COAS General Qamar Javed Bajwa visited Pentagon - was presented Guard of Honour with 21 Gun Salute

[khansaheeb]

I hope we get All F 16s upgraded to V standard and replace C5s witb Ds, get our Viper helicopters and upgradr P 3Cs.

How about some f22s

 

[Aamir Hussain]

The level of visits as per US State Department

According to official State Department guidelines, there are five types of visits to be accorded to a ranking member of a foreign government. They are: a "state visit," an "official visit," an "official working visit," a "working visit," and a "private visit."

The guidelines say that the "state visit" is the highest ranking visit and can only be offered to a chief of state -- such as the president of a country or a reigning monarch like Britain's Queen Elizabeth -- and must be at the invitation of the U.S. president.

During a state visit, the guest is offered a room for four days and three nights at Blair House, the President's official guest house, located within walking distance of the White House.

A state visit ensures a meeting with the U.S. president, a state dinner at the White House, a full honors arrival and departure ceremony on the south grounds of the White House, and a 21 gun salute. Gifts may be exchanged and spouses can attend the ceremonies and dinners. Press availability and photo opportunities are plentiful.

The next highest visit is the "official visit." An official visit can only be offered to a head of government such as a prime minister and must be at the invitation of the U.S. president.

The guest is offered quarters at Blair House for three nights and four days. During an official visit the head of the government is entitled to a meeting with the U.S. President, a full honors arrival and departure ceremony on the south grounds of the White House, a 19 gun salute and official dinner at the White House. Gifts may be exchanged and spouses can attend the ceremonies and dinners.

In practice there is little difference between a state visit and an official visit except for the rank of the visitor, the difference in the number of guns fired in salute the visitor receives and the description of the White House dinners -- a state dinner verses an official dinner.

However, there is a big difference between state and official visits and an official working visit or a working visit.

State Department guidelines say that an "official working visit" can be offered to either a chief of state or the head of a government, but it must be extended by the U.S. president himself.

Blair House is then offered for two nights and three days and the guest is entitled to a meeting with the President, followed by a working luncheon at the White House. A dinner or reception is possible, but decisions are only on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Secretary of State is a participant at the working luncheon so no separate meeting is arranged. There is no ceremony upon arrival and departure. The press is usually granted some photo opportunities and occasionally there is a press conference. There is no gift exchange and spouses do not attend the luncheon.

A "working visit" is the next in the rank of visits. A working visit is extended to a chief of state or head of government at the invitation of the U.S. president. A working visit normally consists of a meeting with the president at the White House, but without a luncheon, dinner or formal press availability. There is no gift exchange and spouses do not attend the luncheon.

The last type of visit is the "private visit." A private visit involves a chief of state, head of government, foreign minister or any other government official who arrives in the U.S. without the invitation of the U.S. president.

The visitor may request a meeting with the U.S. president and if it is granted, it is often referred to as a "working session." Blair House is not offered and spouses do not attend the session. There is no gift exchange and no official press availability although photo opportunities may be possible."

In IK case the US President invited him over for a working visit but with lunch included!!

BTW there have been four State Visits by Pakistani Presidents Ayub Khan x2, Zia ul Haq x 1, and Musharraf x 1. NS last visit to US was in the Private Visit Category.

The point being that IK was invited over to US for a number of reasons, paramount being the Afghan Peace Process.

I see some headway being made in Pak US relations after this visit. Keeping fingers crossed.

 

[Arsalan]

The level of visits as per US State Department

According to official State Department guidelines, there are five types of visits to be accorded to a ranking member of a foreign government. They are: a "state visit," an "official visit," an "official working visit," a "working visit," and a "private visit."

The guidelines say that the "state visit" is the highest ranking visit and can only be offered to a chief of state -- such as the president of a country or a reigning monarch like Britain's Queen Elizabeth -- and must be at the invitation of the U.S. president.

During a state visit, the guest is offered a room for four days and three nights at Blair House, the President's official guest house, located within walking distance of the White House.

A state visit ensures a meeting with the U.S. president, a state dinner at the White House, a full honors arrival and departure ceremony on the south grounds of the White House, and a 21 gun salute. Gifts may be exchanged and spouses can attend the ceremonies and dinners. Press availability and photo opportunities are plentiful.

The next highest visit is the "official visit." An official visit can only be offered to a head of government such as a prime minister and must be at the invitation of the U.S. president.

