Chinese FM rejects Philippine, Japanese, U.S. claims on South China Sea issue

[Jlaw]

"The naval ships that were used by China to take back the islands were provided by the United States, our ally," he said, adding, "These facts must have been recorded in your respective archives."

Correct. Our ally the US provided us those ships. We thank them dearly.

 

[William Hung]

You depend on "other people", we dedepend on ourslevs. looool, Vietnamese didn't invite French in 19th century, Vietnam's history maybe the similar with Thailand.

Vietnam invited the French? Was that like the same way how China invited the Europeans that eventually lead to this?

As for how you only depend on yourselves, is that like how China depended entirely on itself to defeat Imperial Japan and did not “depended” on foreign countries like the US? Also what about this picture here, is this how you depended on yourself to go against the Soviet? -

Remember the wise words from our friend @mike2000 is back : Nearly everything you use against Viet Nam, it can usually be used against China.

So grow up and stop trolling because it will usually backfire on you.

 

[Jlaw]

Wang Yi is a typical liar. Repeating the same lies over and over again. Shameless. His understanding of history and nation sovereinty are virtually non existent. He assumes other people are dumb and cannot see Chinese actions on the ground speak against his words in public. But he is typical for most chinese. Speak one thing while do another thing.

Really? But you guys use Chinese text to show "Vietnam" history

 

[Place Of Space]

Vietnam invited the French? Was that like the same way how China invited the Europeans that eventually lead to this?

As for how you only depend on yourselves, is that like how China depended entirely on itself to defeat Imperial Japan and did not “depended” on foreign countries like the US? Also what about this picture here, is this how you depended on yourself to go against the Soviet? -

Remember the wise words from our friend @mike2000 is back : Nearly everything you use against Viet Nam, it can usually be used against China.

So grow up and stop trolling because it will usually backfire on you.

lol, these old fotos are cute. My great ancestors fought with the main powers, we still could continued the sub-health development. Check how many countries collapsed when only faced up to one of those powers. And we right now rise, recover quickly.
You still try to depend on "other people". Try to use your own words, own experience, own values to discuss with me. Which part of these fotos could speak for you?

Vietnam invited the French? Was that like the same way how China invited the Europeans that eventually lead to this?

As for how you only depend on yourselves, is that like how China depended entirely on itself to defeat Imperial Japan and did not “depended” on foreign countries like the US? Also what about this picture here, is this how you depended on yourself to go against the Soviet? -

Remember the wise words from our friend @mike2000 is back : Nearly everything you use against Viet Nam, it can usually be used against China.

So grow up and stop trolling because it will usually backfire on you.

About the last foto, I remeber I reply some Vietnamese months ago. China and USA needs each other in the cold war, actually the cooperative field is in Vietnam-USSR ally issue.

If you want to read some special meaning of such kind foto, I also have one:

 

[William Hung]

lol, these old fotos are cute. My great ancestors fought with the main powers, we still could continued the sub-health development. Check how many countries collapsed when only faced up to one of those powers. And we right now rise, recover quickly.
You still try to depend on "other people". Try to use your own words, own experience, own values to discuss with me. Which part of these fotos could speak for you?

I dont even understand what you are trying to say here. My previous post was clear, China once got screwed by European powers, just like how Vietnam was once screwed like what you said. You said Vietnam depended on others....but China too depended on others to fight against the Imperial Japanese Army and used the US’s support to go against the Soviet. Read the first page of this thread again, even your fellow Chinese OP said China once had the support of the US.

About the last foto, I remeber I reply some Vietnamese months ago. China and USA needs each other in the cold war, actually the cooperative field is in Vietnam-USSR ally issue.

lol well there you go, you’ve just contradicted yourself and that was my main point. You said China only depended on herself but now you have admitted that China once needed the US to go against Vietnam-Soviet alliance.

 

[Oldman1]

US should stop in trying to destabilize the region with the use of the dumb Philippines, Japanese and Vietnamese leaders.

Perhaps China should stop being stupid antagonizing everybody in East Asia.

 

[Place Of Space]

I dont even understand what you are trying to say here. My previous post was clear, China once got screwed by European powers, just like how Vietnam was once screwed like what you said. You said Vietnam depended on others....but China too depended on others to fight against the Imperial Japanese Army and used the US’s support to go against the Soviet. Read the first page of this thread again, even your fellow Chinese OP said China once had the support of the US.



lol well there you go, you’ve just contradicted yourself and that was my main point. You said China only depended on herself but now you have admitted that China once needed the US to go against Vietnam-Soviet alliance.

You don't understand what I try to say. I would like to explain more details. China once got screwed by European powers, Chinese still could decide our own fate, had chance to reform if the govt want to do, in 1900's, Qing dynasty tried to accept constitutional monarchy. Or later the republic revolution, it's all lead by ourselves. In Vietnam, the French decided which Vietnamese could be king, all policy was issued by French....It seems you like to take WWII as example, it's China fought with Japan, China govt and people fought against. In Vietnam, did Vietnamese have rights to fight against Japanese? France surrender means Vietnam surrendered, you even don't have chance/right to declare war.

I said China and USA needs each other in the cold war, I didn't say China needed US to go against Vietnam-Soviet alliance. China's field was in Vietnam, and US's field was in Afghanistan and Africa, but both targeted at USSR. Perhaps, Vietnam didn't allied with USSR and invaded neighbors, Vietnam would have been free of the conflict. So called winning the Vietnam war gave Vietnamese leaders lot of erroneous judgement. They never thought why Vietnam could resist and win in the Vietnam War.

 

[Beast]

I can only say "Not yet".

And the mutual understanding between VN and Phil is that for us to have proper talk, we must first push China out of the negotiation table. In offical newspapers, VN still claims some islands are occupied illegally by Phil.


