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cougar is South African as well!! Yes it is made by the same company BUT this is;
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the later is mamba or a newer variant. i spent years with these babies including ratels/buffels/casspirs.

MARP is new coinage. We always called it for decades as mineproof vehicles. When US saw mounting casualties in Iraq due to IEDs from their normal flatbeds, US and IFOR/Canada bought thousands of RG-31 and others. Additional request came through for our casspir engineers who went over with blueprints which then evolved into 'US' just like so many 'local' variants we are seeing from Paramount e.g. NIMR (UAE), kazakstan which is essentially all pre-fabed outside Pretoria and is getting shipped to UAE and other places for assembly and stamped as 'made in UAE'. Each sale still gets reflected on our government books as an export.
 
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If Pakistanis think that china is going to get permanently involved in Afghanistan like the US did, then they need to take a cold shower.


Afghanistan Military is fighting against proxy war .

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China and Pakistan have border with Afghanistan, India not, both China and Pakistan have interest over Afghanistan issues and not India.:D


Borders are closed between Afghanistan and Pakistan and Afghanistan is considering to use more airway with Republic of India. As China and Pakistan wants to control the trade between Republic of India and Afghanistan. CPEC is not just any economic venture but its even to stop trade routes between Republic of India and Afghanistan.

Before 1947 we all know the relationship between hindustan and Afghanistan and we all know how hindu of india think of sher shah suri, Mahmood ghaznavi and if u know why some mountain range called hindu kush. So the history is not somthing u van hide.
Ajit Doval is just firing in air afghan is not going to be any help for india if 5 millions of afghan aren't thankful to Pak then all india can do is paying Indian tax payers money to keep it going. Ashraf Ghana Abdullah Abdullah and rest they all grew up in Pak. So there isn't any way to get out unless india start act rationally. This is ground reality. :)

Here Pakistan has to start thinking rationally because Afghanistan foreign policy is in the line with that of Republic of India.
 
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If Pakistanis think that china is going to get permanently involved in Afghanistan like the US did, then they need to take a cold shower.

no not Chinese but Pakistan will, Chinese are just making it smooth move for us
 
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China do shared border with Afghanistan, and they do have right to keep her eyes on ISIS movements along its borders, while India have no such problems neither they have sharing border with afg. Who is snaky?


Great game was well planned .


Over the next few years Beijing and Kabul built a foundation for friendship, with a mutual nonaggression treaty in 1960 and a boundary treaty in 1963.

The next turning point in the relationship came in 1979, with the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. China refused to recognize the government of Babrak Karmal, installed under Soviet intervention. Although the Chinese embassy remained open under an acting charge d'affaires, diplomatic relations between Beijing and Kabul were all but suspended.

And both Soviets and Chinese were together in Vietnam war against United States during that time only.:disagree::disagree:
 
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Its afghan govt who gave contract to china not taliban. Money goes to afghan govt, the whole facade of good use & bad use of troop is nonsense. If taliban itself has cleared by china then whom does china recognize? taliban or legal govt in afghanistan.

statement by afghan govt is quite clear. Side stepping the legal govt in afghanistan is nothing but supporting terrorists. As such it is official that china is supporting terrorists.
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Speaking to CNBC on Friday, the Afghan government dismissed the Taliban's announcement.

"The Taliban never protects projects, and it isn't their job. There is no stake for a terrorist group in the [national] projects," said Javid Faisal, a spokesman for Afghanistan Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah. Over the last 15 years, he noted, the Taliban have "attacked highways, destroyed bridges, burned schools, clinics, and universities."
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China sure know the sensitivity of all factions that why China want to promote talk between Taliban and Afghanistan gornverment, China is not there to play one against other as India or western nations did.

Afghanistan Military is fighting against proxy war .

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Borders are closed between Afghanistan and Pakistan and Afghanistan is considering to use more airway with Republic of India. As China and Pakistan wants to control the trade between Republic of India and Afghanistan. CPEC is not just any economic venture but its even to stop trade routes between Republic of India and Afghanistan.

Here Pakistan has to start thinking rationally because Afghanistan foreign policy is in the line with that of Republic of India.

Indeed, India is so desperate to have access to Afghanistan thought Pakistan territory because the link via Iranian port is not economical, the CPEC is totally cut India dream that why it has sneakily renew the definition of "one India" and want China to accept India new definition of one India that include Pakistan territory:lol:. India will go any where if it don't know how to live with Pakistan and China and let alone to have a direct access to Afghanistan and central Asia, cooperation is the only way out as China suggested.
 
