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Chinese SMEs eager to relocate to Pakistan
By Usman Hanif
Published: November 23, 2019
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KARACHI: Chinese small and medium enterprises (SMEs) are willing to relocate to Pakistan, which will support the government’s programme of import substitution and increase in exports.

“Exhibitors are not here (at the Expo Centre) to sell their products rather they just want to exhibit and observe the pattern of demand so that they could form joint ventures with local businessmen and introduce products which have high demand,” said Khursheed Nizam, the organiser of the 2nd International Consumer Product Fair at the Karachi Expo Centre.

He pointed out that Pakistan was a cheap country with a large population, which attracted businessmen from other nations. However, he stressed, the focus was on China because Pakistan had the largest trade deficit with it and in addition to that, the Chinese government directed the SMEs to relocate to Pakistan.



“In China, the cost of production has increased manifold compared to its neighbours due to which Chinese businessmen are relocating the less sophisticated industries to other countries,” said Nizam.

According to him, the labour cost in China is around $1,000 per month while in Pakistan it is nearly $200.

“After establishing joint ventures, these new companies will employ 97% of the workforce from Pakistan whereas 3% will be Chinese, who will comprise project managers and those who will oversee the business,” he said. “Cheap labour means cheap products, which will help steer import substitution in Pakistan.”

He revealed that in the next phase these joint ventures would start exporting merchandise to the Middle East, Central Asia and other nearby countries.

“This is a win-win situation for all the parties,” remarked Nizam. “Pakistan can become a manufacturing hub if it strives enough.”

China had noted that Pakistan was an agricultural economy, hence, it exported raw material instead of value-added goods, he said.

Rather than exporting corn, the country needed to export cornflakes and in this mission, China was willing to lend support by providing technology, he added.

Although China has 6,000 factories producing Halal food, it lacks credibility as people do not consider China capable enough to produce Halal food. “Keeping this in view, Pakistan can become a Halal kitchen of the world,” he said.

“There are 1.6 billion Muslims around the world and Pakistan has the potential to cater to the demand from many of them,” he said. “China intends to help us in this area by providing packaging and preservation technology as the Chinese are good at them.”

Pakistan loses 50% of its fruit and vegetable produce due to outdated farm practices. Chinese preservation techniques could help save the complete produce, which could be exported, the exhibition organiser said.

Published in The Express Tribune, November 23rd, 2019.

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Having seen chinese business operate in Pakistan, i would say such steps should not be encouraged. We love china but this will destroy our local industry. The chinese SMEs i ve seen in Pakistan import everything for their business, from food they eat to the tea they drink and all machines and materials are imported, this increases import. They also never hire locals and bring their own man power. They never use any local services either, they even use chinese imported vehicles for transportation. In the end the profit is also taken out. Doesnt seem to give any advantage to Pakistan, they just take advantage of our tax breaks and least regulatory rules and take the money home. I dont see how this helps Pakistan.
 
The chinese SMEs i ve seen in Pakistan import everything for their business, from food they eat to the tea they drink and all machines and materials are imported, this increases import. They also never hire locals and bring their own man power. They never use any local services either, they even use chinese imported vehicles for transportation.
Ever seen a genuine manufacturer from China relocating to Pakistan? What you have there now are just import companies, and companies serving them.

I asked a few people in the industry a year ago, and a lot told that they don't even know where Pakistan is. That's the reality. Your investment office really needs to campaign harder.
 
Having seen chinese business operate in Pakistan, i would say such steps should not be encouraged. We love china but this will destroy our local industry. The chinese SMEs i ve seen in Pakistan import everything for their business, from food they eat to the tea they drink and all machines and materials are imported, this increases import. They also never hire locals and bring their own man power. They never use any local services either, they even use chinese imported vehicles for transportation. In the end the profit is also taken out. Doesnt seem to give any advantage to Pakistan, they just take advantage of our tax breaks and least regulatory rules and take the money home. I dont see how this helps Pakistan.

Does this mean we should not allow them to shift their businesses to Pakistan? I believe these can be regulated. Minimum percentage of local labour and management can be fixed and get it implemented. While allowing such businesses relocation, a reasonable balance in industries meant for manufacturing of products for local consumption and export shall be created. At the same time we shall allow other countries for the same to create a broader interest of multiple countries. Am sure this arrangement will go a long way for peace and stability of Pakistan.
 
Does this mean we should not allow them to shift their businesses to Pakistan? I believe these can be regulated. Minimum percentage of local labour and management can be fixed and get it implemented. While allowing such businesses relocation, a reasonable balance in industries meant for manufacturing of products for local consumption and export shall be created. At the same time we shall allow other countries for the same to create a broader interest of multiple countries. Am sure this arrangement will go a long way for peace and stability of Pakistan.
My view on this: realistically speaking, Pakistan has no other option to importing consumer goods from China, just as many, many, many other countries.

The money can go to your own importers who will then go to Alibaba.com, do some random picks and be sure they will then resell that for twenty fold the original price. Pakistani side then pays its FX for goods at near retail price in China.

Or, money can go to a Chinese importer operating in Pakistan, who is good at bargaining, and knows the market better than a person doing 5 minute search on Alibaba. All profits are registered in PKR, and taxes are paid in full locally. Pakistani side will then expend FX only on goods at a good wholesale price.
 
