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[Developereo]

Now i m seriously confused the identity of these three guys lol

I am not saying anything about any specific poster. I am just making a general observation.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Given that India is actively engaged in hostilities against Pakistan on the diplomatic, propaganda and covert operations front, peace is elusive for the moment.

Both India and Pakistan are aligned against each other at the moment... I don't expect that to last forever. Who is benefiting from it?

Did it occur to you that maybe India is not the starry-eyed innocent being 'used' by the West? That maybe India and the West's interests coincide when it comes to containing China?

Of course that is something I have thought about, and I still think about it.

However the world hegemon at the moment is the USA, they are the ones with the "need" and the "ability" to weaken us. Their best weapon to contain us is India.

Why should we help them to contain us?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Now i m seriously confused the identity of these three guys lol

You have 13 posts, stick around a bit longer and find out.

One question... challenger supports the Japanese invasion of China in WW2, and says that Japan was only trying to "liberate" China.

Do you agree with that?

Challenger says that Han people are not Chinese, and that we are "Chinese Kommunist Dogs".

Do you agree with that?

 

[Developereo]

Both India and Pakistan are aligned against each other at the moment... I don't expect that to last forever. Who is benefiting from it?

India and Pakistan are not children who can be manipulated by the evil West. India and Pakistan are at conflict because they want to be at conflict; nobody is forcing them to be at each others' throats. Other countries may benefit from the conflict by selling weapons, etc. but, at the end of the day, it is India and Pakistan themselves who decide whether to make peace or war.

Why should we help them to contain us?

Because India will remain China's enemy whether you work with them or against them. The West is a continent away and can be dealt with later, but Asia is not big enough for two superpowers. If China wants to be a global superpower, it cannot possibly do so if it can't even establish hegemony within Asia.

 

[CardSharp]

Because India will remain China's enemy whether you work with them or against them. The West is a continent away and can be dealt with later, but Asia is not big enough for two superpowers. If China wants to be a global superpower, it cannot possibly do so if it can't even establish hegemony within Asia.

Thanks for telling China what China's policies are. We'd be lost without 9/11 conspiracy theorists coming up with global strategy for us.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Because India will remain China's enemy whether you work with them or against them. The West is a continent away and can be dealt with later, but Asia is not big enough for two superpowers. If China wants to be a global superpower, it cannot possibly do so if it can't even establish hegemony within Asia.

I don't think there should be an alliance with India, but an active conflict with them will just hurt our own economic growth and limit our geopolitical reach.

IF India and Pakistan can never be allies, then China will have to keep up the same balancing act of appeasing our ally Pakistan, and trading with India in economic terms. I wish it was not so complicated... but any and all peace efforts are being shut down by militants.

If China wants to be a global superpower, it cannot possibly do so if it can't even establish hegemony within Asia.

The CCP does not actually seek hegemony. How could we even do that?

As Deng Xiaoping said: "Keep a cool head and maintain a low profile. Never take the lead - but aim to do something big."

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Here is an article from the official state media. The People's Daily is the official mouthpiece of the CCP.

'Dragon,' 'elephant' cooperation most rational choice - People's Daily Online

The modern Chinese government is pragmatic, they will do what creates the most benefit. Like I said, peaceful co-existence, while maintaining economic development, is the main priority.

 

[Developereo]

Thanks for telling China what China's policies are.

I am sure the Chinese government has foreign policy experts who are smarter than all of us combined on this forum, and who are doing the right thing for China's long term future. And I am equally sure they would not have ignored the 800 pound gorilla or, in this case, elephant, in the room.

9/11

It is right to be skeptical about the event given officially confirmed facts such as:
- the attacks just happened to coincide with a simulated-hijacking exercise at the nearby air force base.
- the USAF took 90 minutes to respond to a direct request from the Secret Service for aircraft cover over Washington, DC after two airliners had already crashed into the Towers.

I don't think there should be an alliance with India, but an active conflict with them will just hurt our own economic growth and limit our geopolitical reach.

I am not suggesting there will be an armed conflict. There are many ways to engage your enemy, and the non-military ones are often the most successful in the long run.

IF India and Pakistan can never be allies, then China will have to keep up the same balancing act of appeasing our ally Pakistan, and trading with India in economic terms. I wish it was not so complicated... but any and all peace efforts are being shut down by militants.

