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HQ-17 SAM

 

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[Nahid]

HQ-17 SAM
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you gyes copied tor too.............

 

[Ultima Thule]

you gyes copied tor too.............

With lots of indigenous improvements @Nahid

 

[samsara]

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What's this? HQ-16A/B or else ?

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This one is HQ-16A/B Air Defense missiles from the PLA Army.

 

[cirr]

New HQ-17A

for medium wheeled combined brigade

 

[Kompromat]

Nice

New HQ-17A

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for medium wheeled combined brigade

 

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[Path-Finder]

New HQ-17A

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for medium wheeled combined brigade

Is this upgraded or better than Tor??

 

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Difference between China's HQ-17 and Russian Tor missile. They look similar but are not the same. HQ-17 is improved Chinese variants based on earlier imported TOR-M1, and has slightly longer range.

HQ-17 (China Variant)
The HQ-17 (Hongqi-17) is China's reported variant of the Tor-M1 system.

In 1996, China ordered 14 Tor-M1 missile systems from Russia which were delivered under contract in 1997. In 1999, another contract for 13 Tor-M1 systems was signed between Russia and China. Delivery of the systems took place in 2000.

The HQ-17 is a Chinese development of the Tor-M1 system with multiple improvements. Unlike the Tor system, the HQ-17 incorporates an IFF array on top of an electronically scanned array radar, modernized electronics, a new all-terrain launcher, and the ability to datalink with other Chinese systems.

FM-2000 is a mobile short-range air-defence (SHORAD) system unveiled by China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation at the 2018 Zhuhai Airshow. Its range is 15 km and engagement altitude is 10 km. It is carried on a 3 axle TEL. It is a version of the HQ-17

 

[samsara]

My article about the HQ-17 series.

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/V_ane8QXaZSSC_ZrO-eISg

HQ-17A, A New-Generation Wheeled Field Air Defense Missile System

Original: 星海坊主 星海坊 (2019-05-13)

In 1991, precision guided weapons were widely used in the Gulf War and achieved fruitful results. The technical difficulties of air defense weapons have changed from "anti-ultra-low altitude aircraft" in the 1960s and 1970s to precision guided weapons with small cross-section (RCS / Radar Cross-Section), high overload, wide range of velocity and dive angle. In order to meet the needs of air defense in the new era, senior army officers believe that the army should be equipped with an air defense weapon system with anti-precision guidance capability, rapid mobility and certain armor protection to accompany field forces.

Based on this background, China began to import М1 (9К331) from Russia in the mid-1990s. But the "9958 incident" soon made it clear to China that if we want to base ourselves on the world, we can not do without an independent and sound defense industry system. Therefore, the development of a series of domestic equipment has been put on the agenda. Among them, the Second Academy of Aerospace, the main contractor of China's air defense missiles, has been commissioned to start the development of the field air defense missile weapon system of the army in the third generation of missile air defense missiles.

Yu Benshui 于本水 was the chief designer of Hongqi-7 series second generation missile air defense missile weapon system. According to the naming rules of air defense missiles, the model is named HQ-17 (Hong Qi 红旗 or Red Flag). After the team led by Yu Benshui has identified several key technologies for the development of HQ-17 through the research of relevant models, and on the basis of the HQ-7 series, which has the ability of rapid response and interception of ultra-low altitude targets, the vehicle-borne equipment has been further integrated and miniaturized, and the functions of search, launch and guidance have been integrated, thus completing the design of the first "vehicle integrated" air defense missile system in China.

In 2002, Chen Guoxin took over as the chief of HQ-17, while Yu Benshui, an academician in his late 70s, took a back seat. Later, Xue Lin, who had studied under Yu Benshui, took over the task of developing the HQ-17. Along the way, the HQ-17 team broke through the technologies of vertical launching, fast turning, composite guidance design, single-chamber dual-thrust solid rocket engine, and so on, finally ensured the successful delivery of the HQ-17, which has been highly praised. From the delivery of the HQ-17 in transport, it can be seen that it is superior to the prototype of the liquid-air suspension chassis.

“The HQ-17 anti-aircraft missile array and the PGZ-09 self-propelled anti-aircraft artillery finalized in 2009 constitute the division and brigade-level air defense combat units, and then with the HQ-16A finalized in 2010 and deployed in the group army level, the new generation of air defense system of the PLA Army is completely independent. In December 2013, the HQ-17 anti-aircraft missile weapon system won the First Prize of the National Science and Technology Progress Award; in December 2014, the HQ-17 missile development won the First Prize of the National Defense Science and Technology Progress Award. Although the HQ-17 was not included in the previous parade, it did participate in the parade for the 90th Anniversary of the Founding of the Army in 2017.”

In the table, the row means: (1) Target [km-away, km-high] / (2) Single Stage Thrust / (3) Double-Stage Thrust / (4) Double-Pulse Thrust

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This is an incomplete translation work, for the rest of article along with several more pictures, please refer to the article link at below:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/V_ane8QXaZSSC_ZrO-eISg


How those sacrifices of the Third World countries like Iraq/Saddam Hussein had taught the Chinese the very good lessons to better arm themselves... there are several key brute smacking scenes upon several regions spanned over the last 2-3 decades that served as very good awakening lessons for China indeed! Something that I never thought of when I was still young, back then witnessed the savage smacking scenes one by one, which among other made famous the Ted Turner's original version of CNN and its well-known field hot-zone reporter, Peter Arnett (the era before the Pentagon's later creation of the EMBEDDED war reportage for regulated firing coverage).

Peter Arnett with Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, 1997