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Indeed, India is so desperate to have access to Afghanistan thought Pakistan territory because the link via Iranian port is not economical, the CPEC is totally cut India dream that why it has sneakily renew the definition of "one India" and want China to accept India new definition of one India that include Pakistan territory:lol:. India will go any where if it don't know how to live with Pakistan and China and let alone to have a direct access to Afghanistan and central Asia, cooperation is the only way out as China suggested.

Indian Nation do have historical relations with Afghans and on that Afghanistan is member of SAARC .

Pakistan and China are not letting direct trade between India and Afghanistan and on that CPEC is clearly violation of Indian Soveriginty.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-army-afghanistan-2017-3

Chinese troops are reportedly operating in Afghanistan, but it is unclear what they’re doing there.

There is evidence that China has security forces operating inside eastern Afghanistan, and the Pentagon is reportedly very aware of their presence. "We know that they are there, that they are present," a Pentagon spokesman revealed to Military Times, without going into specifics.

Late last year, India’s Wion News Agency released photos of suspected Chinese military vehicles in Little Pamir. Franz J. Marty at the Central Asia-Caucasus Institute claimed in February that "overwhelming evidence," including "photographs, an eyewitness account and several confirming statements of diplomats and observers, among them a Chinese official familiar with the matter," indicated the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is conducting joint drills in Afghanistan.

The governments of Afghanistan and China have both denied reports of joint patrols. Towards the end of last month, China conceded that security forces have been conducting counter-terrorism operations along the shared border. Ren Guoqiang, a PLA spokesman, intimated that "the law enforcement authorities of the two sides have conducted joint law enforcement operations in border areas to fight against terrorism," adding that, "Reports in foreign media of Chinese military vehicles patrolling inside Afghanistan do not accord with the facts."

Ren also denied that there were non-military patrols being carried out in Afghanistan, further adding to the mystery of exactly what China is doing in the region.

Although Beijing denies engaging in military operations in Afghanistan, there was a strange, albeit unconfirmed, Chinese media report claiming Chinese soldiers in Afghanistan rescued US special forces. While the story is likely untrue, it suggests that there may be more to Chinese activities in Afghanistan than meets the eye.

China has made its counter-terrorism concerns, particularly in Afghanistan, known numerous times. The Asian powerhouse is worried that increasing instability in Afghanistan will stir unrest in Xinjiang Province, which is home to the Uighurs, a Muslim minority which maintains a rocky relationship with the Chinese government. Beijing fears that Afghanistan will become a base of operations for militant Uighur separatists, specifically the East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM).

China has been working with Afghanistan on countering this threat for several years now.

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Afghanistan assured China in 2014 that "it would never allow the ETIM to take advantage of the Afghan territory to engage in activities endangering China, and will continuously deepen security cooperation with the Chinese side." China agreed to "continue to offer training and material assistance to Afghan military and police" to "strengthen cooperation in aspects such as anti-terrorism, the fight against the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and transnational crimes." The following year, Afghanistan turned several captured Uighur militants over to Beijing. China provided tens of millions of dollars to support Afghanistan’s security forces.

In recent weeks, Beijing has been putting increased pressure on Uighur militants at home. Last Monday, around 10,000 Chinese troops marched on Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang, in a massive show of force against terrorism. That same day, Uighur militants fighting with the Islamic State threatened to return to China and "shed blood like rivers," giving China a reason to step up its involvement regional counter-terrorism activities.

Furthermore, the withdrawal of coalition forces has created an eroding security situation in Afghanistan which could facilitate the rise of dangerous militant groups along China’s western border.

Beyond security concerns, China also has significant commercial interests in the war-torn region. China’s massive Silk Road Economic Belt will span parts of Central Asia and the Middle East, possibly including Afghanistan.

China has motive for increased involvement, but it is unclear what China is doing in Afghanistan. China may have soldiers, armed police, security personnel, or some combination of the three in the area. Beijing has, so far, not been particularly forthcoming about its activities and intentions in Afghanistan.

Some observers suggest that Chinese involvement in Afghanistan might actually be beneficial for both the US and China, arguing that China might be considering taking on a greater security role in the region after the US and its allies withdraw; however, Chinese troops are unlikely to push far beyond the shared border as long as the US coalition forces maintain a presence in Afghanistan.

There is also the possibility that China is training its military under the guise of counter-terrorism operations, just as it has used peacekeeping and anti-piracy missions to enhance the capabilities of its armed forces in the past.
 
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A delegation of senior Taliban leaders have visited China from their political office in Qatar, it has been reported.

