Column: Why not ban the RSS?

[INDIAPOSITIVE]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

 

[Ryuzaki]

why ban a noble apolitical organisation that runs thousands of schools in India,we should ban religion first.

 

[raja hindustani]

While the statements made by a few RSS leaders may cause offense to some, the truth is that RSS has done a lot of good work for the country. Any national tragedy/accident and you always see karsewaks at the front helping out. Just because we do not agree with some of their statements does not mean that the organization should be banned.

 

[NKVD]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

Indra Gandhi Tried It was a Epic Fail.

 

[The_Showstopper]

What are we waiting for....?

 

[Echo_419]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

This dude should be banned from writing

 

[Raul_AD]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

Siculars are really pissed off!!!! Asking Hindu Nationalist Party to Ban RSS!!!!

Height of Stupidity.....comparing a Ban on a Documentary on a Psychopath Rapist killer with Ban on Nationalist Organisation like RSS.

It means they have run out of issues agst current Govt.

 

[vsdave2302]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

Kis ke baap ki takat hai jo RSS ko ban kare. RSS is reshaping India . Radicals wants to draw a parity with RSS and other Jhihadi elements. RSS is the only organization which has worked as an antidote against Jhihadi design to make India an Islamic state. They shall not be allowed to be successed.

 

[SrNair]

While the statements made by a few RSS leaders may cause offense to some, the truth is that RSS has done a lot of good work for the country. Any national tragedy/accident and you always see karsewaks at the front helping out. Just because we do not agree with some of their statements does not mean that the organization should be banned.

Most of these peoples dont know the sacrifices of the RSS for these nation during wars that happened just after our independence.RSS is the world largest cultural organisation spanning from Kanyakumari to J&K.
Most of these libtards and AC room protestors dont know the balidhan of RSS for this soil.

 

[gau8av]

