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China's co-prosperity vs. American defense export model

We have two inherently different models at work. Let's take a closer look at the Chinese economic co-prosperity model and the American military-industrial-complex defense export model.

At its core, China is saying "let's build bridges (and roads) between our nations for the benefit of all." This offer has been extended to Southeast Asia, Russia, and Central Asia.

Currently, China is majority-funding and building highways and railways through Laos and Thailand. The new highways and railways are expected to be completed in the next few years. Afterwards, the proposal is to extend the highways and railways into Malaysia and Cambodia.

These new highways and railways connect the small Southeast Asian nations' markets to the $11 TRILLION Chinese market. This increases the efficient transport of Chinese machine tools, affordable computers, and electrical machinery to the Southeast Asian nations. In return, the Southeast Asian countries can export whatever goods they want to the vast Chinese market.

Similarly, we see Russia nearing the completion of a bridge across a river on the Chinese border. Russia wants to earn hard currency and export to the Chinese market. The former Soviet Republics have depreciating national currencies and lack hard-currency reserves. Russian attempts to export to the former Soviet Republics don't make sense, because the markets are too small and the lack of hard-currency payment is a big problem. No one wants payment in a depreciating currency.

China's Belt-and-Road project has been greeted enthusiastically by Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan. Those five Stan countries do not want to stay undeveloped forever. The only way forward is to sell into the Chinese market and attempt to learn Chinese technology over time.

For example, Kazakhstan has publicly stated their national goal is to increase gas exports to China from roughly 10 billion cubic meters per year to 100 billion cubic meters per year. Kazakhstan wants to increase their gas exports to China by TEN FOLD.

Kazakhstan to increase gas exports to China | AZER NEWS

"Energy-rich Kazakhstan intends to increase the export and transit of gas to China up to 100 billion cubic meters per year.

This was announced by Erkanat Temirkhanov, Deputy General Director for Transformation and Development of KazTransGas JSC, who spoke at the 16th ERRA conference on investments and energy regulation, Kazinform reported."


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In contrast, the United States' core strategy is to sow discord among neighbors and drum up military sales. For example, the US arms Israel and turns around to sell downgraded F-16s to Saudi Arabia and Iraq.

The US stirs up trouble in Southeast Asia over the South China Sea and hopes for sales of expensive military equipment to the Philippines and Vietnam. Obviously, the sale of a $1 billion American arms package to Vietnam is a pittance compared to China's annual $152 billion military budget. The Vietnamese are hoping for an implicit US guarantee of armed intervention. Unfortunately, the Vietnamese are going to be disappointed. $1 billion does not buy an American commitment to fight a losing land war against China's 2.1 million-man modern military.

President Donald Trump has been dissatisfied with the lackluster performance of the American economy in comparison to the Chinese economy. Thus, President Trump has imposed economic sanctions on Canada over state-subsidies for Canada's Bombardier.

Furthermore, President Trump intends to rewrite NAFTA (or eject it altogether) to ensure greater benefits for American workers in the NAFTA trade agreement. This has alienated Canada and Mexico.

President Trump has talked about imposing new sanctions on Iran. Some new sanctions were imposed on Venezuelan government officials. There was talk about imposing some sanctions on Thailand's military government. There was previously talk about withholding some military aid from Egypt's military government. There are current discussions in the United States about imposing new sanctions on Myanmar over its battle with the Muslim Rohingya Rebels and the displacement of civilian Rohingya.

The United States has been creating distrust among neighboring countries to stimulate arms sales. The United States also liberally uses economic sanctions against ANY country it does not currently like. The Russians found out that the reclamation of Crimea was not permitted by the United States and severe sanctions were imposed on Russia.

The United States foreign policy can be summed up in one word: The STICK. If you don't follow US policy, your country will have to face The STICK of US military and economic power. Being bombed or economically sanctioned is designed to bring other countries in line with US policy.

On the other hand, China offers the chance of mutual co-operation and prosperity. If a country is not satisfied with the terms of China's deal, there is no penalty. China merely looks elsewhere for new business opportunities. For example, the Nepalese legislature demanded a second review of a Chinese Friendship Dam proposal in Nepal. China gave the Nepalese legislature a thirty-day deadline to accept or reject the generous Chinese offer. The Nepalese legislature wisely and quickly accepted the Chinese Friendship terms for the dam.

China's foreign policy can be summed up in one word: The CARROT. China comes to the table and is willing to suggest projects that are mutually beneficial to both countries. If the proposal makes sense, the partner country can sign on the bottom line and the project moves forward. If the other country doesn't like the deal, nothing happens. There is no Chinese economic sanction for not agreeing to a proposed deal.