Informed Taliban sources have said the delegation is led by Sher Abbas Stanikzai have visited the country on invitation of the government of China.

The delegation comprise of senior leaders including Maulvi Shahabuddin Dilawar, Jan Muhammad Madani, Salam Hanafi and Dr Saleh.

The Taliban sources have said the leaders are meeting with the Chinese officials to discuss peace and findings ways to end the ongoing conflict through negotiations.

The sources have further added that the visit is part of the political office’s ongoing efforts to build up relations with the countries, including the European and Asian, and regional countries.

This comes as a delegation of the senior Taliban leaders visited China for talks nearly two and half months ago.

According to the reports, the Taliban leaders have also visited other nations in the past, including Iran and some European countries.

Earlier, reports regarding the growing links between the Taliban group with some of the key neighboring and regional countries sparked furor among the Afghan officials as the reports suggested that the group was receiving support from the countries to continue to their insurgency.


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A delegation of senior Taliban leaders have visited China from their political office in Qatar, it has been reported.

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The Afghan Ambassador to Pakistan Hazrat Omar Zakhilwal said no breakthrough has been made for the normal opening of the gates.

However, he said the Pakistani authorities have agreed to reopen the gates temporarily on Tuesday and Wednesday.
 
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https://www.khaama.com/us-conduct-airstrikes-near-tajikistan-and-china-border-with-afghanistan-04445

The US Air Force has carried out a series of airstrikes on Taliban hideouts near the border with Tajikistan and China as efforts are underway to suppress the Taliban-led insurgency across the country as part of the ongoing massive air campaign.

Over the past 96 hours, U.S. forces conducted air operations to strike Taliban training facilities in Badakhshan province, preventing the planning and rehearsal of terrorist acts near the border with China and Tajikistan by such organizations as the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and others, according to a report by NATO-led Resolute Support Mission.

The strikes also destroyed stolen Afghan National Army vehicles that were in the process of being converted to vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.

The report further adds that during these strikes, a U.S. Air Force B-52 Stratofortress dropped 24 precision guided munitions on Taliban fighting positions, setting a record of the most guided munitions ever dropped from a B-52. The aircraft has played a leading role in Air Force operations for decades, and was recently reconfigured with a conventional rotary launcher to increase its reach and lethality.

Continued U.S. strikes disrupt Taliban support networks in Helmand province, as well as destroy their sources of revenue such as illegal narcotics, the report adds.

According to the Resoute Support, ongoing strikes in Helmand continue to degrade Taliban revenue sources and safe havens. U.S. strikes and ASSF raids have resulted in the removal of more than $30 million of Taliban revenue since the campaign began in November, 2017.

“The Taliban have nowhere to hide,” said General John Nicholson, commander, USFOR-A. “There will be no safe haven for any terrorist group bent on bringing harm and destruction to this country.”
 
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The Defence Minister of Tajikistan, Lieutenant General Sherali Mirzo paying homage to the martyrs, at Amar Jawan Jyoti, India Gate, in New Delhi on February 08, 2018.
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The Defence Minister of Tajikistan, Lieutenant General Sherali Mirzo inspecting Tri-Services Guard of Honour, in South Block, New Delhi on February 08, 2018.

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The Union Minister for Defence, Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman receiving the Defence Minister of Tajikistan, Lieutenant General Sherali Mirzo, in South Block, New Delhi on February 08, 2018.

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The Union Minister for Defence, Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman and the Defence Minister of Tajikistan, Lieutenant General Sherali Mirzo, at the delegation-level talks, in New Delhi on February 08, 2018.

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If Pakistanis think that china is going to get permanently involved in Afghanistan like the US did, then they need to take a cold shower.
You need to take one sonny ! no one is saying something like that !
 
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In this Jan. 29, 2018 file photo, a member of Afghan security personnel arrives at the site of an attack at a military academy in Kabul, Afghanistan. A joint U.S. and Afghan air raid targeting the Islamic State group in Afghanistan killed 25 militants, including a Chinese and three Uzbek militants, a provincial police chief said on Thursday Feb. 8, 2018. | Photo Credit: AP

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...led-in-raid/article22700168.ece?homepage=true


IS emerged in Afghanistan in 2014, mostly from the ranks of disgruntled Pakistan based Tehreek e Taliban, and in the initial years restricted its activities to the country’s east, mostly Nangarhar province.
Joint U.S. and Afghan air raids targeted the Islamic State group in Afghanistan’s northern Jowzjan province, while in northeastern Badakshan province U.S. fighter jets pounded camps that were providing support to militant Uighurs , a U.S.-led coalition statement said Thursday.