The Modi government has lived up to its promise of being the best formation to set the economy right. Even RBI has applauded the economic thrust of Budget FY16 by cutting the repo rate by 25 basis points. But on several social issues, the government has faltered, and according to several experts, this was one of the major reasons why the BJP got thrashed in the Delhi elections.
However, on one important social issue—women’s empowerment—Modi’s record has been outstanding. His appointment of several women in the Union Cabinet has been noteworthy, though one can, and one should, complain about the incompetence of some of these ministers —just as one should complain about the incompetence of some of the male ministers. Most remarkable, however, was Modi’s frank assessment of India’s record in killing unborn girls. In his Independence Day speech, Modi announced to India, and the whole world, our shameful record of female foeticide, and our shocking discrimination against women. His goal was to revolutionise and change the feudal mind-set of the Indian public, and especially that of the Indian male.
Given this background, it has been nothing short of pathetic to watch the BJP spokespersons writhe and contort under the yoke of defending the indefensible. The BBC made a documentary, India’s Daughter, on the December 16 (2012) rape—one that shocked the world with its brutality. The BBC received permission from all the authorities involved to film interviews with one of those who was convicted of the rape. The documentary is about the sick mentality prevalent among males in all societies. From one’s understanding (along with the BJP’s ban brigade, I haven’t yet seen the documentary), the documentary is an honest look at the mind and mind-set of one of the convicted rapists—Mukesh Singh.
How can anyone, least of all a responsible government, object to the screening of the documentary?
Once home minister Rajnath Singh made the decision to ban its screening in India, the BJP posted its women (Shaina NC and Meenakshi Lekhi) to defend the ban. Curious, just asking: Did the BJP think that their male representatives were incompetent to advocate and defend the ban on the documentary? However, it is highly unlikely that the males could have done worse. Here are the arguments presented by the BJP women defending the ban:
Shaina NC: “We should respect the wishes of the parents of the rape victim”. If she had got her facts right, she would have known that both parents of the victim were strenuously arguing for the documentary to be shown. Indeed, an “illegal” peek at the documentary shown last night by the BBC makes it clear that the very first acknowledgement is to the parents of the victim.
Meenakshi Lekhi: She, thankfully, avoided the erroneous assumption that the “parents will be upset”, but fell into several other traps, many of her own making. For example, she argued that all the BJP was doing was conveying the “sense” of Parliament. Even though Parliament might have shouted out its approval of the ban, Lekhi should have reminded herself, and the viewers, that Parliament is not above making mistakes—unless the BJP now thinks that the Emergency was right, because it was approved by Parliament.
But Lekhi dug herself deeper into the mess of illogic and factual errors—mistakes first made by Rajnath Singh. She claimed that the filmmakers had violated the law by filming without permission—they had these. She claimed that they had not shown the uncut film to the Tihar jail authorities—they had done this, too. And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?
The simple conclusion is that the BJP jumped into the ban advocacy, without looking at both the facts, or more importantly, the merits of the case. There are three major things wrong with this ban. First, if you are concerned about male violence against women, as you should be, you should make sure the film is shown, regardless of legal technicalities. [If the government still wants to ban the film, it should re-read Modi’s Independence Day speech.] Second, it is legally wrong to oppose the screening of the film after giving it legal approval, and after the documentary-makers fulfilled all legal commitments. Third, in this day and age, by arguing for a ban on a film which can easily be streamed and watched on YouTube, you are revealing to the world that you just don’t get it. Worse, you are stating, in a very public fashion, that you care more about false and fake national honour than the well-being and respect of women. How difficult is it to understand or appreciate that respect for women in all dimensions (cracking down on foeticide, rape, domestic violence, etc) will do much more to preserve and elevate national honour than crude attempts to ban the screening of unfortunate reality?
Unfortunately, and this is worrisome, the instinctive urge to ban (rather than think) is most prevalent in the newly-minted BJP government of Maharashtra. This state has a young chief minister, from whose youth we expected some modernity, if not progressiveness. The kind of regressive policies followed by Fadnavis’s government: banning of comedy shows and extending the existing ban on cow-slaughter to the slaughter of bulls as well. What is it with young chief ministers in India, regardless of political persuasion (e.g. Akhilesh Yadav, Fadnavis and Arvind Kejriwal), that they are so backward? Uff! Bring back the old, ring out the new.
Regarding the extension of the cow-slaughter ban to bulls (male cows), can someone please explain to me why cow-slaughter is banned, but not the slaughter of buffaloes? Both give milk, and in that sense, both are “holy” or “mother-like”. Is there an implicit “racist” bias here. given that the buffaloes are mostly black and cows are mostly white? Or, is it the case that the cow is socialist and, therefore, fits in with the preamble of our modified Constitution, and the buffalo is part of a capitalist disorder?
There is a larger disease at work in India—it is the urge to ban anything that the “powerful” do not like. It is wrong to ban the screening of India’s Daughter, just as it is wrong to ban cow slaughter. And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.
Column: Why not ban the RSS? | The Financial Express

I'm not pro blind cult religious nationalism and therefore not a fan of the RSS and find myself at odds with some of their ideas but having researched them, right wing nut jobs ?.. yes, they are full of rwnjs but are still not the bogeymen "extremists" the leftists try to paint them as..

RSS are not terrorists, get this fact right in your brains and get over it already, you stupid Pakistanis... RSS are not taliban, al qaeda, jaish e mohammed, lashkar, haqqanis etc..

just see who have taken to arms in India, commies and islamists...

 

[ravi kiran]

RSS is nationalist organization.

they are patriots like any other Indian.

They think of only country before anything.

so this is foolish question to ask.....

 

[syedali73]

RSS are not terrorists, get this fact right in your brains and get over it already, you stupid Pakistanis... RSS are not taliban, al qaeda, jaish e mohammed, lashkar, haqqanis etc..

just see who have taken to arms in India, commies and islamists...