Are you trying to compare this

to this?

I don't know what about Phil, but VN only build basic buildings to support infantry presence on islands. Some islands do not even have habors or airstrip and people have to use small canoe to move in. Those with airfields and habors are large island with non-military personel and such structures are nescessary. And there is no evidence of we actually expand the island, only preventation of corrosion of land.

China turned underwatered islands into airfields and harbors, with guns, missles and bunkers. Even workers who work there are military personel, and buildings are purely for military uses. Sure you say "they are for civilian use too. For rescuse effort, tourism and research." Yeah, then why the military put so much money and effort on that, using tax and hardware on those islands, so that non-military personels can come and use the structures? Military is not a charity organization, especially not a non-profit one.

Too bad, your lies are busted. WHat a load or rubbish about expanding just for soil erosion. The problem is vietnam is poor and backward that is why they cannot afford expensive trenching machine and many expensive equipment to fasten the land expansion program. Vietnam is the first to do the island expansion program in spratly island. When China saw what the vietnamese doing. They are enraged and decide for tit for tat to teach vietnamese a lesson not to mess around with China. The US media obvious ignore vietnamese action and decide to highlight only Chinese one to shown their bias and favourism.
I hear too much lies from vietnamese forumer trying to misled reader and villain acting as victim.

Images reveal Vietnam′s expansion in the South China Sea | Asia | DW.COM | 15.05.2015

 

[sweetgrape]

I can only say "Not yet".

And the mutual understanding between VN and Phil is that for us to have proper talk, we must first push China out of the negotiation table. In offical newspapers, VN still claims some islands are occupied illegally by Phil.


Are you trying to compare this

to this?

I don't know what about Phil, but VN only build basic buildings to support infantry presence on islands. Some islands do not even have habors or airstrip and people have to use small canoe to move in. Those with airfields and habors are large island with non-military personel and such structures are nescessary. And there is no evidence of we actually expand the island, only preventation of corrosion of land.

There are essential difference between Stealing one dollar and stealing one thousand dollars?

Not you don't want, but you can't, you don't have that capability to make such hugh project, ok, don't seems how innocent you are, you are not innocent, but you are impotent.

And before China start the massive construction in spratly, Vietnam and Phillippine have started it, and built the runway, don't cry, China will be more "aggressive" while you are draging USA and other power in SCS.

lol well there you go, you’ve just contradicted yourself and that was my main point. You said China only depended on herself but now you have admitted that China once needed the US to go against Vietnam-Soviet alliance.

Depending on and Using is contradictory? I don't find he contradict hiself, I just think you don't understand. you fighting enemy with you gun, not depend on it, but use it, ok!

Perhaps China should stop being stupid antagonizing everybody in East Asia.

Hehe, mind to list "everybody"? don't miss someone,

 

[Place Of Space]

Can you tell me how many times is China bigger than Vietnam? There is a little difference between brave and dumb. Sure, we invite the external powers when there were internal fightings and conflicts with a great power. With all negative consequences. Including the one you mentioned, the french.

Also, if China fully supported Vietnam in the first Vietnam-France war, we would have probably won the war. And don't forget, the french would never have the chance to use Vietnam as the springboard for the invasion of China.

I know this post / sentence can represent a lot of Vietnamese emotion. It says once biten by snake, he is afaid of snake-like rope for ten years. Rebuilding confidence is a long period.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Vietnam invited the French? Was that like the same way how China invited the Europeans that eventually lead to this?

As for how you only depend on yourselves, is that like how China depended entirely on itself to defeat Imperial Japan and did not “depended” on foreign countries like the US? Also what about this picture here, is this how you depended on yourself to go against the Soviet? -

Remember the wise words from our friend @mike2000 is back : Nearly everything you use against Viet Nam, it can usually be used against China.

So grow up and stop trolling because it will usually backfire on you.

Yes both of you are quite similar in many fields. Reason its hard for a chinese to criticise vietnam without it applying to china as well to some extent. Thats what you get when the big brother tries to always put down the little brother as it can backfire as well since they are both related. .

 

[Keel]

Vietnam invited the French? Was that like the same way how China invited the Europeans that eventually lead to this?

As for how you only depend on yourselves, is that like how China depended entirely on itself to defeat Imperial Japan and did not “depended” on foreign countries like the US? Also what about this picture here, is this how you depended on yourself to go against the Soviet? -

Remember the wise words from our friend @mike2000 is back : Nearly everything you use against Viet Nam, it can usually be used against China.

So grow up and stop trolling because it will usually backfire on you.

that is a cheap shot
Deng was rising from his seat when Carter extended his hand for shaking
That photo has been used by the vietcongs all over the internet when they need an orgasm

 

[Aepsilons]

Yes both of you are quite similar in many fields. Reason its hard for a chinese to criticise vietnam without it applying to china as well to some extent. Thats what you get when the big brother tries to always put down the little brother as it can backfire as well since they are both related. .

Ain't that the truth?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Yes both of you are quite similar in many fields. Reason its hard for a chinese to criticise vietnam without it applying to china as well to some extent. Thats what you get when the big brother tries to always put down the little brother as it can backfire as well since they are both related. .

Chinese are east Asians with ancestry in northern China and yellow river, speak sino Tibetan language, and have a long tradition of literature, science, engineering, art and architecture.

Vietnamese don't even speak sino Tibetan but Austronesian language, and the word science didn't even exist for them until the 19th century.

if you look at the global values survey China is closest to Korea and eastern Europe while Vietnam is closer to India and Thailand.

 

[Aepsilons]

Interesting, Japan is so close to Germany, and the Protestant work culture ethic.