Chinese Employees Stealing Tech all over the world.

[BL33D]

What? Where did I say it? I only said technologies are made to spread, how can you get such a conclusion?

Oh shit i didnt see the name, i thought you are the previous guy. Please excuse me. My bad. Really sorry man.
Hahaha, you must be shocked from my reaction LMAO

 

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Yao downloaded over 3,000 electronic files containing "proprietary and trade secret information relating to the system that operates the manufacturer's locomotives."

 

[Nein]

Yea, international laws and IP laws dont work in China so that gives you the right to steal any organizations or companies work who have invested billions of dollars in it. When did i say your success in tech is only due to stolen tech. Dont fucking strawman the argument. Dont try to hide the fact the wrong you been doing by bringing all the irrelevant stuff on this topic. This shows that even you know what shitty works you do and therefore diverting the topic.
No one is even arguing that you steal and reverse engineer stuff. but that doesnt mean china isnt excellent and science and tech themselves. But it is no secret that your government does this shady stuff. The country where people are mowed with tanks doesnt need to teach us. And you mentioning 737 Max case shows what a nut job and half witted you are knowing that it was found out that the HCL team never worked on that software and all the articles later proved it. So stop peddling your agenda. No wonder HongKongers think you guys are not civilized enough to visit them. You guys love being stalked by Pooh bear. So fucking stay on the topic and tell me how you dont steal tech.

So?? Who gives a shit stealing technology is the norm.

Everybody does it not just China. Everybody copies and tries to edge out the competition.

Dont act like the USA did not steal or copy. By the way stealing other nations scientists is also stealing too.

 

[Maxpane]

just a propaganda to curtail china

 

[Yankee-stani]

So?? Who gives a shit stealing technology is the norm.

Everybody does it not just China. Everybody copies and tries to edge out the competition.

Dont act like the USA did not steal or copy. By the way stealing other nations scientists is also stealing too.

Go to Silicon Valley or any tech company or start ups in the States all East and South Asians cheap labor stuff Hispanics do that America needs to fix its education system from Elementary to High School cause its lagging Higher Ed is still pretty good here

 

[gambit]

Science and technology are made to spread and exchange, US has less than 300 years history, where do you think their technology came from?

There is a huge difference between companies working together -- GM/Toyota and Ford/Mazda -- versus individuals working and stealing information. Collaboration is expected and even encouraged, but even inside joint ventures, all sides are expected to respects proprietary knowledge.

 

[Dubious]

Chinese software engineer accused of stealing US train maker’s secrets
Insider threats are a common problem for companies now increasingly reliant on computers and electronic systems, with the risk of intellectual property theft a constant worry.

For one locomotive manufacturer in Chicago, a software engineer handed the keys to the kingdom became the ultimate example of how much data can be stolen by a single individual -- and where it may end up.
According to newly unsealed federal indictment charges revealed by the US Department of Justice (DoJ) on Thursday, Xudong "William" Yao is currently in hiding after allegedly stealing a vast array of information belonging to his former employer.

The unnamed locomotive manufacturer hired Yao in 2014. US prosecutors say that within two weeks of starting his new job, Yao downloaded over 3,000 electronic files containing "proprietary and trade secret information relating to the system that operates the manufacturer's locomotives."

This was not the end of the matter. Over the course of the next six months, the software engineer allegedly continued to download and steal more files containing corporate and intellectual property.

Notably, this included nine complete copies of the company's control system source code and the technical blueprints which described how the source code worked in depth.

While Yao pilfered the US company's trade secrets, the engineer also reportedly accepted a job with a business in China that specializes in automotive telematics.

In February 2015, Yao was fired for reasons which were not related to theft by the US locomotive firm. In July 2015, following his dismissal, Yao made copies of the stolen data, traveled to China, and began working for his new employer. The engineer then traveled to Chicago with the stolen intellectual property in his possession before once again returning to China.

Since his last known movements, the engineer has not been traced, but US law enforcement believes Yao is on the run in the country. A federal warrant was issued in 2017 but the engineer is yet to be apprehended.

Yao is charged with nine counts of theft of trade secrets. If found and convicted, the software engineer faces up to 10 years in prison.



