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I never claimed India is 'terrible'. India is doing what it should -- pursuing its national interests. It just so happens, judging by events, that India's national interests see it aligning itself more with China's enemies in the West than with China itself.

(One-off deviances like climate change don't count).

China may see itself in the context of a grand showdown between Asia and the West, but India clearly doesn't see it that way.

no, it's not asia vs. the west, many asian countries have already been bought/conquered such as SK and japan, and many others to our south are trying to find the right price. we all know india's interests are aligned with the west right now. our difference is in how we solve this problem.

i'm proposing solving it at the root. in a school fight, the stupid gangs always beat up the small gangsters, foolishly thinking they can set an example of them, but the boss doesn't ever care about the small gangsters, and they'll eventually be trapped, surrounded, and beat up. the smart gangs will directly beat up the enemy gang boss, knowing that if the gang boss goes down he'll order his little brothers to calm down.

you are proposing to beat up a small time gangster the boss doesn't care about. so let me ask, why won't hte boss just hire a new gangster to replace him? beat the new one up? he'll hire 3 more and they'll beat you up. this is why i sigh every time people say conquer south korea, yes they're annoying, but you can't occupy them and with japanese/american help they'll be back in 10 years, so why bother, directly kill it at the source and the little brothers won't dare squeek.
 
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A 5 years old following this thread would know who you meant. You're now lying to yourself if you don't think you mean me dragon and crossbow.


Intrigue this...

Leave It Sir, He thinks Chinese Have to be always Anti India and Support them in what ever they talk, If You just Slip away from that law, then Your Integrity is up on the Notice Board for Sure... So Just relax...
 
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My point was about any Chinese posters who are over-the-top pro-India without knowing their identities. I hate to disappoint your ego, but I really don't keep track of your, or anyone else's posts, to form an opinion whether they fall into that group

You may know the general tone of your posts, but I certainly don't have the time or desire to do so.

So you still want the job of policing our opinions? I am 100% right about you. I'll be sure to think of you when I make my "over the top pro-india" remarks and laugh.


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Hey I am a senior here and I have 2000 posts, don't you think that I know better than you what goes and what doesn't? You've not been here for long so I'll forgive your ignorance but anyone whose been here for a while knows that the majority of arguments I've had are with Indian members.

Has nothing to do with you as it was addressed to Chinarocks. No one asked you to do anything.
 
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The only Chinese member who agrees with you is "challenger", and he is not even really Chinese.

I'll ask you again... "challenger" supports the Japanese invasion of China in WW2, and says that Japan was only trying to "liberate" China.

Do you agree with that?

I havenot seen the post where you acused him of supporting the japanese invasion of china in ww2 so no comment for me there, but i do agreed with some of his posts here.
As for your last statement my answer is i m chinese so go figure that out if i m agreed to that or not.
 
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I havenot seen the post where you acused him of supporting the japanese invasion of china in ww2 so no comment for me there, but i do agreed with some of his posts here.
As for your last statement my answer is i m chinese so go figure that out if i m agreed to that or not.

Here are his views on "Japanese" liberators


As Winston Churchill said history is written by the victors. Now, Chinese people have been brainwashed by the whites/Americans/Anglo Saxons to see the Japanese people as aggressors during the world war 2. History would have been different for the Chinese people, if Japan had not been defeated by the Anglo Saxons of US.

Japanese did not invade China, rather they tried to liberate China from Anglo Saxon military occupation. Japan actually wanted to liberate the whole of Asia from Anglo Saxon colonization. Indian leader Subhas Chandra Bose sought the Japanese help for a reason. In fact, Japan had been helping indians to overthrow the British Anglo Saxon colonial rule for a long time. With the Japanese help, Rashbehari Bose had formed the Indian National Army which later became Ajad Hind force under Subhas' command.

Rash Behari Bose - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Japan's effort to liberate Asia came from its Pan Asianism sentiment.

Pan-Asianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unfortunately some Asians made a historical blunder by siding with the Anglo Saxons and fighting against their Japanese brothers. China's Anglo Saxon puppet regime KMT during that time cooperated with the Anglo Saxons of America in their fight against the Japanese. Today, Republic of Korea is cooperating the Anglo Saxons in their fight against the Chinese. Ironical!

You need to know that it was because of the Japanese, Anglo Saxons who literally were colonial masters of China of that time fled away. I don't think, Japanese troops would do any atrocities whatsoever had Chinese people stopped supporting the Anglo Saxons.

Japan sacrificed itself for the cause of Asia and Asians. Japan's defeat was Asia's defeat.

Today, China wants an Asia free from Anglo Saxon influences, but see now the Anglo Saxons are using other Asians to contain China. In the past, China was used by the Anglo Saxons against Japan, today Japan is being used by them against China.


On Japanese responsible for killing Chinese citizens

The Chinese puppet regime was responsible for their deaths. Today, if South Koreans and Vietnamese participate in any war against China as Anglo Saxon allies and if PLA kill the invaders, should China be hold responsible for their deaths?

I rally a bunch of dogs against you and ask them to attack you, you will be forced to shoot them for self protection... who will be responsible for their deaths? You or me?

Try to see things from Japan's perspective. It was surrounded by Anglo Saxon colonies and satellite states during that time. Japan had no other option than to go for war. Japan's energy line had been cut off by America which forced Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Same way, today China's energy supply line will be cut off, and it will force China to do something military. Anglo Saxons are playing their old game. Divide and rule.

Divide your enemies and rally them against each other. Victory is yours.

