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Chinese fleet drives Japanese boats away from Diaoyu Islands

And how? You think Japan will defeat the PLA in a war? Or the U.S.?

Japan is completely inferior to China militarily now. The U.S. are cowards who owe China debt and the last thing they'll do now is start a war with us.

You should start filtering what you think and what you post.

why do you think it will be war or thru fighting? you are doing it to yourself..

really? well China was suppose to be finished 10 years ago, and 3 years ago and 2 and 1 and now too.

But I'll get my timer since @priti said so, it must be true.

This is like those mad cult leaders predicting the apocalypse. Now they get smart and just say it'll happen and not when.

But at least according to you it's pushed to 20 instead of 10 so we are making progress.
when i mean finished dont take it literal sense like you east asians always do. pollution, communism, one child policy rising inequality will take its toll.
problem with communism is this.. if you get good leders you are lucky , if not you are gone..
eg mao did some crazy things for 30+ and chinese could do nothing about it. they got lucky with deng for last 30 + years who go economic prosperity. what will you do if some crazy party chief does something like Mao again?
if it happens in india or US, he can be thrown out.
 
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why do you think it will be war or thru fighting? you are doing it to yourself..


when i mean finished dont take it literal sense like you east asians always do. pollution, communism, one child policy rising inequality will take its toll.
problem with communism is this.. if you get good leders you are lucky , if not you are gone..
eg mao did some crazy things for 30+ and chinese could do nothing about it. they got lucky with deng for last 30 + years who go economic prosperity. what will you do if some crazy party chief does something like Mao again?
if it happens in india or US, he can be thrown out.

Chinese system has undergone changes since Mao. For the clueless fool they will think the CPC is the same but to the informed you will realise the system has changed. There are more checks and balances within the CPC and leaders are chosen on merit from past performances. Each politburo member has served atleast 15 years governing a Chinese province so that they have proven their competence. Only the people that have done a good job will they get promoted. It's a merits based system.
After Mao died the transition was very violent so Deng moulded this merits based system where each member has to serve a long time as the leader of a province and other community activities to be eligible to be selected. That's how the communist party keeps up its standard. Go look at each of the 25 members of the politburo and 7 members of the politburo standing committee. They have all served as governors of various Chinese provinces over a long period of time and done a very good job thus they get promoted to lead China.

But saying this to an Indian is clueless since you vote for a party because they are from a famous family.
 
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why do you think it will be war or thru fighting? you are doing it to yourself..


when i mean finished dont take it literal sense like you east asians always do. pollution, communism, one child policy rising inequality will take its toll.
problem with communism is this.. if you get good leders you are lucky , if not you are gone..
eg mao did some crazy things for 30+ and chinese could do nothing about it. they got lucky with deng for last 30 + years who go economic prosperity. what will you do if some crazy party chief does something like Mao again?
if it happens in india or US, he can be thrown out.

Yea, cause east Asians are the poor and uneducated asians right.

Any developing nation has pollution this included US and Britain in the past. But don't worry, China will soon be moving factories to India and the rest of poorer Asia, so the pollution will go with it.

Communism is all but dead, no Chinese is a true communist, except maybe some idiot in the mountains.

The one child policy is not a problem, all China needs to do is to move to a skilled work force that requires less people. It will stagnate the Chinese economy, but by then it will be big enough to be a superpower anyways.

As to rising inequality, the interior will be developed now that the coastal areas are doing good, and with Russian and the former soviet block's energy, the interior's living standard will rise.

As a side note, rising inequality happens everywhere, it's only a real problem if the bottom can't feed themselves and have no shelter, and basic needs not met. This isn't the case with most of China and soon won't be the case at all.

I know China doesn't do general election, but they also don't pick a name out of a box. The leader must be able to balance all side's interests to even have a chance to be the president.

Besides at this point Xi Jinping's power is severely limited, any one person cannot dictate state affairs. Xi is a civilian president, which means all he is to the army is its commander not its master. He is not the revolutionary leader Mao is and thus not as much influence.

Today's China is not dictatorship in the traditional sense, the state nor party belongs to Xi, he is merely it's figurehead. It is not possible to achieve dominance like Mao or Stalin or even Putin with 10 year terms that can't be extended and certainly not possible with the way the Chinese people are. They are no longer poor back watered uneducated can't feed themselves rubes that they once were.

The fact that you think it is possible for China to have a president that can have enough power to alter the current course of China is absurd. It just shows you how little you know of politics and dictatorship, or China.
 