Earlier this month, a 64-year-old electrical engineer was found guilty of conspiring to smuggle military-grade semiconductor chips to China. The engineer and co-conspirators posed as customers to gain access to custom processors, and the physical products were then shipped to a Chinese company. The processors are used by clients including the US Air Force and DARPA.

Former Tesla employee admits uploading Autopilot source code to his iCloud
Guangzhi Cao, a former engineer at Tesla, admitted in a court filing this weekthat he uploaded zip files containing Autopilot source code to his personal iCloud account in late 2018 while still working for the company. Tesla sued Cao earlier this year for allegedly stealing trade secrets related to Autopilot and bringing them to Chinese EV startup Xiaopeng Motors, also known as Xmotors or XPeng, which is backed by tech giant Alibaba.

Cao denied stealing sensitive information from the automaker in the same filing. His legal team argued he “made extensive efforts to delete and/or remove any such Tesla files prior to his separation from Tesla.” Cao is now the “head of perception” at XPeng, where he is “[d]eveloping and delivering autonomous driving technologies for production cars,” according to his LinkedIn profile.

a joint filing from the two parties that was also filed this week, Tesla has subpoenaed documents from Apple. While Apple is not involved in this case, a former employee who worked on the tech company’s secretive autonomous car project was charged by the FBI with stealing trade secrets last July.

That employee allegedly Air Dropped sensitive data to his wife’s laptop and was also caught on CCTV leaving Apple’s campus with a box of equipment. He had left his job at Apple to take a position at XPeng before being arrested. Cao was also a senior image scientist for Apple for two years before he joined Tesla, according to his LinkedIn profile.

The suit comes at a time when the US is locked in a trade war with China and has accused the nation and some of its biggest companies of committing so-called “economic espionage.” Tesla, Apple, XPeng, and a lawyer for Cao did not respond to requests for comment.

In a statement to The Verge earlier this year, XPeng said it opened an internal investigation into Tesla’s allegations, and that it “fully respects any third-party’s intellectual property rights and confidential information.” XPeng said it “by no means caused or attempted to cause Mr. Cao to misappropriate trade secrets, confidential and proprietary information of Tesla, whether such allegations by Tesla being true or not,” and said it “was not aware of any alleged misconduct by Mr. Cao.”

Tesla filed its suit against Cao this past March. The former employee was one of around 40 people with direct access to the source code for Autopilot, which is Tesla’s advanced driver assistance system. The company claimed Cao began uploading “complete copies of Tesla’s Autopilot-related source code” to his personal iCloud account late last year. Cao zipped and moved more than 300,000 files and directories related to Autopilot, according to the complaint.

CAO WAS ONE OF AROUND 40 EMPLOYEES WITH DIRECT ACCESS TO AUTOPILOT SOURCE CODE



UCLA PROFESSOR STOLE MISSILE SECRETS FOR CHINA, FACES 219 YEARS IN PRISON
A California-based electrical engineer has been found guilty of attempting to export sensitive military electronics to China and could face more than two centuries behind bars.

Yi-Chi Shih, 64—a part-time professor at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)—was convicted on 18 federal charges last week, linked to a plot to illegally obtain microchips from an American company and export them to China, where they could be used in a range of military systems including missiles and fighter jets.

The Department of Justice announced Tuesday that Shih faces a faces a statutory maximum sentence of 219 years in prison. A co-defendant—Kiet Ahn Mai of Pasadena, California—had already pleaded guilty to smuggling charges linked to the plan in December.

Shih posed as a customer to acquire the hardware—so-called monolithic microwave integrated circuits (MMICs)—from an unnamed U.S. company.

The MMICs were then shipped to Chinese company called Chengdu GaStone Technology (CGTC), where Shih had previously served as president. The firm was in the process of building its own MMICs factory, the DOJ press release said.

Such technology cannot be exported without Commerce Department authorization, which Shih did not have. MMICs are sensitive because of their use in a range of commercial and military applications, including missiles, missile guidance systems, fighter jets, radar and electronic warfare.

The company targeted by Shih and Mai is a supplier for the Air Force, Navy and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), among others.

Furthermore, CGTC has been on the Commerce Department's "Entity List" since 2014, marking it as a national security threat and requiring official authorization before any American technology can be sold to the company. The DOJ noted that the company had been "involved in the illicit procurement of commodities and items for unauthorized military end use in China."