According to him, the labour cost in China is around $1,000 per month while in Pakistan it is nearly $200.

“After establishing joint ventures, these new companies will employ 97% of the workforce from Pakistan whereas 3% will be Chinese, who will comprise project managers and those who will oversee the business,” he said. “Cheap labour means cheap products, which will help steer import substitution in Pakistan.”

He revealed that in the next phase these joint ventures would start exporting merchandise to the Middle East, Central Asia and other nearby countries.

“This is a win-win situation for all the parties,” remarked Nizam. “Pakistan can become a manufacturing hub if it strives enough.”

China had noted that Pakistan was an agricultural economy, hence, it exported raw material instead of value-added goods, he said.

Rather than exporting corn, the country needed to export cornflakes and in this mission, China was willing to lend support by providing technology, he added.

Although China has 6,000 factories producing Halal food, it lacks credibility as people do not consider China capable enough to produce Halal food. “Keeping this in view, Pakistan can become a Halal kitchen of the world,” he said.

“There are 1.6 billion Muslims around the world and Pakistan has the potential to cater to the demand from many of them,” he said. “China intends to help us in this area by providing packaging and preservation technology as the Chinese are good at them.”

Pakistan loses 50% of its fruit and vegetable produce due to outdated farm practices. Chinese preservation techniques could help save the complete produce, which could be exported, the exhibition organiser said.

Read the article guys, lots of good stuff in there, most of it potential of course. We need to add regulation to encourage this potential. Take the paragraph I highlighted. We should add a rule to say that any Chinese company hiring a Chinese worker in Pakistan is obligated to train 2 Pakistani's to do the same role. Once they have trained people, it makes more sense to hire the local, than continue paying the Chinese higher rates to work in a foreign country.

Intially we will have to accept an import hit, but if these factories start producing stuff to export, we benefit from that.
 
Does this mean we should not allow them to shift their businesses to Pakistan? I believe these can be regulated. Minimum percentage of local labour and management can be fixed and get it implemented. While allowing such businesses relocation, a reasonable balance in industries meant for manufacturing of products for local consumption and export shall be created. At the same time we shall allow other countries for the same to create a broader interest of multiple countries. Am sure this arrangement will go a long way for peace and stability of Pakistan.

Thats how its done everywhere and thats how it should be done but thats not the case here.
 
My view on this: realistically speaking, Pakistan has no other option to importing consumer goods from China, just as many, many, many other countries.

The money can go to your own importers who will then go to Alibaba.com, do some random picks and be sure they will then resell that for twenty fold the original price. Pakistani side then pays its FX for goods at near retail price in China.

Or, money can go to a Chinese importer operating in Pakistan, who is good at bargaining, and knows the market better than a person doing 5 minute search on Alibaba. All profits are registered in PKR, and taxes are paid in full locally. Pakistani side will then expend FX only on goods at a good wholesale price.

Its not only about importer sitting here in Pakistan imports who sells here cheaply. In fact shifting export industry is a win win situation for both countries. These industries will manufacture something here and then export it through Gwadar or Karachi port, this arrangement will save at least 15 days of transportation to these ports for its final destination along with transportation costs and risks. Manufacturers will get cheap labour and tax relaxations/ incentives and still be able to transfer their profits back home. Not only this, even Alibaba can provide locally manufactured goods to local market within reduced time and cost. Similarly goods for local consumption will also be cheap and profits can be transferred back home. Finally once the rail/ road infrastructure will come up, countries who are at the moment opposing this project will come in and find their share. Case in example can be Ms Wells statement followed by statements by Chinese ambassador and Asad Umar and at the end Ms Wells states that US is sending 15 business delegations next year.
 
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Best move, more tax collections and more employment. Government should make it easier for foreign companies to invest in Pakistan.
 
Its not only about importer sitting here in Pakistan imports who sells here cheaply. In fact shifting export industry is a win win situation for both countries. These industries will manufacture something here and then export it through Gwadar or Karachi port, this arrangement will save at least 15 days of transportation to these ports for its final destination along with transportation costs and risks. Manufacturers will get cheap labour and tax relaxations/ incentives and still be able to transfer their profits back home. Not only this, even Alibaba can provide locally manufactured goods to local market within reduced time and cost. Similarly goods for local consumption will also be cheap and profits can be transferred back home. Finally once the rail/ road infrastructure will come up, countries who are at the moment opposing this project will come in and find their share. Case in example can be Ms Wells statement followed by statements by Chinese ambassador and Asad Umar and at the end Ms Wells states that US is sending 15 business delegations next year.
Valid. Now think why the company would go to Pakistan instead of going to India from where it can get all the same benefits and more and also enjoy a 1.3 billion market for its products.
 
Valid. Now think why the company would go to Pakistan instead of going to India from where it can get all the same benefits and more and also enjoy a 1.3 billion market for its products.
I believe we are discussing it with reference to CEPEC.
 
The point still remains valid.
India is not interested in road and belt initiative then why would Chinese be interested in India. Yes if India India is interested in it then its another story or there are some other trade agreements between China and India.
 

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