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The hunt for new medium transport aircraft (MTA) to boost multi-mission capabilities of the Indian Air Force will be a three-cornered contest, with US, South American and European plane makers throwing their hat in the ring to equip the air force with 40-80 aircraft, in line with the central government’s Make in India initiative, officials aware of the development said on Monday.

US aerospace firm Lockheed Martin’s C-130J, Brazilian Embraer Defense and Security’s C-390 Millennium and Airbus Defence and Space’s A-400M aircraft of Europe will vie for the Indian order that is expected to involve technology transfer and setting up a manufacturing line in the country for high-level indigenisation, the officials said on conditions of anonymity.

The IAF is looking for a new transport aircraft in the 18 to 30-tonne cargo carrying capacity range.

Embraer Defense and Security president Bosco Da Costa Junior on Monday said the firm was laying the groundwork to compete for the IAF order and was in talks with local firms for a possible partnership to bid for the project. The air force has sought information from original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) earlier this year about the aircraft they can offer. The C-390 was on display at the Aero India 2023 in Bengaluru in February.

“The competition has very good planes, but the C-390 has its own advantages, including the latest technology, multi-mission capability, operational flexibility and low operating costs. It will bring more value to the IAF. Our competitors are well established in India, but we are also looking at expanding our relationship,” Costa said, responding to a question on the platforms Lockheed Martin and Airbus are offering and their standing in India.

The IAF currently operates 12 C-130J aircraft, while Airbus is jointly executing a ₹21,935-crore project with Tata Advanced Systems Limited to equip the air force with 56 C-295 aircraft to modernise its transport fleet.

In the defence sector, Embraer has so far supplied eight jets to India for VVIP travel, and for use as airborne early warning and control aircraft.

The information IAF has sought from OEMs includes scope of technology transfer; methods to enhance indigenisation and to set up a dedicated manufacturing line, including design, integration and manufacturing processes in India; capability to undertake indigenous manufacture of systems, subsystems, components and spares; and making India a regional or global hub for manufacturing and maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) of the equipment.

The IAF needs transport aircraft in the 18 to 30-tonne class to carry out various roles, and it should select a plane that best meets its requirements and can be indigenised the most, said Air Marshal Anil Chopra (retd), director general of Centre for Air Power Studies.

Embraer is prepared to support and join the Make in India initiative, Costa said.

“We have had several meetings with Indian firms and are currently assessing what kind of facilities they have here. We are looking at the best match to implement our joint localisation plan under the Make in India model,” he said.

From manufacturing parts in the country to MRO and technology transfer to final assembly, Embraer will propose the best localisation plan ever offered to India by any original equipment manufacturer, he said. India could become the hub to fulfill the MTA demand in the region, Costa added.

In the request for information for the MTA, the IAF has asked the foreign vendors to provide a general estimate of the cost of aircraft and associated equipment for a batch of 40, 60 and 80 aircraft. The C-390 can carry a payload of 26 tonne compared to the C-130J’s 20 tonne and A-400M’s 37 tonne.

The IAF’s transport fleet, which includes C-17s and Il-76s, has played a key role in strengthening the country’s military posture to deter Chinese forces in the Ladakh sector where the two sides have been locked in a fierce military standoff for more than three years.

The IAF has airlifted more than 68,000 troops, 330 infantry combat vehicles, 90 tanks, several artillery guns and other equipment, including surface-to-air guided weapons and radars, to forward areas in eastern Ladakh during the last three years.
 
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There should be no waver in determination by India that the winner sets up a manufacturing line in India.
Too many times the suppliers have gotten away with no permeant benefit to India's economy.
We have to insist, manufacture here and let us export to the international market.
 
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In the end they will select Ilyushin-276 because of local production and HAL.
 
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There should be no waver in determination by India that the winner sets up a manufacturing line in India.
Too many times the suppliers have gotten away with no permeant benefit to India's economy.
We have to insist, manufacture here and let us export to the international market.
No one will give up their IP like this if their product is any good.

In the end they will select Ilyushin-276 because of local production and HAL.
There is already too much exposure to unreliable Russian equipment. We dont want more flying coffins like Mig-21s. Our pilots deserve the best.
 
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No one will give up their IP like this if their product is any good.
Lockhead Martin offered India all IP rights and sales for F16 block70 + all Indian mods.
There are not many customers like India that can place SUBSTANTIAL orders for new aircraft.
Embraer has made such an offer to India, to manufacture in India and the ability for foreign sales
 
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Lockhead Martin offered India all IP rights and sales for F16 block70 + all Indian mods.
There are not many customers like India that can place SUBSTANTIAL orders for new aircraft.
Embraer has made such an offer to India, to manufacture in India and the ability for foreign sales

Since the F16 was reaching the end of life and the USAF had stopped ordering new F16s, LM had offered to move the production line to India, which was required under Make In India anyway. The distinguishing feature was that they were going to shut down the line in the US, but that was because the US had stopped ordering these planes anyway. There have been so SUBSTANTIAL ordes for F16s in recent years, since many more modern options are available. Not many would want to spend money on a plane that the USAF considers too obsolete to order new ones of.

Lockheed Martin did put on a marketing gimmick and while it is true that they had offered to move all production to India ( since it would have been the major/only customer going forward), no IP transfer was ever on the table. India would have gained some jobs but the core technology and all patents would have stayed with LM. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If the deal had been such a good one, why didnt the F21 make even the final shortlist ?
 
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In the end they will select Ilyushin-276 because of local production and HAL.
it is vaporware

Lockhead Martin offered India all IP rights and sales for F16 block70 + all Indian mods.
There are not many customers like India that can place SUBSTANTIAL orders for new aircraft.
Embraer has made such an offer to India, to manufacture in India and the ability for foreign sales
The F-16 deal was a little too late
 
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I think India will pick A400 from Airbus. Airbus will likely offer better ofset than C130 J who doesnt have problem in selling their planes.

Airbus-Tata cooperation will also smooth the possible A400 order for India.
 
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This is a great example of another Pakistani mess-up. Embraer should have been approached a while back for the C-390. Eventually, C-130s will need to be replaced, C-390 is literally the 'next' C130, what will the forces do when the airframes are done? More Chinese crap?
 
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