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Keep deluding yourself with inferiority Indians and Americans. You were spanked by PLA in 1962 and 1950 and can't do anything but cry as China spanks Japan too.
 
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Chinese system has undergone changes since Mao. For the clueless fool they will think the CPC is the same but to the informed you will realise the system has changed. There are more checks and balances within the CPC and leaders are chosen on merit from past performances. Each politburo member has served atleast 15 years governing a Chinese province so that they have proven their competence. Only the people that have done a good job will they get promoted. It's a merits based system.
After Mao died the transition was very violent so Deng moulded this merits based system where each member has to serve a long time as the leader of a province and other community activities to be eligible to be selected. That's how the communist party keeps up its standard. Go look at each of the 25 members of the politburo and 7 members of the politburo standing committee. They have all served as governors of various Chinese provinces over a long period of time and done a very good job thus they get promoted to lead China.

But saying this to an Indian is clueless since you vote for a party because they are from a famous family.

what happened to that Bo guy who was a high performer? big bosses didnt like him so slapped murde and corruption charges and packed him and his police chief off. so when threatened the cpc can do anything in a dictatorial manner.
btw, if you see corruption im sure china is as bad as my country and everyone top down has his hands dirty. is that a fair statement?

Yea, cause east Asians are the poor and uneducated asians right.

Any developing nation has pollution this included US and Britain in the past. But don't worry, China will soon be moving factories to India and the rest of poorer Asia, so the pollution will go with it.

Communism is all but dead, no Chinese is a true communist, except maybe some idiot in the mountains.

The one child policy is not a problem, all China needs to do is to move to a skilled work force that requires less people. It will stagnate the Chinese economy, but by then it will be big enough to be a superpower anyways.

As to rising inequality, the interior will be developed now that the coastal areas are doing good, and with Russian and the former soviet block's energy, the interior's living standard will rise.

As a side note, rising inequality happens everywhere, it's only a real problem if the bottom can't feed themselves and have no shelter, and basic needs not met. This isn't the case with most of China and soon won't be the case at all.

I know China doesn't do general election, but they also don't pick a name out of a box. The leader must be able to balance all side's interests to even have a chance to be the president.

Besides at this point Xi Jinping's power is severely limited, any one person cannot dictate state affairs. Xi is a civilian president, which means all he is to the army is its commander not its master. He is not the revolutionary leader Mao is and thus not as much influence.

Today's China is not dictatorship in the traditional sense, the state nor party belongs to Xi, he is merely it's figurehead. It is not possible to achieve dominance like Mao or Stalin or even Putin with 10 year terms that can't be extended and certainly not possible with the way the Chinese people are. They are no longer poor back watered uneducated can't feed themselves rubes that they once were.

The fact that you think it is possible for China to have a president that can have enough power to alter the current course of China is absurd. It just shows you how little you know of politics and dictatorship, or China.

current leadership is a bunch of princelings.. not unlike the gandhi family isnt it?
 
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what happened to that Bo guy who was a high performer? big bosses didnt like him so slapped murde and corruption charges and packed him and his police chief off. so when threatened the cpc can do anything in a dictatorial manner.
btw, if you see corruption im sure china is as bad as my country and everyone top down has his hands dirty. is that a fair statement?



current leadership is a bunch of princelings.. not unlike the gandhi family isnt it?

Completely fair statement that corruption is about as bad as India, however, while being corrupt, they still manage to get the job done, you won't dispute this would you?

As for Bo, he was definitely corrupt and he probably did murder. He was effective yes, but the charges against him are not less true because of it. Would the Indian government allow this kind of a man to run for office?

As to the Gandhi statement, they are similar but not entirely. Since China is not election, it's not enough to just be born into the family, you also needs talent. You need accomplishments, you can't just be Xi, you need to show the other members and the people you have done things. What has rahul gandhi or Sonia done?

If we were to compare Xi's accomplishments before taking office and any of the Gandhi family members exclude Nehru, he would still look good.

He also graduated from the top Chinese university Tsinghua University, can your Gandhi family say the same with an indian university?

Xi and most of the rest were also sent to rural villages to be prosecuted in their youth, to my understanding it was hell on earth, which didn't happen to the Gandhis did it? Does the Gandhi family know what hunger is?
 
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Bo was corrupt and didn't make it to the standing committee. He was exposed and punished. This is why China gets things done despite our corruption. India is far more corrupt and hardly gets anything done.
 