Anglo Saxons spread anti Hitler and anti Japan propaganda to serve their own interests. Why should Chinese listen to their propaganda?
 
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no, it's not asia vs. the west,

Fair enough. It's China v/s the West (or maybe just the US). Is that what you are saying?

you are proposing to beat up a small time gangster the boss doesn't care about.

I am not saying you should beat up the little gangster but also don't be fooled when he says he is your buddy. You know exactly what his ulterior motives are.

So you still want the job of policing our opinions?

Nobody is policing anything.
It is an open forum. People can post and others can read and respond. It is you who wants to restrict what people can and cannot post for fear of being 'manipulated'.

I'll be sure to think of you when I make my "over the top pro-india" remarks and laugh.

If the remarks are justified, then more power to you. Otherwise you will only dilute your own credibility. Either way, you are entitled to your opinions.
 
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Fair enough. It's China v/s the West (or maybe just the US). Is that what you are saying?



I am not saying you should beat up the little gangster but also don't be fooled when he says he is your buddy. You know exactly what his ulterior motives are.



Nobody is policing anything.
It is an open forum. People can post and others can read and respond. It is you who wants to restrict what people can and cannot post for fear of being 'manipulated'.



It is relevant to your claim of being 'targetted' as a pro-India apologist. Once again, it is an open forum and all posts are open for all to comment/critisize.

Yeah open forum but your dishonesty disgust me so I'll take advantage of the ignore function.
 
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I havenot seen the post where you acused him of supporting the japanese invasion of china in ww2 so no comment for me there, but i do agreed with some of his posts here.
As for your last statement my answer is i m chinese so go figure that out if i m agreed to that or not.

Here you go:

Japanese did not invade China, rather they tried to liberate China from Anglo Saxon military occupation.

Shame on you, for supporting a Japanese war crimes apologist like challenger.
 
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Fair enough. It's China v/s the West (or maybe just the US). Is that what you are saying?



I am not saying you should beat up the little gangster but also don't be fooled when he says he is your buddy. You know exactly what his ulterior motives are.



Nobody is policing anything.
It is an open forum. People can post and others can read and respond. It is you who wants to restrict what people can and cannot post for fear of being 'manipulated'.



If the remarks are justified, then more power to you. Otherwise you will only dilute your own credibility. Either way, you are entitled to your opinions.

1.) we are not against them, they are against us. if the west stops their aggressive moves to contain, destabilize and eventually conquer china, we will no longer have problems with them. 人不犯我,我不犯人,人若犯我,我必犯人! - 毛泽东

2.) we have never been fooled. no one has ever said that india was a friend, and no indians regard us as their friends. do you realize that even members of rival drug gangs usually just pass each other on the street without incident?
 
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1.) we are not against them, they are against us. if the west stops their aggressive moves to contain, destabilize and eventually conquer china, we will no longer have problems with them. 人不犯我,我不犯人,人若犯我,我必犯人! - 毛泽东

2.) we have never been fooled. no one has ever said that india was a friend, and no indians regard us as their friends. do you realize that even members of rival drug gangs usually just pass each other on the street without incident?

Totally agree with your assessment on both issues. :cheers:
 
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Hey I am a senior here and I have 2000 posts, don't you think that I know better than you what goes and what doesn't? You've not been here for long so I'll forgive your ignorance but anyone whose been here for a while knows that the majority of arguments I've had are with Indian members.

Developero deserves whatever criticism coming his way with his conspiracy theory about 9.11 and his personal insinution about me being an internet double agents. For the record, I've never ever had an disagreement with another Pakistani member here before.

I m not here to compete for post nor do i here to get support , it just by chance i read an article on line about the china pakistan friendship and i was so fascinating by it and that bought me here to this forum. The reason i m here is because i want to know more abt pakistan and its culture nothing more nothing less.
Why you three so proud about the number of posts you got is really beyond me.
 
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I m not here to compete for post nor do i here to get support , it just by chance i read an article on line about the china pakistan friendship and i was so fascinating by it and that bought me here to this forum. The reason i m here is because i want to know more abt pakistan and its culture nothing more nothing less.
Why you three so proud about the number of posts you got is really beyond me.

Well good, because you have got absolutely NO support from any Chinese members here.

You preferred to side with a Japanese war crimes apologist. Too bad. :azn:
 
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Well good, because you have got absolutely NO support from any Chinese members here.

You preferred to side with a Japanese war crimes apologist. Too bad. :azn:

I am beginning to see a pattern here, too...

Both Chinese-Dragon and CardSharp come online at around the same time (one from Hong Kong and another from Canada).

Both are very pro-India.

Both attack any Chinese poster who asks them why they come to PDF to praise India so much.

Both have fairly good English, better than most Chinese posters. It could simply mean that they are Western-educated Chinese who happen to like India a lot, or they could be Indians specifically trained in Chinese language and culture.
 
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I am beginning to see a pattern here, too...

Both Chinese-Dragon and CardSharp come online at around the same time (one from Hong Kong and another from Canada).

Both are very pro-India.

Both attack any Chinese poster who asks them why they come to PDF to praise India so much.

Both have fairly good English, better than most Chinese posters. It could simply mean that they are Western-educated Chinese who happen to like India a lot, or they could be Indians specifically trained in Chinese language and culture.

Then ask the mods to check if me and Cardsharp have the same IP address.

Easy, don't you think. :azn:

Sock puppet accounts are clearly against the rules, so we'll find out who is right quite soon.
 
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