Chinese PLA intensive drill along the Indian border over 5000M above the sea level

[rambro]

Given the indian ceremony, rafael is not combat ready....are u scared?

 

[IblinI]

The Turkish experience shows the drones are key to winning in the mountain warfare....

From HALE to MALE, you name it.

 

[khansaheeb]

The French saw this :-

Je Suis Charlie and gave the Indians the Rafales:-

 

[Beast]

Other than live drills what has PLA has got to show the Chinese cowards? You have hit a stalemate in Ladakh

Yes,Chinese are coward. Then Indian with 20 soldiers hammer to death by Chinese with no reported fatalities, must be worst than cowards. Maybe they are turtle hiding inside their shell?

 

[arjunk]

Why Indian army never drills? over confidence or lack of funds? Most Indian weapons are foreign so it should take average Indian soldiers more time to get familiar with them.

They tried once in 1984, this was the result:

Every year on 17 August, the death anniversary of Shuhda-e-Bahawalpur is observed as an historic day with due solemnity and resolve to continue working towards the lofty goal of national aspirations for which General Ziaul Haq Shaheed and his associates worked so selflessly.


The decade under General Zia was the period of nation building and consolidation in complete accord with the national aspirations. Ever since his departure, the country has been sadly drifting to nothingness. An honest soul searching will prove my point.
the weak and confused policies of the successive regimes have marred the rising nation and emerging entity. Unfortunately all the governments have failed to take full cognizance of the conspiratorial aspect of the national crime to unearth the real powers and executors of this national disaster.

Voluminous books are required to describe the wise and virtuous leadership that General Zia embodied to steer the country clear of all odds and evils it was faced with. Here I will confine myself to one aspect – only of statesmanship that offered a great challenge to our national existence.

Rajiv Gandhi, Indian Prime Minister, was convinced at his heart that Pakistan was fully behind and responsible for Sikhs’ rising in revolt and consequent killing of his mother Indira Gandhi. Blinded by his Hindu myth, he chose to teach Pakistan a lesson. He ordered an all-out mobilisation of his forces and complete deployment of Indian forces with threatening posture.

In this connection, Mr Behra Manan, Advisor to Mr Rajiv Gandhi, wrote that India had deployed whole of its Army on the Borders.


Indian forces were waiting for orders from their Prime Minister. President Ziaul Haq arrived on a trip to India. Rajiv was disinclined to personally welcome him but was left with no choice and had to go to the airport. In an unwelcome gesture he extended his hand for a handshake and asked me to accompany President Zia to witness the cricket match. Zia was so strong-nerved that I noticed that despite such unpleasantries, there was a visible smile on his face.

Bidding departure from Rajiv, he said, “Mr. Rajiv you want to invade Pakistan? Ok fine go ahead! But please remember one thing that after that people will forget Changez Khan and Hilaku Khan and will remember Zia and Rajiv Gandhi only. Because it will not be a Conventional War. Pakistan may possibly suffer annihilation but Muslims will still survive because there are several Muslim countries in the world. But remember there is only one India and I shall wipe out Hinduism and Hindu religion from the face of the earth! And if you don’t order complete de-escalation and demobilisation before my return to Pakistan, the first word of mouth I will utter will be “Fire”!”

Bahra Manan further writes that. Rajiv Gandhi started sweating at the forehead, and I was feeling sensation over my spine.

At this moment, Zia looked to me as the most dangerous person of the world. He appeared stone-faced and his words sounded horror. Looking in his eyes, I was conveyed clearly that he will turn the whole of sub continent into ashes with nuclear strikes. “I was shuddering and shivering,” he wrote.

Instantly the smile returned to Zia’s face and he warmly shook hands with the rest of the people there. Except for me and Rajiv, no one knows as to what the soft looking and smiling Zia had conveyed to the Indian prime minister.

With tails in their legs, the Indian Forces started pulling back. Combining the essentials of leadership, statesmanship, generalship and employing strategy and tactics, Zia thwarted most dangerous moments in Indo-Pak history.

Zia threatened Rajiv with nukes on trip to India

MNA Every year on 17 August, the death anniversary of Shuhda-e-Bahawalpur is observed as an historic day with due solemnity and resolve to continue working towards the lofty goal of national...

www.thenews.com.pk

 

[Beast]

Chinese are not just coming off as cowards. Covid19 pandemic is highlighting how sneaky, immoral, lowly cowards Chinese character really is.

@waz

Please take action against this non related and off topic comment. I am sure he need a warning too.
Thank you!

 

[Chhatrapati]

They tried once in 1984

You mean when we took control of the Siachin Glacier. It was a nice exercise.

 

[hembo]

This topic is now more stale than yesterday's soap opera....

 

[Figaro]

Chinese are not just coming off as cowards. Covid19 pandemic is highlighting how sneaky, immoral, lowly cowards Chinese character really is.

It doesn't matter if Chinese actions are brave or cowardly, as long as India is weakened, that is all that matters .

 

[Ali_Baba]

Why Indian army never drills? over confidence or lack of funds? Most Indian weapons are foreign so it should take average Indian soldiers more time to get familiar with them.

China has mostly liked fired more missiles and ammunition than the entire war fightning stock of India. That is the difference between the two, and why the dhoti's of the saffron brigade has come from orange to brown..

The depth that China has, India cannot match. That is why they surrendered recently.

 

[arjunk]

You mean when we took control of the Siachin Glacier. It was a nice exercise.

Ah yes, occupying an un-claimed, empty piece of ice = fall of Islamabad.
A real exercise is annexing 86,000sq km like we did in 1947. Oh wait, they teach you that that never happened.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

World is interested in knowing what India has stacked up on its side, apart from few raphaael and some rented Tibetan refugees? Btw, what international law say of host nations using refugees as canon fodders against their own original country?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Ah yes, occupying an un-claimed, empty piece of ice = fall of Islamabad.
A real exercise is annexing 86,000sq km like we did in 1947. Oh wait, they teach you that that never happened.

Yeah, except your military don't feel that way. Given IA sits on saltoro ridge overlooking your Karakoram Highway, GB.
You annexed from a tiny landlocked Kingdom, not from India. As soon as IA arrived, you were pushed back.

 

[arjunk]

Yeah, except your military don't feel that way. Given IA sits on saltoro ridge overlooking your Karakoram Highway, GB.
You annexed from a tiny landlocked Kingdom, not from India. As soon as IA arrived, you were pushed back.

Initial tribal invasion against state forces:

Indian regular military gets involved:

Now look at the date on the next one, where Pakistanis have reached as far as Aksai Chin and Leh:

 

[Chhatrapati]

Indian regular military gets involved:

Accession was signed on October 27, and we just started to airlift troops because it was winter.

Now look at the date on the next one, where Pakistanis have reached as far as Aksai Chin and Leh:

Then the generous Pakistan Army returned to GB leaving Kashmir valley, Ladakh? Rest of the map please.

As far as India is concerned, India did not have any territory in the Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir till October 26 of 1947. Hari Singh was a crook, he really wanted to be a country like Nepal where he can play both India and Pakistan as leverage. Unfortunately, or fortunately, Pakistan didn't see it that way, and thanks to that we have a strategic region.