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Chinese J-20 stealth fighter not cause for concern, Rafale too has stealth features: Air Marshal
Indian government is also seized of the importance of acquiring fighter aircraft with stealth features and this is why the Rafale aircraft being acquired from France has some special stealth features, said Air Marshal SB Deo.

Written by Man Aman Singh Chhina | Ambala | Published:November 4, 2016 6:11 pm
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(Source: Wikimedia Commons)
Reacting to the the Chinese J-20 stealth fighter being unveiled earlier his week, the Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief Western Air Command, Air Marshal SB Deo, said that it was not a cause for concern and that Rafael aircraft being inducted by India also had stealth features. On a visit to the Ambala air base, Air Marshal Deo said that the Indian government is also seized of the importance of acquiring fighter aircraft with stealth features and this is why the Rafale aircraft being acquired from France has some special stealth features. “The radial cross section of the aircraft is significantly smaller for an aircraft of that size. There are many other features too which I would not like to disclose at this stage,” he said.

Commenting on the Chinese J-20, which bears a strong resemblance to the UA Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, the AOC-in-C said that the aircraft seemed to posses front portal stealth features and not in the rear. “It is important to maintain stealth while using your radar equipment, while opening your bomb bay doors to fire and ensuring how a weapon can quickly come out of the rails and go out. I do not know how far this aircraft is stealth,” he said.

ALSO READ: Major implications for India as China unveils first stealth fighter; Pakistan shows interest



He added that the Fifth generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) which is being jointly developed by India with Russia focuses on stealth technology. Older technologies and old radars are very effective against stealth fighters, he said adding that it will be some time before the aircraft like J-20 are operationally fielded but the IAF was prepared.

Commenting on the haphazard construction around air force station perimeters at several places in the country, Air Marshal Deo said these were a potential security risk. “The security officers of the respective stations where such construction is observed, like in Ambala and Pathankot, go to the localities and educate the residents on the precautionary measures that they ought to take,” he said. He added that with advent of time and growth of cities the localities have crept closer to air force stations but due to enhanced security risk these days like the terror attack that took place in Pathankot, extra precautions must be taken by all.

ALSO READ: China’s stealth aircraft J-20, Pakistan jets to take part in Chinese airshow

He also said that the localities abutting air force stations were also at risk in case an air accident took place. He said there had been instances even in Ambala where an aircraft has had to abort take off or drop the bombs that it was carrying on the run way itself due to less engine thrust. “This could be very dangerous if not controlled in time,” he added. Giving information about the latest Jaguar crash which took place in Ambala in September this year, he said that this happened due to a bird getting ingested into the engine of the aircraft.

Defending the accident rate of the IAF, he said that the number of aircraft which met with accidents each year has been steadily going down as systematic issues concerning accidents have been addressed. “In 1980s we were losing around one squadron of aircraft each year due to accidents. When we push the envelope we face risks but now our numbers are very good,” he said.

Air Marshal defends himself in suicide case

Air Marshal SB Deo refuted the allegations being levelled on him in social media that he had manhandled or severely rebuked a Wing Commander in Air Force Station Sirsa following which the officer committed suicide. Wing Commander RK Tiwari had shot himself after an inspection had been carried out by the AOC-in-C in which his poor shooting skills were noticed. Air Marshal Deo said there seemed to be an orchestrated campaign against him and that he had not said anything to the deceased officer nor his family members had said anything to him when he met them. He said a Court of Inquiry will ascertain the real cause behind the incident.

© The Indian Express Online Media Pvt Ltd
 
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Rafale is definitely superior to J 20

RBE2 AESA ; Spectra EW system And Meteor Missile will ensure Rafale's Superiority
for a Long time

By the Way J 20 is not going to be inducted for Five more years

And then we will get PAK FA - So No problems there for IAF
 
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rafale is a 5G ....thats way FGFA with russia is not moving..
 
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Chinese J-20 stealth fighter not cause for concern, Rafale too has stealth features: Air Marshal
Indian government is also seized of the importance of acquiring fighter aircraft with stealth features and this is why the Rafale aircraft being acquired from France has some special stealth features, said Air Marshal SB Deo.

Written by Man Aman Singh Chhina | Ambala | Published:November 4, 2016 6:11 pm
j20-759.jpg
(Source: Wikimedia Commons)
Reacting to the the Chinese J-20 stealth fighter being unveiled earlier his week, the Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief Western Air Command, Air Marshal SB Deo, said that it was not a cause for concern and that Rafael aircraft being inducted by India also had stealth features. On a visit to the Ambala air base, Air Marshal Deo said that the Indian government is also seized of the importance of acquiring fighter aircraft with stealth features and this is why the Rafale aircraft being acquired from France has some special stealth features. “The radial cross section of the aircraft is significantly smaller for an aircraft of that size. There are many other features too which I would not like to disclose at this stage,” he said.

Commenting on the Chinese J-20, which bears a strong resemblance to the UA Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor, the AOC-in-C said that the aircraft seemed to posses front portal stealth features and not in the rear. “It is important to maintain stealth while using your radar equipment, while opening your bomb bay doors to fire and ensuring how a weapon can quickly come out of the rails and go out. I do not know how far this aircraft is stealth,” he said.