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Bo was corrupt and didn't make it to the standing committee. He was exposed and punished. This is why China gets things done despite our corruption. India is far more corrupt and hardly gets anything done.

are all the others free of corruption. do you believe that
 
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are all the others free of corruption. do you believe that

It's impossible to find every corrupt official but the CPC is improving itself slowly. Although after allowing western infiltration of the Chinese education system, I think the CPC might be the most corrupt in the world. Even worse than India.
 
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Yea, cause east Asians are the poor and uneducated asians right.

Any developing nation has pollution this included US and Britain in the past. But don't worry, China will soon be moving factories to India and the rest of poorer Asia, so the pollution will go with it.

Communism is all but dead, no Chinese is a true communist, except maybe some idiot in the mountains.

The one child policy is not a problem, all China needs to do is to move to a skilled work force that requires less people. It will stagnate the Chinese economy, but by then it will be big enough to be a superpower anyways.

As to rising inequality, the interior will be developed now that the coastal areas are doing good, and with Russian and the former soviet block's energy, the interior's living standard will rise.

As a side note, rising inequality happens everywhere, it's only a real problem if the bottom can't feed themselves and have no shelter, and basic needs not met. This isn't the case with most of China and soon won't be the case at all.

I know China doesn't do general election, but they also don't pick a name out of a box. The leader must be able to balance all side's interests to even have a chance to be the president.

Besides at this point Xi Jinping's power is severely limited, any one person cannot dictate state affairs. Xi is a civilian president, which means all he is to the army is its commander not its master. He is not the revolutionary leader Mao is and thus not as much influence.

Today's China is not dictatorship in the traditional sense, the state nor party belongs to Xi, he is merely it's figurehead. It is not possible to achieve dominance like Mao or Stalin or even Putin with 10 year terms that can't be extended and certainly not possible with the way the Chinese people are. They are no longer poor back watered uneducated can't feed themselves rubes that they once were.

The fact that you think it is possible for China to have a president that can have enough power to alter the current course of China is absurd. It just shows you how little you know of politics and dictatorship, or China.

Communism is not dead. Communism, like all economic systems, will undergo change, adaption and optimization over a period of time. Ultimately, the Chinese's goal has always been building a better nation, rather than achieving a specific political ideology.

The pure central planning system is good for the first twenty years because the country simply doesn't have much stuff. By strictly controlling the distribution system, the government ensures that the minimum need of the people is met. However, as the country becomes better established, there are much more things to manage. Central planning simply doesn't have the processing capacity to micro-manage all the little details. This is where the private sector comes in. They are here to take care the things the central government just don't have the time to manage, so the central government can focus on the important stuff. For example, nowadays, the central government mainly focus on energy, military, public infrastructure, and education. These sectors are either too vital for the national security or require too much investment to be handled by the private sector.

Too many people are focusing on the wealth distribution part of communism. Just like people are single minded focused on profit for capitalism and social welfare for socialism. This is likely because these are the most physically tangible aspect of the system for ordinary people. However, at the core, these economic system is something else entirely. For example, capitalism, at the core, is about survival of the fittest. Capitalism argues that the better economy system is the one that can best survive the intense competition; therefore, competition should be encouraged at all times. Socialism, however, argues that competition in some sectors does more harm than good. The government should be entrusted to take care these sectors. Communism, being a subbranch of socialism, take this one step farther and argue that the best economy system is the one that centrally organized so everything can cooperate together like a precise mechanism.
So for China, while some of the concepts from communism is found to be not suitable, a lot of others are instead found immensely useful. For example, China's core stock market is strictly regulated to minimize the risk of financial crisis. This proves to be extremely useful since both 97 and 08 financial crisis barely have any direct impact on the Chinese economy. (Most of the impacts felt by China are secondary, such as export reduction due to declining economy of trade partners.)
So in summary, no, communism is hardly dead. It just evolved to better suit China's need.
A small note at the end, the economy reforms performed by Deng near the end of 70s did not come from thin air. China spent more than a decade making related preparations. For example, Mao's intra-party report in 1962 mentioned that consumer goods production and trading are vital parts of the economy and should be encouraged. Towards the end of 60s, the Chinese industrial base has developed to a level that global competition becomes possible. The improvement in China-US relationship during 70s paved the way for farther connection between China and western market. So by the time Deng was in charge, China already made the preparations and the reforms were just the next logical step. While there was definitely some shift in priority during those times, overall it was hardly unexpected.
 
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