The six-week trial found Shih guilty of conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, mail fraud, wire fraud, false tax returns, false statements to a government agency and conspiracy to commit cybertheft, the DOJ press release explained. A date for sentencing has not yet been set.

U.S. Attorney Nick Hanna said Shih "schemed to export to China semiconductors with military and civilian uses, then he lied about it to federal authorities and failed to report income generated by the scheme on his tax returns."

"My office will enforce laws that protect our nation's intellectual property from being used to benefit foreign adversaries who may compromise our national security," Hanna added

Please provide the source for each article. Thank you!

 

[gambit]

Here is one source for that train article...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...accused-of-stealing-u-s-train-maker-s-secrets

Xudong “William” Yao, 57, was accused in an indictment of nine counts of trade secrets theft and is believed to be living in China, prosecutors said in a statement Thursday. Yao, who was born in China but was a naturalized U.S. citizen, allegedly stole copies of more than 3,000 electronic files that contained proprietary technical information and software source code, according to the statement.

 

[DoTell]

Woow, the level of logic youre giving me is insane, so india invented 0 so should we just say all the software in the world is ours ? Come on,give a simple search and see how many such cases have been there, i admire what chinese have done in space and tech and how despite western pressure they have advanced so much and Indians do admire and look up to them and try to compete with them. But it is also true the shady stuff you guys do. If you take credit for so many things, also owe up to the blame.

India invented zero? Zero was there long before you dumbos existed. Did you “invent” the universe too? LMFAO

I’m surprised that you seemed a little upset though. I thought you had no shame. If my I were from that sh!tiest country I’d keep my mouth shut. But I give you credit, you do have some great inventions, such as the biggest sh!t mountain on earth, the rape proof underwear etc. You have utmost freedom to enjoy them

 

[gambit]

So?? Who gives a shit stealing technology is the norm.

Everyone gives plenty of shit.

By the way stealing other nations scientists is also stealing too.

No, it is not. Who abducts foreign nationals for their scientific knowledge? More like North Korea. Or are you saying China is doing it? If China is doing it, that would be no surprise at all.

http://www.portebrown.com/when-companies-share-intellectual-property-for-mutual-benefit.html

7. Determine what happens if an employee steals the IP. Unfortunately, despite a company's best efforts, employees routinely commit fraud and IP theft. The risk of an employee theft taking place is far greater when your company shares its IP with a third party because the typical "checks and balances" may not be in place to protect assets not owned by the company. In the event that theft results, is your company prepared to respond?

Does a joint venture give employees -- of any side -- some kind of permission to steal knowledge? No, it does not.

Joint ventures have agreements on what are allowed to be shared among partners and when something is shared, it is to be closely monitored. The idea is that only knowledge and technologies that are developed during the period of the joint venture are common knowledge, and those that were developed before the joint venture remains appropriate trade secrets.

Since I am in the semiconductor industry, I will use foundry fabs as example.

What is a foundry fab?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_fabrication_plant

A business that operates a semiconductor fab for the purpose of fabricating the designs of other companies,...

A foundry fab usually works for several employers at the same time, but just because the fab works for all these different companies, that does not mean somehow knowledge and technologies are allowed to be shared among these different employers. Any foundry fab employee caught passing knowledge from one employer to another, the reputation of the fab suffers, and if the violations are continuous and severe, the fab will quickly go out of business.

No different than someone selling knowledge of one company to another company. Unauthorized sharing of knowledge is IP theft.

You do not know what you are talking about.

 

[BL33D]

Please provide the source for each article. Thank you!

Please excuse me for this thread, will do for the next ones. New to forums.

Everyone gives plenty of shit.


No, it is not. Who abducts foreign nationals for their scientific knowledge? More like North Korea. Or are you saying China is doing it? If China is doing it, that would be no surprise at all.

http://www.portebrown.com/when-companies-share-intellectual-property-for-mutual-benefit.html

Does a joint venture give employees -- of any side -- some kind of permission to steal knowledge? No, it does not.

Joint ventures have agreements on what are allowed to be shared among partners and when something is shared, it is to be closely monitored. The idea is that only knowledge and technologies that are developed during the period of the joint venture are common knowledge, and those that were developed before the joint venture remains appropriate trade secrets.