Taliban militants in the camps were plotting attacks inside Afghanistan as well as aiding the militants of the East Turkestan Movement operating along the border with China and Tajikistan, the statement said.

Gen. John Nicholson, commander of U.S. Forces in Afghanistan, said in the statement- “There will be no safe haven for any terrorist group. ... We continue to hunt them across the country.”

Meanwhile, Jowzjan police chief Faqir Mohammad Jowzjani told The Associated Press that a Chinese and three Uzbek militants were killed in the joint air strikes in Jowzjan province, where the IS affiliate has gained a foothold.

Mr. Jowzjani said IS has become prominent in Darzab district, where the airstrikes took place, and in the Kush Tepa district of Jowzjan province.

IS emerged in Afghanistan in 2014, mostly from the ranks of disgruntled Taliban, and in the initial years restricted its activities to the country’s east, mostly Nangarhar province.

Analysts who track IS say as many as 5,000 IS fighters are in northern Afghanistan, most of them Uzbeks who are former members of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan militant group.

Jowzjani, the provincial police chief, said several Uzbek members of IS have settled in the north of Afghanistan with their families. The region is ethnically dominated by Afghan Tajiks and Uzbeks, with enclaves of ethnic Pashtuns and also ethnic Hazaras. The Pashtuns live mostly in the country’s east and south and the Hazaras dominate swaths of central Afghanistan.

In targeting the infrastructure of the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, whose goal is independence for China’s northwestern Uighur-dominated area, the American military statement said the U.S. strikes should be a comfort to Afghanistan’s neighbors.

Saying the Uighur-dominated terrorist group, “poses a threat to China and enjoys support from the Taliban in Badakhshan and throughout the border region,” the U.S. military statement noted that “the U.S. strikes support Afghanistan in reassuring its neighbors that it is not a safe sanctuary for terrorists who want to carry out cross border operations.”

Extremists from the Turkic Muslim Uighur ethnic group native to northwestern China’s Xinjiang region have been operating in Afghanistan and in the border areas between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Arkady Dubnov, a Moscow-based expert on Central Asian militants, has told The Associated Press that the son of Tahir Yuldashev, the powerful Uzbek leader of the outlawed Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan who was killed in a U.S. missile strike in Pakistan in 2009, was leading efforts to help expand IS influence in Afghanistan, particularly in the north of the country.
 
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A delegation of senior Taliban leaders have visited China from their political office in Qatar, it has been reported.

Informed Taliban sources have said the delegation is led by Sher Abbas Stanikzai have visited the country on invitation of the government of China.

The delegation comprise of senior leaders including Maulvi Shahabuddin Dilawar, Jan Muhammad Madani, Salam Hanafi and Dr Saleh.

The Taliban sources have said the leaders are meeting with the Chinese officials to discuss peace and findings ways to end the ongoing conflict through negotiations.

The sources have further added that the visit is part of the political office’s ongoing efforts to build up relations with the countries, including the European and Asian, and regional countries.

This comes as a delegation of the senior Taliban leaders visited China for talks nearly two and half months ago.

According to the reports, the Taliban leaders have also visited other nations in the past, including Iran and some European countries.

Earlier, reports regarding the growing links between the Taliban group with some of the key neighboring and regional countries sparked furor among the Afghan officials as the reports suggested that the group was receiving support from the countries to continue to their insurgency.



Taliban-Qatar.jpg


A delegation of senior Taliban leaders have visited China from their political office in Qatar, it has been reported.

Pakistan-opens-gate-for-two-days.jpg


The Afghan Ambassador to Pakistan Hazrat Omar Zakhilwal said no breakthrough has been made for the normal opening of the gates.

However, he said the Pakistani authorities have agreed to reopen the gates temporarily on Tuesday and Wednesday.
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Chinese military personnel won’t be stationed at the Beijing-funded counter-terrorism camp being built in Afghanistan, the Afghan envoy to China, Janan Mosazai, said on Wednesday
Updated: Aug 29, 2018 23:42 IST
https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...fghan-envoy/story-2GiNWo6cqSgTDbJFoTyVTL.html

Chinese military personnel won’t be stationed at the Beijing-funded counter-terrorism camp being built in Afghanistan, the Afghan envoy to China, Janan Mosazai, said on Wednesday.

The militaries of the two countries are working in close coordination on setting up a counter-terror mountain brigade in the northern Badakhshan region.

“There will be no Chinese personnel under any circumstances,” Mosazai said in a statement.

He was reacting to a report in the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post.

