Chinese Navy (PLAN) News & Discussions

[LKJ86]

The question is, are those YJ-62 placed inside Type 052C VLS? No, isn't it?

Of course the YJ-62 are not placed in the VLS. But does it matter???

 

[Brainsucker]

Of course the YJ-62 are not placed in the VLS. But does it matter???

Actually it is. You have to maneuver your ship to shoot YJ-62 from 052C, but you can just shoot as many as AShM via the VLS system from 052D, without even move or positioned your ship first.

 

[LKJ86]

Actually it is. You have to maneuver your ship to shoot YJ-62 from 052C, but you can just shoot as many as AShM via the VLS system from 052D, without even move or positioned your ship first.

There is no doubt that 052D is better than 052C. But 052C still meets the requirement of area air defense.

PLAN still has the 051B, 052 and 052B destroyers.

 

[Brainsucker]

There is no doubt that 052D is better than 052C. But 052C still meets the requirement of area air defense.

PLAN still has the 051B, 052 and 052B destroyers.

But it will be better if they upgrade the 052C to 052D standard.

It doesn't mean that HQ-9 is bad, but it is only 1 layer of air defense. That's why 052D has more than 1 type of Anti Air Missile. With HQ-9, HQ-16, and HHQ-10. Not to mention the CIWS. It's 4 layers of Air Defense.

If you say that 052C is a capable ship, yes. But to say that it can meet the requirement of today Destroyer Standard, I doubt it.

 

[LKJ86]

But it will be better if they upgrade the 052C to 052D standard.

It doesn't mean that HQ-9 is bad, but it is only 1 layer of air defense. That's why 052D has more than 1 type of Anti Air Missile. With HQ-9, HQ-16, and HHQ-10. Not to mention the CIWS. It's 4 layers of Air Defense.

Why not just go for more 055/052D or their updated versions?

052C will be upgraded, but hard to reach the 052D standard.

If you say that 052C is a capable ship, yes. But to say that it can meet the requirement of today Destroyer Standard, I doubt it.

What is today Destroyer Standard?

I think that only the right is the best. PLAN can't requst that all destroyers are 055.

 

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PLAN Frigate fires main gun in East China Sea
Editor：Huang Panyue Time：2018-05-17

Editor：Huang Panyue Time：2018-05-17

The guided-missile frigate Yiwu (Hull 518) attached to a frigate flotilla with the navy under the PLA Eastern Theater Command fires its close-in weapons system at simulated sea targets during a 4-day maritime training exercise in waters of the East China Sea from May 12 to 15, 2018. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Wang Guiwei, Su Zhihong and Liu Min)


Editor：Huang Panyue Time：2018-05-17

Sailors ride in a rigid-hull inflatable boat to conduct small boat operations as the guided-missile frigates Yiwu (Hull 518) and Ezhou (Hull 513) steam in formation during a 4-day maritime training exercise in waters of the East China Sea from May 12 to 15, 2018. They are attached to a frigate flotilla with the navy under the PLA Eastern Theater Command. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Wang Guiwei, Su Zhihong and Liu Min)

 

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5.21

 

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054A

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570 black pennant number.. .......

 

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But it will be better if they upgrade the 052C to 052D standard.

It doesn't mean that HQ-9 is bad, but it is only 1 layer of air defense. That's why 052D has more than 1 type of Anti Air Missile. With HQ-9, HQ-16, and HHQ-10. Not to mention the CIWS. It's 4 layers of Air Defense.

If you say that 052C is a capable ship, yes. But to say that it can meet the requirement of today Destroyer Standard, I doubt it.

052D does not have HQ-16 so far and very likely will never be```a new type of quarter-packed ESSM will be 052D and 055's second layer air defense missile`````the new Chinese ESSM will have its classic engagement range of 50Km, with 3M plus speed and 30KM maximum effective altitude```

and normally, for air defense ship, there are only two layers of air defenses (soft and hard)! not the "layers" depends on missile's range````in a classic situation when a ship has to provide air defense sheild to a task fleet, it usually uses its electronic warfare kits to jeopardize enemy's battle theatre awareness and data communication among platform, weapon carriers and weapons````but when enemy's weapon carrier has successfully launched its weapons on us, that basically means that the first layer of defense sheild was effectively overran, so the heavy burden will therefore passed on to the second layer of hard defense machnism````

052C's air defense capability might not meet PLAN or USAN's requirment to be top-end air-defense destroyer``however, it is still world class. As America's AEGIS + SM and China's “海之星”+HHQ -9 are the two best air-defense systems in the world````

in 2013, a 052C alone, without any system support, had successfully intercepted 5 targets at speed of 3M plus, 10m above the sea level, simutaneously``````in theory 052C can launch all of its 48 HHQ-9 missiles at one go! (in 90s, USAN did something similar tests with over 100 various targets at very short period of time, but with a tast fleet````so, their AEGIS lives up to its fame)

compared to 052C, 052D is more like a multi-task destoyer than a sole air defense platform, eventhough its “海之星” and HHQ-9B is better than its predecessor``

 

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Fire 64 units of H9b at one go. Wow!

 

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