ALSO READ: Major implications for India as China unveils first stealth fighter; Pakistan shows interest



He added that the Fifth generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) which is being jointly developed by India with Russia focuses on stealth technology. Older technologies and old radars are very effective against stealth fighters, he said adding that it will be some time before the aircraft like J-20 are operationally fielded but the IAF was prepared.

Commenting on the haphazard construction around air force station perimeters at several places in the country, Air Marshal Deo said these were a potential security risk. “The security officers of the respective stations where such construction is observed, like in Ambala and Pathankot, go to the localities and educate the residents on the precautionary measures that they ought to take,” he said. He added that with advent of time and growth of cities the localities have crept closer to air force stations but due to enhanced security risk these days like the terror attack that took place in Pathankot, extra precautions must be taken by all.

ALSO READ: China’s stealth aircraft J-20, Pakistan jets to take part in Chinese airshow

He also said that the localities abutting air force stations were also at risk in case an air accident took place. He said there had been instances even in Ambala where an aircraft has had to abort take off or drop the bombs that it was carrying on the run way itself due to less engine thrust. “This could be very dangerous if not controlled in time,” he added. Giving information about the latest Jaguar crash which took place in Ambala in September this year, he said that this happened due to a bird getting ingested into the engine of the aircraft.

Defending the accident rate of the IAF, he said that the number of aircraft which met with accidents each year has been steadily going down as systematic issues concerning accidents have been addressed. “In 1980s we were losing around one squadron of aircraft each year due to accidents. When we push the envelope we face risks but now our numbers are very good,” he said.

Air Marshal defends himself in suicide case

Air Marshal SB Deo refuted the allegations being levelled on him in social media that he had manhandled or severely rebuked a Wing Commander in Air Force Station Sirsa following which the officer committed suicide. Wing Commander RK Tiwari had shot himself after an inspection had been carried out by the AOC-in-C in which his poor shooting skills were noticed. Air Marshal Deo said there seemed to be an orchestrated campaign against him and that he had not said anything to the deceased officer nor his family members had said anything to him when he met them. He said a Court of Inquiry will ascertain the real cause behind the incident.

© The Indian Express Online Media Pvt Ltd
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Rafale is definitely superior to J 20

RBE2 AESA ; Spectra EW system And Meteor Missile will ensure Rafale's Superiority
for a Long time

By the Way J 20 is not going to be inducted for Five more years

And then we will get PAK FA - So No problems there for IAF
but what if the j20 spots the rafale before being spotted which is very likely and then a sd10d would put it to sleep. the whole point of a stealth aircraft is to see the enemy before you've been seen and take care of the target or track them. the spectra system is a defensive aid and the reports suggest india has not taken up on the spectra. please show some report which hold value which prove otherwise.

the pak fa is a long way away your looking easy 2025 ish, by that time the j20 would be in huge numbers easily 100+.
the meteor is a beast of a missile no doubt but when fielded against stealth air-frames which can see you before you can see them, this is a significant threat and would be suicidal to think of engaging.

how long would it take for india's rafales to achieve ioc?
 
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Rafale is definitely superior to J 20

RBE2 AESA ; Spectra EW system And Meteor Missile will ensure Rafale's Superiority
for a Long time

By the Way J 20 is not going to be inducted for Five more years

And then we will get PAK FA - So No problems there for IAF

:rofl:

Denial mode at its best. Like how some Indian who still brag GSLV Mk 3 is going to have more heavy payload than CZ-5 rocket.

J-20 is going to induct end of this year. J-20 can carry BVRAAM and WVR missiles in internal weapon which significantly reduce drag when flying and reduce RCS signature when going into combat. Unless Rafale carries only 30mm bullets in clean mode trying to take on J-20 :rofl:
 
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but what if the j20 spots the rafale before being spotted which is very likely and then a sd10d would put it to sleep. the whole point of a stealth aircraft is to see the enemy before you've been seen and take care of the target or track them. the spectra system is a defensive aid and the reports suggest india has not taken up on the spectra. please show some report which hold value which prove otherwise.

the pak fa is a long way away your looking easy 2025 ish, by that time the j20 would be in huge numbers easily 100+.
the meteor is a beast of a missile no doubt but when fielded against stealth air-frames which can see you before you can see them, this is a significant threat and would be suicidal to think of engaging.

how long would it take for india's rafales to achieve ioc?
Denial mode at its best. Like how some Indian who still brag GSLV Mk 3 is going to have more heavy payload than CZ-5 rocket.

J-20 is going to induct end of this year. J-20 can carry BVRAAM and WVR missiles in internal weapon which significantly reduce drag when flying and reduce RCS signature when going into combat. Unless Rafale carries only 30mm bullets in clean mode trying to take on J-20 :rofl:

J 20 is not a threat at all ; we dont take it seriously at all

It is a work in progress ; Rafale will take care of it

China has a long way to go before it catches up with Russia and France
 
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:rofl:

Denial mode at its best. Like how some Indian who still brag GSLV Mk 3 is going to have more heavy payload than CZ-5 rocket.

J-20 is going to induct end of this year. J-20 can carry BVRAAM and WVR missiles in internal weapon which significantly reduce drag when flying and reduce RCS signature when going into combat. Unless Rafale carries only 30mm bullets in clean mode trying to take on J-20 :rofl:
why are you bringing in the cz-5?
you high?

yes the chinese dont linger around especially in terms of defense, but tell me why are you highlighting the obvious? we know it can internally hold weapons, its a basic requirement of a 5th gen fighter.
 
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