Colonel Sanders point of view....

[PakSword]

Ummm still no nuking

Of course not.. but the party which will be losing will use nukes definitely.. and it will be all over..

 

[loanranger]

Of course not.. but the party which will be losing will use nukes definitely.. and it will be all over..

That true.

 

[El Sidd]

Of course not.. but the party which will be losing will use nukes definitely.. and it will be all over..

laxmi chaiye inko laxmi.

 

[Azadkashmir]

kernerrrl 56inch burger including sauce mig 21

 

[SQ8]

India beats Pakistan not militarily but with economy....

All majors allies of Pakistan on side with India because of economy.....

Arabs ditched us, US etc.....


Because of economy...

Indians are now talking about AJK not IOK...



What options we have left....

Nothing but one....


Go war with India and make their economy stoop to our level so that they can't purchase new weapons as well as Nation like Falsi baterey Araba and U.S lost interest...

Have a war with Indian and it should be nuclear ....

Go strike first take all their airbases and naval bases along with lal Qila and GHQ.....

Nuke: Mumbai....

Because under current circumstances our economy is not growing but Indian economy still good despite ISI agents Modi's lots of efforts....

Hum tou dobay gey hien sanam tum ko bhi ley dhobyen gey,,,,

@Oscar

If we don't go for war next we will have to surrender AJK....mark my words....


Whole world is up to money and we don't have....we can't have in future also....India is a big country and always lucrative to rest of the world....

We should destroy Indian economy by attacking their military and economy hubs...

Regards,

Colonel Sanders.

Then wait and watch...

We may not have to surrender AJK for now, but we cannot do anything about Kashmir otherwise.

War won’t give us Kashmir and will likely lose swathes of AJK until the IB goes hot.

It will be pushed towards nuclear but at the end India due to both numbers, superior ground &naval equipment along with economy will win and continue back on its rise.

We will be finished to Afghanistan status because we lack both the economy,infrastructure and skilled manpower to bounce back and our will power hasn’t really shined when it comes to our current ethnic and religious divides.

I am not being pessimistic by design but based on the last years news despite the focus on change I am convinced that our countrymen aren’t all they claim to be and incapable of meaningful change.

 

[Numerous]

I agree.

I made a thread sometime back that our state is waiting for India to attack.. it will have to wait till the day of judgement.

We should take today's earthquake as a warning, that if we are afraid of destruction because of war fi sabeelillah, Allah can send destruction in other ways if we don't help our brothers and sisters in Kashmir.

In a war, there is still a chance of a win.. in earthquakes, cyclones, floods and droughts, it's always a loss...


As a Muslim, we should have a strong belief on life after death.. without that, there's no point of fighting a war to liberate fellow Muslims.. they are better off there.

I agree that we should take today's earthquake as a warning.

However bro if we can't even commit to the basics of Islam then how are we going to be man enough to fight a war?

There is just so much wrong in Pakistan that it gives me a headache just thinking about the route back from our current state. We are in a horrible cycle of corrupt leaders. Our army and police most probably run secret prisons (where the treatment is probably pretty bad) all over the country. We talk about the need of helping our brother and sisters in kashmir but we neglect our brothers and sisters suffering under China purely because they're our "ally". We somehow adopted bollywood culture from our enemy and spread it in our country. And like the list goes on and on, from major things on a national level to our own flaws as individuals. There is good stuff too but the evil is just getting out of hand.

I'm not sure if we have what it takes to win a war. Not from a religious spiritual standpoint or from looking at numbers, weapons, economy etc...

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

They briefly introduced some masala flavoured ones which I personally liked. Other than that it sucks they never sell original recipe in india.

Indian KFC sucks

@Dubious, derailment

 

[Psychic]

Because under current circumstances our economy is not growing but Indian economy still good despite ISI agents Modi's lots of efforts....

Modi is doing a good job and Bharat is going to suffer a lot in the future when his policies towards minorities will bear fruit -unless he decides to attack AJK before internal divisions in India materialize which I fear he would.

We had our chance on 27th which we missed. The problem is that we are reactive, not proactive---we should learn to pre-empt like Isreal. India will attack us again, it is only a matter of time; we could've initiated a war at our terms, now they are going to impose a war on us....and most likely, we won't be able to do anything other than giving knee jerk reaction.

 

[S.Y.A]

I would say if next time India even talk about surgical strike, no matter real or fake .. send in the Army as QRF , Invade as much land as possible , launch Babur and Ra'ad on key installations . Bomb IAF bases and hangers , send in SSG teams drop them deep inside J&K to disrupt the enemy movements , and communications .. and Pray that Kashmiri's finally stand up with PA . That is the only way i see this might bring some results or else just forget J&K forever , and enjoy the part you have .

Lol, what happened to you? just 2 days ago you were arguing that war is not an option and that we should only go for a diplomatic solution.

Modi is doing a good job and Bharat is going to suffer a lot in the future when his policies towards minorities will bear fruit -unless he decides to attack AJK before internal divisions in India materialize which I fear he would.

We had our chance on 27th which we missed. The problem is that we are reactive, not proactive---we should learn to pre-empt like Isreal. India will attack us again, it is only a matter of time; we could've initiated a war at our terms, now they are going to impose a war on us....and most likely, we won't be able to do anything other than giving knee jerk reaction.

They will attack us once they have 72 rafales, and are well integrated into their airforce. I really hope that the PAF wakes and buys some medium to long range air defence systems before its too late. a major shift in PAF's doctrine is needed.

 

[Maarkhoor]

We may not have to surrender AJK for now, but we cannot do anything about Kashmir otherwise.

War won’t give us Kashmir and will likely lose swathes of AJK until the IB goes hot.