The column was written by an Indian called Surjit S Bhalla , it is published on an Indian website i.e. The Financial Express, why outraging at Pakistan?

Reported!

 

[Bang Galore]

Siculars are really pissed off!!!! Asking Hindu Nationalist Party to Ban RSS!!!!

Height of Stupidity.....comparing a Ban on a Documentary on a Psychopath Rapist killer with Ban on Nationalist Organisation like RSS.

It means they have run out of issues agst current Govt.

Kis ke baap ki takat hai jo RSS ko ban kare. RSS is reshaping India . Radicals wants to draw a parity with RSS and other Jhihadi elements. RSS is the only organization which has worked as an antidote against Jhihadi design to make India an Islamic state. They shall not be allowed to be successed.

Most of these peoples dont know the sacrifices of the RSS for these nation during wars that happened just after our independence.RSS is the world largest cultural organisation spanning from Kanyakumari to J&K.
Most of these libtards and AC room protestors dont know the balidhan of RSS for this soil.

RSS is nationalist organization.

they are patriots like any other Indian.

They think of only country before anything.

so this is foolish question to ask.....

Proof that people simply don't bother reading before commenting.No one is asking for a ban , merely pointing out that the reasons stated by BJP spokesperson Menakshi lekhi was foolish..


"And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?"

 

[Raul_AD]

Proof that people simply don't bother reading before commenting.No one is asking for a ban , merely pointing out that the reasons stated by BJP spokesperson Menakshi lekhi was foolish..


"And, somewhat shockingly, she argued that the screening of the film would affect tourism and, therefore, should be banned. Some might legitimately argue that the RSS thinking affects tourism; so, should the RSS be banned as well?"

Again a Sicular Rant?????

What does the title means???? Did'nt it not comparing one ban with other, according to the article banning RSS will be wrong, same way Banning the BBC Documentary is also Wrong??????

What BBC Documentary Doing Good to the society both on Moral Standards, and Social Front. Do we not allowing ourselves being dictated by the Western Countries????

The first question is WHO ALLOWED THIS RAPIST, KILLER - PSYCHOPATH, BEEN FILMED???? THAT IS ALSO WITHOUT DOING ANY PSYCHIATRIST ANALYSIS??? WEATHER HE IS FIT TO GIVE ANY INTERVIEW????? WHAT HIS MENTAL HEALTH IS?????? DO AGAIN EXPOSING HIS BLABBERING TO THE SOCIETY, WHAT WILL BE THE EFFECT????????????

NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TOWARDS THE BASIC QUESTION INVOLVED IN THE FILMING OF THE DOCUMENTARY????

Why dont we end the Subsidy for Haj, Minority Scholarships, Common Civil Code because these policies are creating Divisions in the Society???????????

Why do we not bring WAKF Board, Churches under Govt. Control as Govt. Controls Hindu Temples?????????

Why cannot we have common civil code????????

Why this Double Standards discriminating with Majority Dude??????

All the above sucks and are creates divisions in the society. BUT ACCORDING YOU TOUCHING ANY OF THE SUBJECTS WILL BE "DEATH OF SICKLURISM".

P.s.: PLEASE BAN RSS!!!! NEHRU AS WELL AS INDIRA GANDHI HAD DONE THAT. IT WILL HELP RSS GROWING IN LEAP AND BOUNCES.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Siculars are really pissed off!!!! Asking Hindu Nationalist Party to Ban RSS!!!!

Kis ke baap ki takat hai jo RSS ko ban kare. RSS is reshaping India . Radicals wants to draw a parity with RSS and other Jhihadi elements. RSS is the only organization which has worked as an antidote against Jhihadi design to make India an Islamic state. They shall not be allowed to be successed.

Guys read the article in its entirity!

And just as equally wrong to ban extremist political organisations like the RSS, unless they violate the law.

Anyway, the RSS need to stop saying absurdly stupid things and the media will leave them alone, the nonsense some of their leaders come out with invites backlash.