China offers the possibility that Central Asia nations can someday have cities as developed as China's Urumqi in Xinjiang Province. China offers development over time. China is helping to upgrade the infrastructure of neighboring Central Asian countries. Long term, China is offering a US-Canada relationship to the Central Asian nations. China is the main economic and technological hub. Over time, Kazakhstan and other Central Asian Stans can become junior partners to the Chinese $11 trillion economy.

China's Urumqi is probably the most advanced city in Western China/Central Asia. It offers a beacon of mutual prosperity and development into the future.

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Photograph of China's Urumqi City in Xinjiang Province. China's modernity beckons to Central Asian countries.

In conclusion, I don't think current US foreign policy is working. In the future, the US may switch to a more Chinese-looking model. A lot more carrots and a lot less stick.

This comparative analysis is a material for any PoliSci class such as Comparative Politics, my brother (and compatriot). I, for one, won't definitely let it go unnoticed or under-utilized.

Many many thanks.

@Chinese-Dragon , @Dungeness , @AndrewJin , @Jlaw , @terranMarine , @+4vsgorillas-Apebane et al.
 
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It's not important how others view you. I care more if they fear you. That's ultimate power.

Definitely so. As I argued in #14 on this thread, respect and fear out of sheer material power is the most significant for national survival.

Sympathy and love out of meekness and weakness is unsustainable.

Soft power needs to be an outcome of hard power, not the vice versa.

I value "respect" component more than "fear" component of hard power, however. Fear may encourage irrational acts of violence (as happened in 9/11), respect, on the other hand, ensures stability, predictability and opportunities for cooperation.

I guess "respect" inherently has both components of fear and admiration. In any case, respect and fear, both, cannot be artificially constructed. They have to be natural outcomes of national hard (economic, military, scientific, ideological) power.
 
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Why couldn't he? You live in the US also as the Yankees bombed Vietnam into a hell hole :rolleyes:
Did I say Marty could not live in the US ? It was meant to point out the hypocrisy.

You should know by now that polls like this one are not very indicative of reality. All it takes is something happens in Tibet, for example, and China's image goes down.

Bottom line is this -- that the US still enjoys favorable rating. And your China still has a long way to go.
 
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America is truly blessed to still have such a score despite their narcissistic behaviour the world over.

It's unfortunate that the constant shit flinging by the western media have created such a negative image of China.

Chinese propaganda still has a long way to go to match the west in smear and gutter journalism. Chinese media is still too blunt and clumsy compared to the sleek nuanced condescension the west is so good at.

My dream is that one day Chinese media can fling shit just as hard and skillfully as their western counterparts.
 
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Did I say Marty could not live in the US ? It was meant to point out the hypocrisy.

You should know by now that polls like this one are not very indicative of reality. All it takes is something happens in Tibet, for example, and China's image goes down.

Bottom line is this -- that the US still enjoys favorable rating. And your China still has a long way to go.

What hypocrisy? American citizens can't criticize US government now? :lol: A poll doesn't necessary mean anything, personally i don't care about a nation's image. It's a subjective topic anyway. If you believe the world views US more favorable regardless of the endless wars it has been waging that's your personal freedom if you are truly convinced of it. Martin however doesn't think so, thus there's nothing hypocritical in my opinion.
 
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Did I say Marty could not live in the US ? It was meant to point out the hypocrisy.

You should know by now that polls like this one are not very indicative of reality. All it takes is something happens in Tibet, for example, and China's image goes down.

Bottom line is this -- that the US still enjoys favorable rating. And your China still has a long way to go.
What hypocrisy?

Clearly, you (Gambit) do not understand America. The Constitution's First Amendment enshrines the Right to Free Speech. This means American citizens are supposed to voice their opinions and let other Americans decide whether his/her viewpoint is valid.

On the other hand, your attitude (Gambit) is consistent with Nazi Germany. Anyone that disagrees with the Fuhrer is an enemy of the state.

I suggest you read the American Constitution. The US Supreme Court has consistently ruled that political speech deserves the highest constitutional protection. I am expressing a political view to explain America's falling favorability rating on the international scene.

On the other hand, you (Gambit) are violating etiquette by attacking a poster. Instead of discussing the ideas presented, you are attacking a person (me) personally. You are the malfeasant.

Geopolitical forums are meant to discuss issues related to countries, such as China and the United States. They are not intended to scrutinize whether my viewpoints are in conformity with your tastes.
 
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