It will be pushed towards nuclear but at the end India due to both numbers, superior ground &naval equipment along with economy will win and continue back on its rise.

We will be finished to Afghanistan status because we lack both the economy,infrastructure and skilled manpower to bounce back and our will power hasn’t really shined when it comes to our current ethnic and religious divides.

I am not being pessimistic by design but based on the last years news despite the focus on change I am convinced that our countrymen aren’t all they claim to be and incapable of meaningful change.

Yeah agreed but without war we are like that and after that we will be like that and if we let India go free they will induct more weapons and force us ..... so let them drowned with us.....

Take them by surprise and launch massive nuclear attack on their naval, air and ground basis....

Plus take down Mumbai....

And welcome the biggest beggar of this world India....

 

[Maarkhoor]

Modi is doing a good job and Bharat is going to suffer a lot in the future when his policies towards minorities will bear fruit -unless he decides to attack AJK before internal divisions in India materialize which I fear he would.

We had our chance on 27th which we missed. The problem is that we are reactive, not proactive---we should learn to pre-empt like Isreal. India will attack us again, it is only a matter of time; we could've initiated a war at our terms, now they are going to impose a war on us....and most likely, we won't be able to do anything other than giving knee jerk reaction.

Over 13000 boys and young men arrested and shifted from Kashmir to India different locations....They wanted to change demography of Kashmir and after that they will force to have plebiscite or war to get AJK....

We have option right now to stop it otherwise we will lost everything AJK, GB, Siachin etc....
And they will not stop there we will end up like Nepal, Bhutan etc....


Die with pride, Shair ki aik din ki zindagi geedar ki soo sala zindagi se behtar hai...

 

[Dubious]

@Maarkhoor Bhai!! Tum to abhi se haar maan liye ho ... abhi to bahut ladai baaki hai ... Hausla rakho!

Waw
You sound like the retards on the other side of the border
Seems like there are many traits common between indains and pakistanis

@Oscar
@fatman17

 

[Wrath]

laxmi chaiye inko laxmi.

Lakshmi ?

 

[Wrath]

first prosecute the PM for corruption and put him in C class jail.

Konsa wala ?

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

@Slav Defence @The Eagle what giveth my Paks?

Reading some comments here makes one wonder why Pakistan was created in the first place.

Afterall, GanguDaesh economy was larger then as it is now... alll industry was there... we had NOTHING.

Did Jinnah made a mistake?

Should we lay down our weapons and accept the reunion with GanguFacistRegime on its term?

Because as some have been promoting for some time that GangTerroristArmy is so powerful and has more men, machines and means... so why fight at all? Because they are superior on paper... and have planned Shock n Awe for us...and we are so doomed now.

That our PakArmedForces are just empty shells, incapable of fighting... just a corrupt lot... and we shall be crushed by Bippin's TerroristArmy...

Economy, economy, economy... as if this is the ONLY weapon left... well, for those who think like this.. question arises after ten years of economic growth would we be able to stand upto GanguTerroristArmy... since in the same ten years their economy would also grow?

So, such logic/reasoning is actually conditioning us to accept the GanguFacistRegime Hegemony in the name of speaking the truth/logic/rationalism...

I wish to understand what you two have to say?

Faith... faith is NOT Rational... Belief in the Unseen is an irrational thing... so if carefully looked at the emerging view of the some... perhaps the logical progression of this form of thinking is actually saying... FAITH is actually holding us back... because we need to grow...

Please, don't take me wrong.. I do understand economy... have written here on it. Perhaps, I might know more about economy/finance than many... not claiming anythig at all... @ps3linux

I find it disappointing that we find here on PDF a subtle conditioning towards acceptance of GanguFacist Hegemony... by some PakPosters... just expand on their thinking then you shall come to the same logical conclusion....

Yes, we are corrupt.

Yes, we have failed Paks...

Yes, from 1990 till today we have a destroyed state with total paralysis of our instituitions... and since a state is sum of instituitions... hence, we indeed have become a SoftState.

I accept all of the above.. but Idea of Pakistan needs to be fought.. it is worth fighting for.

Perhaps, PDF and its esteemed members think, a deeper meditation perhaps... as how their 'rationalism' / 'truth speech' is actually conditioning YoungPaks towards accepting GanguFacist Hegemony.

Wisdom is not just logic, reason or surface reality. Perception is the heart of wisdom.

Sometimes, one wonders would State of Medina would have ever be had they followed such reasoning... given Mekkah was so powerful in every sense...

Yes, we are bad muslims.. corrupt to the core... but perhaps we are still muslim. Should we stop believing in Divine Help because GanguFacistRegime has more men, machines and means than Pakistan?

I have also read some esteemed members here saying that that was at then this is now.. so we must adopt to new realities... again that subtle conditioning in the name of reason/logic/rationalism... I am all for logic/reason/rationality... but FAITH...

Anyhow, I have tried to convey something... yes, it is MangusonianSpeak... perhaps this an invitation to have some reflection... or perhaps it is not.. upto you.

Mayoosi kuffar hae.

Depending on weapons and not on the Divine is what actually?

Would be beautiful if we could have learned, experienced and esteemed members lift our spirits up than scarying us into submission into accepting GanguFacist Hegemony... conciously or unconcisouly is immaterial... as the effect of that is what matters.

Do forgive me for a rather incoherent, unlogical post... and request of unclear outcome... but I do trust your kindness and ability to overlook my vulgar attempt to PakPositive.

With kind regards,

Mangus

P.S. I have written enough on FazoolMullahMaffia and also in the Hybridwar I have highlighted how it has become a blackmailer of the PakState. So labelling me a Mullah might not hold water... but then it is what it is.
Statistically an optimist has much larger chance of success than a 'realist'. Data is out there....

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