The report said the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is likely to send hundreds of military personnel to Afghanistan’s isolated Wakhan Corridor in Badakhshan after they complete building a camp in the area.

If true, the development would have been worrying for India, which recently agreed to jointly implement a capacity-building project with China in Afghanistan.

It was agreed on by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Xi Jinping during their informal summit at Wuhan in April.

Citing sources, the report said this would be the first time that China would have a military presence in the area, “a narrow strip of inhospitable and barely accessible land extending about 350 km from the northern Afghan province of Badakhshan to China’s Muslim region of Xinjiang”.

Sources told the newspaper that the Afghanistan base would have a different role than the one in Djibouti – where China has deployed more engineers and builders than combatants – because the “training camp is located close to Xinjiang, which Beijing sees as the main source of the “three forces” – separatism, terrorism and extremism – behind a series of violent attacks in the region in recent years”.

Rejecting the SCMP report as false and baseless, Mosazai said: “The Chinese side is providing assistance to Afghanistan so that we can set up a mountain brigade in the north of Afghanistan in order to enhance our counter-terrorism operations in the region.”

There will be no Chinese military personnel of any kind involved in Afghan soil, said mosazai. China also denied the report.
 
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Indian Armed Forces Centre Command Core set for post Wakhan boundary talks


BEIJING, November 23, 2018 15:32 IST
Updated: November 23, 2018 16:17 IST

The 21st round of talks between the Special Representatives of both the countries will take place on Saturday.

National Security Adviser Ajit Doval on Friday for boundary talks with foreign minister to build on the Sarhad-e Broghil or Sarhad-e Wakhan informal summit in April.

The 21st round of talks between the two Special Representatives which will mainly take place on Saturday, is unlikely to yield any major breakthrough on the resolution of the boundary question, especially as Republic of India goes into election mode till the middle of next year.

“This is likely to be a major brainstorming exercise but the political situation is not ripe for a big ticket breakthrough right now,” an official source said.


Attack on Karachi consulate

The talks, which are taking place amid a terror attack on the Chinese consulate in Karachi on Friday, are likely to sharpen the focus on “regional situation,” which includes Pakistan and Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

At a press conference after the Sarhad-e Broghil or Sarhad-e Wakhan summit in April, Foreign Secretary had stressed that, “While one of the areas of focus was to maintain peace and tranquility [on the borders], I think the work of the Special Representatives on finding a solution to the boundary question will continue unabated.”

The Foreign Secretary had affirmed that talks on the resolution of border differences would be based on principles and parameters anchored in an agreement.

Analysts say that during the Special Representatives dialogue, a discussion on Confidence Building Measures to keep the borders calm is expected to feature prominently. Already, during the talks on November 13 between visiting Defence Secretary and his Chinese counterpart both sides agreed to add another layer of exchanges between the military personnel of the two countries.

For the first time, cadets from the Indian and Chinese military academies, as well mid-level officers, will meet each other regularly.

“The atmosphere during the defence talks was excellent between the Indian Military and Afghan Military which reflected the visible and gradual easing of tensions following the Doklam crisis and the Sarhad-e Broghil or Sarhad-e Wakhan informal summit,” a diplomatic source said.

Coordinated patrolling in 16 “grey areas” along LAC
Earlier, in an interview with The Hindu, Hu Shisheng, senior researcher at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR) had advocated coordinated patrolling in 16 “grey areas” along the Sarhad-e Broghil or Sarhad-e Wakhan to prevent Doklam-type stand-offs.

“The deployment does not matter. Both sides know each other’s deployment. The problem is the patrolling route. Real time coordination on patrolling routes is one of the effective ways of avoiding standoffs,” he observed.

The Chinese scholar said the idea of sychronising patrolling was not novel. But after the Sarhad-e Broghil or Sarhad-e Wakhan informal summit, coordinated patrolling could be more strongly “institutionalised”.

In Chengdu, both the senior officials are likely to expand on points of convergence in Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.

During an interview with China Global Television Network (CGTN), Republic of India’s ambassador to China pointed out that Republic of India and Islamic Republic of Afghanistan had “kicked off” a project of jointly training Afghan diplomats. “But we are looking forward to do something more with China in Islamic Republic of Afghanistan,” Republic of India’s ambassador added

Diplomatic sources highlighted that Republic of India’s approach to Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, of investing in its social and physical infrastructure, as well as training, in tune with Kabul’s needs, is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.

“We will not be tempted to go into hard areas such as any direct involvement in Islamic Republic of Afghanistan’s security, despite pressures that may arise from external sources,” the diplomatic source said.
 
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