them to all other community that exist in Karachi. As for integration then they are quite well integrated in Karachi its other communities that doesnt Integrate themselves and end up in Ghettos Stealing Electricity so first check the ground Realities rather then Jumping to conclusions on the basis of Propaganda that Politicians Feed you people with.

 

[pkuser2k12]

Bhai isko Kehtay hain DISCIPLINE jo PTI kabhi zindagi mai nahi samjhay gi kyun k PTI mai chand Shaksiyaat Party say bhi Ziada Strong k woh Intra Party Election mai bhi Dhandli kardain tab bhi Senior Post unko hi milti hai lakin MQM mai aisa nahi hai Altaf Hussain ko chorh k baqi saray loog MQM ki wajah say hain MQM unki wajah say nahi hai.

bas aik altaf pharaoh hay bakki sab thek hay.isi ko kehtay hayn Fascism killing own party defectors and punishing them and beating them up.now army will teach mqm DISCIPLINE kindly dont complain .wesay agar complain kar b lo tu kia bigray ga army ka ??? kuch b nae

 

[Strigon]

Would need shipyard rope to hang this fcker, but what a beautiful sight it would be to see altaf die in agony.

 

[Gazi]

bas aik altaf pharaoh hay bakki sab thek hay.isi ko kehtay hayn Fascism killing own party defectors and punishing them and beating them up.now army will teach mqm DISCIPLINE kindly dont complain .wesay agar complain kar b lo tu kia bigray ga army ka ??? kuch b nae

Altaf ki Value Quaid-e-Tehrik ki hai usi nay is pori Party ka Initiative liya tha tu MQM mai uski jagah bhi waisi hi hai lakin Altaf hi woh pehli aur Akhri wajah hai MQM k supporters k pass aur na hi Muhajir Card uski wajah hai MQM k supporters k pass Support Karnay ki. MQM apni Ideology k mutabiq abtak Pori utri hai aur inkay pass ziada tar leader ajj bhi Middle Class ka hain jabkay baqi sari Partiyan ab bhi Electables pay Zinda hain aur apki Manpasand PTI tu aik hath agay Electables ki Maharbaniyun pay chal rahi hai jaisay Jahangir Tareen ka Helicopter.