The guest is offered quarters at Blair House for three nights and four days. During an official visit the head of the government is entitled to a meeting with the U.S. President, a full honors arrival and departure ceremony on the south grounds of the White House, a 19 gun salute and official dinner at the White House. Gifts may be exchanged and spouses can attend the ceremonies and dinners.

In practice there is little difference between a state visit and an official visit except for the rank of the visitor, the difference in the number of guns fired in salute the visitor receives and the description of the White House dinners -- a state dinner verses an official dinner.

However, there is a big difference between state and official visits and an official working visit or a working visit.

State Department guidelines say that an "official working visit" can be offered to either a chief of state or the head of a government, but it must be extended by the U.S. president himself.

Blair House is then offered for two nights and three days and the guest is entitled to a meeting with the President, followed by a working luncheon at the White House. A dinner or reception is possible, but decisions are only on a case-by-case basis.

The U.S. Secretary of State is a participant at the working luncheon so no separate meeting is arranged. There is no ceremony upon arrival and departure. The press is usually granted some photo opportunities and occasionally there is a press conference. There is no gift exchange and spouses do not attend the luncheon.

A "working visit" is the next in the rank of visits. A working visit is extended to a chief of state or head of government at the invitation of the U.S. president. A working visit normally consists of a meeting with the president at the White House, but without a luncheon, dinner or formal press availability. There is no gift exchange and spouses do not attend the luncheon.

The last type of visit is the "private visit." A private visit involves a chief of state, head of government, foreign minister or any other government official who arrives in the U.S. without the invitation of the U.S. president.

The visitor may request a meeting with the U.S. president and if it is granted, it is often referred to as a "working session." Blair House is not offered and spouses do not attend the session. There is no gift exchange and no official press availability although photo opportunities may be possible."

In IK case the US President invited him over for a working visit but with lunch included!!

BTW there have been four State Visits by Pakistani Presidents Ayub Khan x2, Zia ul Haq x 1, and Musharraf x 1. NS last visit to US was in the Private Visit Category.

The point being that IK was invited over to US for a number of reasons, paramount being the Afghan Peace Process.

I see some headway being made in Pak US relations after this visit. Keeping fingers crossed.

IK visit is a Working Visit as per my info. Please confirm.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Yes it is but with a lunch thrown in

 

[Arsalan]

Yes it is but with a lunch thrown in

Chlo roti shotii k bandobast tu haa

On a serious note, i hope someone in our media is also highlighting these types of visits and explaining how Imran's visit is a working visit and not an official or state visit.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

All are official visits...invited over by US President. The exception is the Private Visit where a foreign head of state requests the US President for a meeting.

Given the recent relations between Pak & US, being invited over is, I believe, a positive sign.

 

[Arsalan]

All are official visits...invited over by US President. The exception is the Private Visit where a foreign head of state requests the US President for a meeting.

Given the recent relations between Pak & US, being invited over is, I believe, a positive sign.

I meant to say that it is not a State Visit or Official Visit as you mentioned but an "Official WORKING visit"

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What time waste

 

[Aamir Hussain]

What time waste

And how is that my friend?

 

[khansaheeb]

And how is that my friend?

Israel is looking for some puppets to poodle their attack on Iran.

 

[HAIDER]

Now Indian media is crying like little biatch all day.

 

[nomi007]

Only three major issues were discussed
1. Collation support fund
2. AH-1Z
3. T-129 engines

 

[Dazzler]

Only three major issues were discussed
1. Collation support fund
2. AH-1Z
3. T-129 engines

True..

it was about clear our dues that is all. No more yankee stuff discussed.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Israel is looking for some puppets to poodle their attack on Iran.

Waste of time and the reply is Israel.... I am sorry but bit confused. Were you rely to my question or was it just a statement?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Pakistan never received the upgrades when things were good with US, why do you expect things to change? But if Pakistan still wants American hardware, be prepared to pay cash.



In no way is Pakistan and US are on an equal footing in any way. I don't know what makes you say that.



The only thing Trump wants is an exit from Afghanistan, the same thing Pakistan wants. If this can be achieved, it will be a huge success for both sides. Everything else is secondary.



Did the US really invite Pakistan, or did Pakistan seek a meeting with Trump? According to the Arab News, it was MBS who helped broker the meeting, supposedly at the request of Pakistan.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1528406/world

If true, it belies your claim that US needs Pakistan more than Pakistan needs US.

Ok Indian