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Chinese Flanker Family: J-11, J-16 ... Su-27SK/UBK, Su-30MKK

Pakistan need J-16 ASAP.
Not possible, because design is Russian Intellectual property (Su-27/Su-30 series of jets)
 
Not possible, because design is Russian Intellectual property (Su-27/Su-30 series of jets)

J-16 is slightly different than J-11 and SU-27 and it can be further customize for Pakistan. Didn’t China sell hundreds of J-7 variants which were copy of Russian MiG-21?
 
J-16 is slightly different than J-11 and SU-27 and it can be further customize for Pakistan. Didn’t China sell hundreds of J-7 variants which were copy of Russian MiG-21?
Oh bhai this happened when China had have Sino-Russian split, and Russians gets smart afterwards, on the very first deal of su-27 with China Russians put a clause that they are not able to export any su-27 and its copies to 3rd party,and by the way as for your information J-16 is based on Russian Su-30MKK/2
 
Oh bhai this happened when China had have Sino-Russian split, and Russians gets smart afterwards, on the very first deal of su-27 with China Russians put a clause that they are not able to export any su-27 and its copies to 3rd party,and by the way as for your information J-16 is based on Russian Su-30MKK/2
Well Maybe if we Pay Russians some money for it maybe they will. In this way we can get J 16s and Russians will not invite Anger from Indians
 
Well Maybe if we Pay Russians some money for it maybe they will. In this way we can get J 16s and Russians will not invite Anger from Russians


Oh well, maybe beter to cone to reality and as such simply forget these wet-dreams, China won't sell the Flankers in the same way it won't sell J-20s and even more the PAF cannot afford them.
 
Oh well, maybe beter to cone to reality and as such simply forget these wet-dreams, China won't sell the Flankers in the same way it won't sell J-20s and even more the PAF cannot afford them.
But why Flankers? They are not 5th gen
 
But why Flankers? They are not 5th gen

Since the contract with Russia explicitly forbid this.
 
Do you think PLA would use YJ-83K all the time?

Surely not, but as I stated, I thought - and still think as long as we haven't seen a YJ-12 under a J-16 - this one is too large and heavy. Therefore I won't be surprised if it ix another new type of ASM.
 
this one is too large and heavy
What are its weight and size?
 
What are its weight and size?


I have no data at hand, but comparisons with those on the H-6L my quess is, it is loo large and heavy - larger and heavier than a Brahmos - to fit two under a Flanker's wing.
Even between the engines would be a surprise IMO.
 
I have no data at hand, but comparisons with those on the H-6L my quess is, it is loo large and heavy - larger and heavier than a Brahmos - to fit two under a Flanker's wing.
Even between the engines would be a surprise IMO.
Now, I understand that why you are always surprised.:-)
 
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@LKJ86 What's the difference between J-11, J-15 and J-16???
 

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