The Indian propaganda ministry couldn't have said it better themselves....

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I am not suggesting there will be an armed conflict. There are many ways to engage your enemy, and the non-military ones are often the most successful in the long run.

The Indian propaganda ministry couldn't have said it better themselves....

I'm sorry, but what are you suggesting that the CCP should be doing? What "method of engagement" are you talking about?

Also you're saying that India is China's enemy, whereas our Premier Wen Jiabao says otherwise:

China, India not opponents but partners: Chinese Premier - People's Daily Online

 

[Developereo]

What "method of engagement" are you talking about?

Strategic encirclement (string of pearls), diplomatic and propaganda campaigns, indirect support for troublemakers within the country.

Basically, everything India is doing to Pakistan, short of direct military attack.

Also you're saying that India is China's enemy, whereas our Premier Wen Jiabao says otherwise:

China, India not opponents but partners: Chinese Premier - People's Daily Online

Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggie' until you can find a big stick. Also, why would China or India make threatening noises against the other and be perceived as the aggressor?

Much better to keep saying 'nice doggie' and covertly do to each other what I listed above.

It is in China's interersts to appease India so it can focus on the West. It is in India's interests to reduce China's power so it can catch up and be in a better position to challenge it for regional hegemony.

On the subject of hegemony, all countries want hegemony, whether they say it or not. The fact is that it is a dog-eat-dog world out there, especially with regards to resource contention, and no country can afford to sit idly by while its competitors snatch up precious resources. You either fight to survive, or you die.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Strategic encirclement (string of pearls), diplomatic and propaganda campaigns, indirect support for troublemakers within the country.

The first two are done, and the third one is not possible. The political fallout is not worth it.

 

[CardSharp]

I am sure the Chinese government has foreign policy experts who are smarter than all of us combined on this forum, and who are doing the right thing for China's long term future. And I am equally sure they would not have ignored the 800 pound gorilla or, in this case, elephant, in the room.

Again you assume you know what China's India policy is.

It is right to be skeptical about the event given officially confirmed facts such as:
- the attacks just happened to coincide with a simulated-hijacking exercise at the nearby air force base.
- the USAF took 90 minutes to respond to a direct request from the Secret Service for aircraft cover over Washington, DC after two airliners had already crashed into the Towers.

The 9/11 conspiracy theory are annoying but they have been good for one thing. It is a dead accurate litmus test for whether a person has the ability to thinking critically and intelligently. If they believe these theories, well... I might still respect that person (like my boxing coach) but I'll probably take any intellectual contribution they make a with grain of salt.

Side with Challenger if you want, but do realize you are alienating the rest of us.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Side with Challenger if you want, but do realize you are alienating the rest of us.

Challenger supported Japan's invasion of China in WW2... which led to the murder of 20 million innocent Chinese civilians. He also worships the Japanese war criminals who were responsible for the deaths of our brothers and sisters, and calls us "Chinese Kommunist Dogs".

I don't think Developereo will side with challenger.

 

[CardSharp]

Challenger supported Japan's invasion of China in WW2... and thus the murder of 20 million innocent Chinese civilians. He also worships the Japanese war criminals who were responsible for the deaths of our brothers and sisters.

I don't think Developereo will side with challenger.

No I think he is. He's very interested in ratcheting the animosity between China and India because he is afraid that without this tension, Pakistan will be at risk. I am not saying that his concerns aren't real but I resent his attempts at manipulating my opinions. (like what people say on defence.pk matters to policy)

The fact of the matter is China isn't worried about India. It's just not. India has neither the strength in leadership or the capability of harming China.

 

[ChinaRocks]

No I think he is. He's very interested in ratcheting the animosity between China and India because he is afraid that without this tension, Pakistan will be at risk. I am not saying that his concerns aren't real but I resent his attempts at manipulating my opinions. (like what people say on defence.pk matters to policy)

The fact of the matter is China isn't worried about India. It's just not. India has neither the strength in leadership or the capability of harming China.

Chinese dragon and cardsharp if you two are so desperate for friendship with india i suggest you two go to india forum. you two behaviors is annoying many chinese members and begining to offend some of our true friend the pakistani members here, please have the courtacy to behave respectfully as a guest in this forum.