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China demonstrated its growing naval confidence again in the latest standoff between American and Chinese ships.

The fifth such incident in two months occurred on Friday in the Yellow Sea when a US Navy surveillance ship turned its fire hoses on two Chinese fishing vessels.

A spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry said that the American ship was operating in China’s exclusive economic zone without permission and had violated Chinese and international laws. “We express our concern about this and demand the US side take effective measures to ensure a similar incident does not happen again,” he said.

The USNS Victorious, an ocean surveillance ship designed for anti-submarine warfare and underwater mapping, was conducting what the Pentagon called routine operations in the waters between China and the Korean peninsula. The Chinese vessels came within 100ft (30 metres) of the vessel.

The Pentagon, which accused five Chinese fishing vessels of harassing another US surveillance ship in the South China Sea near Hainan island in March, cited the incident as an example of unsafe Chinese seamanship.

The Chinese vessels did not withdraw until after the Victorious had sounded an alarm and a Chinese military ship, identified by the Pentagon as WAGOR 17, arrived in response to the call for assistance. It shone a light on the fishing vessels until they left.

The Pentagon earlier played down the confrontation, striking a more low-key tone than during the incident two months ago.

A spokesman for the US Defence Department suggested that the United States was looking to avoid the kind of angry exchanges that followed the March incident. He said: “We will be developing a way forward to deal with this diplomatically.”

The comments by the spokesman for the Chinese Foreign Ministry were also less strident than in March, when Beijing accused the US of distorting the truth.

Niu Jun, a professor of international relations at Peking University, said that both sides could do more to calm tensions. “The US should make its intention more transparent. But the two sides should also have talks on this issue and establish a mechanism to solve it,” he said.

It was not the first time the Victorious had encountered Chinese boats. On April 7 and April 8, Chinese-flagged fishing vessels approached the ship and the USNS Loyal as they operated within China’s 200-mile economic zone.

Chinese and American ships clash again in Yellow Sea - Times Online
 
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ppl keep saying china's threat
but most interesting
all these accident happened next to chinese territory
 
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i think it's fair
when chinese navy reach usa economy zone
then we talk about china threat:sick::sick::sick:
 
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Let's give another thought.... is it possible China deliberately using these boats disguised as fishing boat and on snipping ops.?

Or what would be the reason for fishing boat to go so close to a military vessel?

May be I'm speculating things but would like to hear from PDF members
 
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It sucks getting older, one doesn't dream as vivid...

Junks vs. Dreadnaughts all over again. :usflag:

sorry for the disappointment we don't have dreadnaughts yet compare with US
but in about 20 years time from now you will see the dreadnaughts vs Dreadnaughts battle
i hope this will cheer you up
so plz tell ur friend stop saying any more about china threat
this will help u to see ur dream as vivid sooner. :china::enjoy:
 
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The USN just don't get it, within 200 nautical miles from the shore belongs to China. And China should protect this zone at any cost.

Furthermore, China should send its navy ship 100 nautical miles from the US shore and see what kind of whining the US would make.

China could use Cuba port(s) for supplies, since they are comrades.
 
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China could use Cuba port(s) for supplies, since they are comrades.

And I could be the King of Prussia.

Illusions of grandeur eventually have to give way to reality. Our fleets have and will continue to rule these seas for the foreseeable future.
 
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And I could be the King of Prussia.

Illusions of grandeur eventually have to give way to reality. Our fleets have and will continue to rule these seas for the foreseeable future.

you are right,and we can threat to sell 20% foreign reserve making you back off,you still can go anyway you want but not way close to China,you didn't lost your right to kill innocent people around the world now, but you are losing it.we all know it"s just matter of time that the real brutal face under your "so-call culture" will show up again ,that's the reason why i think every country should own the ndh
 
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And I could be the King of Prussia.
Now you're truly delusional (i.e. you need your head to be examined).

Illusions of grandeur eventually have to give way to reality. Our fleets have and will continue to rule these seas for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, keep believing that.

You sound like you are from somewhere in Appalachian mountains.
 
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i think it's fair
when chinese navy reach usa economy zone
then we talk about china threat:sick::sick::sick:

During the cold war, soviet intelligence 'trawlers' were routinely port right outside US ports and naval bases. US didn't whine about that.
 
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Let's give another thought.... is it possible China deliberately using these boats disguised as fishing boat and on snipping ops.?

Or what would be the reason for fishing boat to go so close to a military vessel?

May be I'm speculating things but would like to hear from PDF members

reason 1: they might snag a piece of towed sonar array from behind the T-Agor
reason 2: plausible deniability (as in "it was them rogue fishing ships, not official Chinese government ships")
reason 3: it doesn't matter as much if fishing boats are damaged or sunk (i.e. a way to prevent damage to chinese government vessels )


but seriously ...

The Maritime Security Agency (MSA) is a strange organization. It is actually a composite of at least four different naval patrol forces (customs service, the naval militias, civil and military police units). This includes the marine arms of local police forces that have coastal areas in their jurisdiction, and many vessels that are basically merchant ships. This last element is quite different from Western practice. These MSA ships do their regular work most of the time. But if MSA headquarters radios them with a MSA mission, the ship takes off and follows its orders.
http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/military_photos_2004123019.aspx
 
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The USN just don't get it, within 200 nautical miles from the shore belongs to China. And China should protect this zone at any cost..
China has the rights to the exploration and exploitation of the economic resources in that zone. Other than that, it's international waters, open ocean.

Furthermore, China should send its navy ship 100 nautical miles from the US shore and see what kind of whining the US would make.
See earlier example about Soviet intelligence trawlers parked next o US main naval ports: they didn't flinch.
 
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