Since I am in the semiconductor industry, I will use foundry fabs as example.

What is a foundry fab?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor_fabrication_plant

A foundry fab usually works for several employers at the same time, but just because the fab works for all these different companies, that does not mean somehow knowledge and technologies are allowed to be shared among these different employers. Any foundry fab employee caught passing knowledge from one employer to another, the reputation of the fab suffers, and if the violations are continuous and severe, the fab will quickly go out of business.

No different than someone selling knowledge of one company to another company. Unauthorized sharing of knowledge is IP theft.

You do not know what you are talking about.

Good summary, idk why its so hard to understand to respect proprietary knowledge and IP. People do hard work for the shit you steal. Even India doesnt have very good IP laws and we are trying to make it better. These people will justify anything in order to defend their dubious act. No is telling everything they have done is stolen which is remarkable what they have done. why cant they accept this vile side of their government ?

India invented zero? Zero was there long before you dumbos existed. Did you “invent” the universe too? LMFAO

I’m surprised that you seemed a little upset though. I thought you had no shame. If my I were from that sh!tiest country I’d keep my mouth shut. But I give you credit, you do have some great inventions, such as the biggest sh!t mountain on earth, the rape proof underwear etc. You have utmost freedom to enjoy them

https://www.livescience.com/27853-who-invented-zero.html
Though people have always understood the concept of nothing or having nothing, the concept of zero is relatively new; it fully developed in India around the fifth century A.D., perhaps a couple of centuries earlier. Before then, mathematicians struggled to perform the simplest arithmetic calculations. Today, zero — both as a symbol (or numeral) and a concept meaning the absence of any quantity — allows us to perform calculus, do complicated equations, and to have invented computers.
Educate your sorry ***.

 

[bolo]

Wow gullible Indians are having a field day! Have you ever been an engineer, a scientist? People within the same company, even on the same design team can be lost when taking over other people’s work. That’s why every decent tech company puts documentation as one of their highest priorities. But the law of nature doesn’t apply to us Chinese though. By just copy and paste, we get spaceships fly to the moon, high speed trains all over the country, 5G network “threatening national security” of the mighty U.S.

If we are the smartest thieves, you Indians must be the dumbest nut cases. With all that access to information you can’t write a little piece of software that keeps an airplane from nose diving. Heck you can’t even keep a docked submarine from bombing itself to the bottom of the ocean, or tell the difference between Jupiter and Chinese “flying saucer”.

You people like to lay sh!t everywhere, literally and figuratively. Apparently you buy all kinds of sh!t too. Must be all that drought doing it you. Have you raped anyone yet

I am very angry with the Indian company who messed up the codes that resulted in two fatal crash.

 

[Itachi]

While everyone, including the US, is known to steal tech from other countries and also sourcing scientists/technologists from other countries, no one else has done it on the scale China does.

Each year, we hear many different stories coming out of "China stole this" "China stole that".

I got nothing against China on this matter but it's childish to say that just because everyone does it so it's ok for China too. Everyone doing a crime doesn't make it not a crime, it's still a crime...and we know China excels at this matter more than others.

Either way, keep going.

 

[Yankee-stani]

While everyone, including the US, is known to steal tech from other countries and also sourcing scientists/technologists from other countries, no one else has done it on the scale China does.

Each year, we hear many different stories coming out of "China stole this" "China stole that".

I got nothing against China on this matter but it's childish to say that everyone does it so it's ok for China too. Everyone doing a crime doesn't make it not a crime, it's still a crime...and we know China excels at this matter more than others.

Either way, keep going.

Correct but America needs to reinvest in K-12 education by putting heavy emphasis on STEM and IT instead of relaying on foreigners to do tech work

 

[Itachi]

Correct but America needs to reinvest in K-12 education by putting heavy emphasis on STEM and IT instead of relaying on foreigners to do tech work

Right, I think it might be a bit too late for this. Other countries are catching up fast including China but there still might be a chance, who knows.

Correct but America needs to reinvest in K-12 education by putting heavy emphasis on STEM and IT instead of relaying on foreigners to do tech work

Thing is, trades in the US is very well paid so a lot of ppl don't think about STEM or IT.